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Mountain Biker Rationalizes Riding Wet Trails

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  1. Of course, mountain bikers in the Northwest also ignore the wetness of the
    trails. The rationalizations never cease....

    Mike

    From: [email hidden]
    Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:58:56 EST
    Subject: [ROMP] Re: ROMP Digest, Vol 12, Issue 47

    In a message dated 3/24/2005 12:05:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Paul writes:
    Please do not ride soggy trails. I am champing at the bit to go out and ride,
    but it is still too wet. Everything will be saturated for at least a few days.

    Please use good judgement. When going out, select routes that are known to drain
    well and dry out first. Mountain bikes are tough on the trails when they are
    wet.

    Please give Fort Ord plenty of time to dry out before attempting pre-rides of
    the Sea Otter. ROMP people and the BLM have done trail work out there which
    would be damaged. Pass it along.

    All --

    Here's my evolving take on this:

    Hundreds of cows wandering through a wet meadow will appear to tear it up
    pretty bad -- until you get a few seasons under your belt, and recognize how
    quickly nature repairs those sites. Remember that the reason the trail might be
    (temporarily) ugly/muddy/sloppy/eroding is because it's a trail -- if the
    trail was not there the disturbance would not be occurring. It's the fact of
    the trail that establishes some inevitable erosion, not so much the use, or even
    the amount of use. If our beloved agencies do the best job of
    siting/designing/building the trails in the first place, we should hope that
    their work stands up to use when wet. Understand I'm not advocating riding
    officially closed trails, just speaking up for earth's resilience, and changing
    the focus a little. Michael Vandeman, please note: don't bother responding;
    life's too short...

    Bern

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    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  2. Mike, you bore me!
    You are a useless waste of space and my hope is that someday you
    realise that you have wasted away your life trolling a news group.
    I have better things to do with my time like ride my bike, spend time
    with loved ones, and socialize with friends. All these your life lacks
    and I pity you for it.

    Bye impotent troll!

    DecSim/Matt Ellis

    P.S. To all the mountain bikers on this forum, there are plenty of
    places to talk about mountain biking where Mike cannot post his drivel,
    like http://www.cyclingforums.com/, so my suggestion is to leave Mike
    to rant and rave in AMB and move on. I am.

  3. DecSim said:

    Mike, you bore me!
    ... a useless waste of space ...

    Bye impotent troll!

    DecSim/Matt Ellis


    Well, he tried the brief excursion into the dreaded radiation fields of
    wireless phones & got scalded there- not by the phones but by people who
    understand math & physics. At least trolling mountain bikers is
    something he's had lotsa mucho practice with. No luck. No substance.
    Much heat & no light.

    Pete H

    --
    A person is free only in
    the freedom of other persons.
    W. Berry

  4. DecSim said:

    P.S. To all the mountain bikers on this forum, there are plenty of
    places to talk about mountain biking where Mike cannot post his drivel,
    like http://www.cyclingforums.com/, so my suggestion is to leave Mike
    to rant and rave in AMB and move on. I am.

    To anyone that has a modicum of self-control, or
    can set up a simple filter, AMB is a freak-free zone.

    It's cross posting clueless tools like yourself
    that are more of a problem, albeit briefly until
    you're kill-filed as well.

    See ya!

  5. pmhilton said:
    DecSim said:

    Mike, you bore me!
    ... a useless waste of space ...

    Bye impotent troll!

    DecSim/Matt Ellis


    Well, he tried the brief excursion into the dreaded radiation fields of
    wireless phones & got scalded there- not by the phones but by people who
    understand math & physics. At least trolling mountain bikers is
    something he's had lotsa mucho practice with. No luck. No substance.
    Much heat & no light.


    While some sources of hot air can be harnessed to perform something
    useful, that does not seem to be the case here.

    Some people who claim expertise in a field have read more than one
    book on the topic. Especially when that book is not at all peer
    reviewed.

    Happy trails,
    Gary (net.yogi.bear)
    --
    At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

    Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
    Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

  6. On 25 Mar 2005 11:39:33 -0800, "DecSim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    ..Mike, you bore me!
    ..You are a useless waste of space and my hope is that someday you
    ..realise that you have wasted away your life trolling a news group.
    ..I have better things to do with my time like ride my bike, spend time
    ..with loved ones, and socialize with friends. All these your life lacks
    ..and I pity you for it.
    ..
    ..Bye impotent troll!
    ..
    ..DecSim/Matt Ellis
    ..
    ..P.S. To all the mountain bikers on this forum, there are plenty of
    ..places to talk about mountain biking where Mike cannot post his drivel,
    ..like http://www.cyclingforums.com/, so my suggestion is to leave Mike
    ..to rant and rave in AMB and move on. I am.

    Good idea!
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  7. Gary S. said:

    Some people who claim expertise in a field have read more than one
    book on the topic. Especially when that book is not at all peer
    reviewed.


    And for some people, the only "authority" needed is the insane [censored] they
    pick up at the checkout counter. My all-time favorite had the 3" letters
    screaming "World War II Bomber Found On Moon!" (And it was in a
    surprisingly good state of preservation, no less.)

    Pete H

    --
    A person is free only in
    the freedom of other persons.
    W. Berry

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