Mr. Kramer, I just have to ask...

On either their right side or their left side, they rarely
sleep on their backs.

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Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't know
which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't know
which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

If he told ya that, hed have ta shoot ya.

He might take ya on a photo tour there if ya asks him
nicely though!

fnurk

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Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't know
which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

Say Hey Clairol:

You will have to enroll in one of Stevies snapper photo
courses and he will show you where the elephants lie down.
Now about those awards he alleges to have won .....well I'm
not sure you'll even get to see 'em

5555 Yee-Haw !!

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't know
which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down?

**In all sincerety, maybe if you beg he'll tell you, as in
this one from the archives:

From: MsJody ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: What's DIR?
Newsgroups: rec.scuba Date: 2000-10-04 16:19:19 PST

May I ask what your date of entry on active duty was and
your service number?

=============================================================

From: Steve Kramer ([email hidden]) Subject: Re:
What's DIR? Newsgroups: rec.scuba Date: 2000-10-04
17:35:31 PST

MsJody said:

May I ask what your date of entry on active duty was and
your service number?

You may.

Steve Kramer Osaka, Japan

=============================================================

From: MsJody ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: What's DIR?
Newsgroups: rec.scuba Date: 2000-10-04 22:09:05 PST

Will you give the answers?

==============================================================

From: Steve Kramer ([email hidden]) Subject: Re:
What's DIR? Newsgroups: rec.scuba Date: 2000-10-04
23:16:58 PST

MsJody said:

Will you give the answers?

When you beg, [censored]. :o)

Steve Kramer Osaka, Japan

============================================================

**Are YOU prepared to beg??? ;-)

Quoted message said:

Thanks Clair

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't know
which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert; "I
know where the elephants lie down." I know that they are
doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where DO the
elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

*****The same place where his "awards" are..................

[email hidden] ([email hidden]) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't know
which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

Clair, I'm sorry that you got caught up in all this. What
this really is is actually a wonderfully entertaining and
embarrassing exposure of the trolls. In their headlong rush
to publicly humiliate themselves without any help from
others, they have managed to reach a new level of idiocy!
The wisest of them all seems to have the brain power of a
belt sander and they go down from there.

You see, the answer to your question 'where do the elephants
lie down?' Well... any where they want to!! There is nothing
special about elephants lying down. They do it all the time.

There are 4-5 elephant camps within an hour of Chiang Mai,
and in every show the elephants lie down. And every morning
the mahouts bring the elephants down to the river to bathe
(elephants love the water) and while the little ones splash
about like human toddlers, the older elephants sigh
contentedly and lie down on their sides, sometimes
completely submerging, while the mahouts scrub them down
