Mountain Bikers Put Everyone Else at Risk!

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

So now you endorse the extortion and scam of the insurance industry? The
stock market bloat of the HMO and the so-called health industry? $50
aspirins and $1,000 a night hospital beds? How about the "catch-22" of
bloated malpractice insurance driving up costs and further increasing health
insurance premiums? Insurance companies are happily raking everyone across
the money pits!
If everyone cancelled their insurance today, the industry would lose the
fat-cat profit takers and get back to concern for care and medicine.

Sure is heart-warming to know these doctors are in it for the money and not
for the concern of their patients. Waaah. A doctor pulled an all-nighter. I
am so sorry. Especially when "average" people do it all the time with 2nd
jobs just to support a family. I hope he didn't miss his tee-off the next
day!

I am no fan of "socialized medicine". Neither am I a fan of hospitals being
run merely to cover a stock market gain. Insurance premiums should not be
outside the realm of anyone's income.

It is the same principle as applied to movie ticket prices. It is better to
have 500 people and $3 apiece than 60 people at $8 apiece. Lower the
premiums so more people can pay into it and it will cost less for everyone.

BTW - The piece you posted does not mention "mountain biking". It also has
nothing to do with "wildlife". It should read "outdoor recreation vs.
insurance profits".

"Mountain Bikers Put Everyone Else at Risk!" ... where does the article
say that ?

Mike Vandeman said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Were you raped by a mountain bike in your youth?

Fact: North Shore Search and Rescue spends more time, effort, and money
retrieving lost hikers and skiers than mountain bikers.

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Roberto Baggio said:

Fact: North Shore Search and Rescue spends more time, effort, and money
retrieving lost hikers and skiers than mountain bikers.

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

Quoted message said:

Fact: North Shore Search and Rescue spends more time, effort, and money
retrieving lost hikers and skiers than mountain bikers.

Same here, one of the most popular mountain biking areas in the UK. The
local team's busiest year on record was 2005 -
http://www.keswickmrt.org.uk/rescues/2005.htm

88 rescues, all by volunteers, involving a couple of hundred victims.
Total number of mountain bikers attended to? Two. The rest were hikers.

Check out the picture taken on 22nd August.

Can't wait for heir Vandeman to refute this one. My guess is he's probably
been within 500 miles of the area.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Same here, one of the most popular mountain biking areas in the UK. The
local team's busiest year on record was 2005 -
http://www.keswickmrt.org.uk/rescues/2005.htm

88 rescues, all by volunteers, involving a couple of hundred victims.
Total number of mountain bikers attended to? Two. The rest were hikers.

Check out the picture taken on 22nd August.

Roberto Baggio said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Same here, one of the most popular mountain biking areas in the UK. The
local team's busiest year on record was 2005 -
http://www.keswickmrt.org.uk/rescues/2005.htm

88 rescues, all by volunteers, involving a couple of hundred victims.
Total number of mountain bikers attended to? Two. The rest were hikers.

Quoted message said:

Can't wait for heir Vandeman to refute this one. My guess is he's probably
been within 500 miles of the area.

The ironic thing is that the road cycling Vandeman so heartily approves
of is far more dangerous than mountain biking:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2250223,00.html - 140 cyclist
deaths on the road in the UK in 2005.

In sci.environment, [email hidden]
<[email hidden]>
wrote
on 8 Oct 2006 05:32:30 -0700
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Roberto Baggio said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Same here, one of the most popular mountain biking areas in the UK. The
local team's busiest year on record was 2005 -
http://www.keswickmrt.org.uk/rescues/2005.htm

88 rescues, all by volunteers, involving a couple of hundred victims.
Total number of mountain bikers attended to? Two. The rest were hikers.

Quoted message said:

Can't wait for heir Vandeman to refute this one. My guess is he's probably
been within 500 miles of the area.

The ironic thing is that the road cycling Vandeman so heartily approves
of is far more dangerous than mountain biking:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2250223,00.html - 140 cyclist
deaths on the road in the UK in 2005.

Compared to 30,000-40,000 deaths on US roadways. (I don't have
comparable figures for the UK motorways.)

--
#191, [email hidden]
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 14:46:24 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

So now you endorse the extortion and scam of the insurance industry? The
stock market bloat of the HMO and the so-called health industry? $50
aspirins and $1,000 a night hospital beds? How about the "catch-22" of
bloated malpractice insurance driving up costs and further increasing health
insurance premiums? Insurance companies are happily raking everyone across
the money pits!
If everyone cancelled their insurance today, the industry would lose the
fat-cat profit takers and get back to concern for care and medicine.

Sure is heart-warming to know these doctors are in it for the money and not
for the concern of their patients. Waaah. A doctor pulled an all-nighter. I
am so sorry. Especially when "average" people do it all the time with 2nd
jobs just to support a family. I hope he didn't miss his tee-off the next
day!

I am no fan of "socialized medicine". Neither am I a fan of hospitals being
run merely to cover a stock market gain. Insurance premiums should not be
outside the realm of anyone's income.

It is the same principle as applied to movie ticket prices. It is better to
have 500 people and $3 apiece than 60 people at $8 apiece. Lower the
premiums so more people can pay into it and it will cost less for everyone.

BTW - The piece you posted does not mention "mountain biking". It also has
nothing to do with "wildlife". It should read "outdoor recreation vs.
insurance profits".

Did you say something?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Dizbin said:

"Mountain Bikers Put Everyone Else at Risk!" ... where does the article
say that ?

" Worst of all, other lives are put at risk." Learn to read.

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Roberto Baggio said:

Fact: North Shore Search and Rescue spends more time, effort, and money
retrieving lost hikers and skiers than mountain bikers.

Only because there are more of them. Proportionally, more mountain
bikers need help. Hikers rarely do. I never have.

Quoted message said:

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Roberto Baggio said:

Can't wait for heir Vandeman to refute this one. My guess is he's probably
been within 500 miles of the area.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Same here, one of the most popular mountain biking areas in the UK. The
local team's busiest year on record was 2005 -
http://www.keswickmrt.org.uk/rescues/2005.htm

88 rescues, all by volunteers, involving a couple of hundred victims.
Total number of mountain bikers attended to? Two. The rest were hikers.

Only because there are far more hikers than mountain bikers.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Check out the picture taken on 22nd August.

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

... learn to read !!!

The article doesn't mention the word bike/cycle/bicycle anywhere ... ?

Which one of these involves a mountain bike:

mountain climbing, motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and
high-risk skiing.

Mike Vandeman said:

Dizbin said:

"Mountain Bikers Put Everyone Else at Risk!" ... where does the article
say that ?

" Worst of all, other lives are put at risk." Learn to read.

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

I did not know that. Care to post up a link to this fact?

Last year alone we had quite a few skiers die in the local area. We've had
hikers die. There's never been a mountain biking fatality.

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Roberto Baggio said:

Fact: North Shore Search and Rescue spends more time, effort, and money
retrieving lost hikers and skiers than mountain bikers.

Only because there are more of them. Proportionally, more mountain
bikers need help. Hikers rarely do. I never have.

Roberto Baggio said:

I did not know that. Care to post up a link to this fact?

Last year alone we had quite a few skiers die in the local area. We've had
hikers die. There's never been a mountain biking fatality.

Now Roberto there you go, confusing poor mikey with facts and stuff. You
know he can't handle that it just gives him a headache.

No mention of mtbers anywhere in that 4 year old letter. (which I'll
not repost for you).

So if your statement/subject title is based on the letter, that must
mean it's a lie.

Liar!

Of course if you have any other supporting documentation please post
it.

laters,

marz

This absurdity of people like Mr Vandaman and obvoiusly others who"just
dont get it" seems to be something of a malaise...perhaps a change of
diet might stimulate the brain cells...I wrote the below against the
other piece by Mr Vandeman and will probably refrain from this google
group if one has to suffer such absurdity...

As the mountain-biker/ecologist who probably answered this extremely
perversly minded person first as to the realities of the world of
mountainbikers, and, having read the comments from his diatribe
downwards, I echo almost entirely those sentiments expressed and leave
this unfortunate facist orientated being to his totally unimportant
rantings...my intellect does not have to suffer the insufficiency of
this author on this site and thus makes the site valuless of integrity
and worthy debate...that I too should not know about Kew & the British

Museum is to suppose that Englishmen do not know their own backyard.
What a total waste of time this Vandeman is ..it makes (being a
democrat) very difficult to see his very twisted point of view and
suppose that his irrascible attitude has had something to do with an
impoverished childhood or sexual alienation. ...advice is obviously not

what he is easily able to accept. Demos

Mike Vandeman said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond; his
article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31) was
on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health insurance.
When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in some cases this
involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my colleagues have
reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER putting people back
together who had no insurance. They were almost never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them to
risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and those
who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they should
prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Adam Ruth said:

Mike Vandeman wrote:

<the same old [censored]>

Quoted message said:

Were you raped by a mountain bike in your youth?

No, he's in the closet.

Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 14:46:24 -0400, "S Curtiss" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Outdoor Recreation vs. Wildlife. Letter in San Jose Mercury-News, 3
Jun 02

We all pay the price for irresponsible risk-takers

I was pleased to note the responsible reporting by Elliott Almond;
his article ``Dangers abound in tricky Cascades'' (Page 20A, May 31)
was on target.

For 28 years we lived close to a number of wilderness areas around
Seattle. Too often the press (and the associated sports industry)
breathlessly lionize risk-taking behaviors like mountain climbing,
motorcycles, snowboarding, skate boarding and high-risk skiing. But
there are prices to pay.

Often many who take part in these activities have no health
insurance. When injured, it is you and I who pay for them, and in
some cases this involves life-long subsistence care. A number of my
colleagues have reported spending an entire night in a hospital ER
putting people back together who had no insurance. They were almost
never paid.

Worst of all, other lives are put at risk. Most people have no idea
how dangerous rescues are, especially if a helicopter is involved.
Rescue workers are true heroes, but it is unreasonable to ask them
to risk their lives so some irresponsible risk-takers can get an
adrenaline rush.

It is time to require performance bonds on mountain climbers and
those who take part in dangerous activities. At the very least they
should prove that they have adequate health insurance.

Michael M. Rosenblatt, D.P.M.
San Jose

So now you endorse the extortion and scam of the insurance industry?
The stock market bloat of the HMO and the so-called health industry?
$50 aspirins and $1,000 a night hospital beds? How about the
"catch-22" of bloated malpractice insurance driving up costs and
further increasing health insurance premiums? Insurance companies are
happily raking everyone across the money pits!
If everyone cancelled their insurance today, the industry would lose
the fat-cat profit takers and get back to concern for care and
medicine.

Sure is heart-warming to know these doctors are in it for the money
and not for the concern of their patients. Waaah. A doctor pulled an
all-nighter. I am so sorry. Especially when "average" people do it all
the time with 2nd jobs just to support a family. I hope he didn't miss
his tee-off the next day!

I am no fan of "socialized medicine". Neither am I a fan of hospitals
being run merely to cover a stock market gain. Insurance premiums
should not be outside the realm of anyone's income.

It is the same principle as applied to movie ticket prices. It is
better to have 500 people and $3 apiece than 60 people at $8 apiece.
Lower the premiums so more people can pay into it and it will cost
less for everyone.

BTW - The piece you posted does not mention "mountain biking". It also
has nothing to do with "wildlife". It should read "outdoor recreation
vs. insurance profits".

Did you say something?

Yeah, he said you were an idiot.

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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!

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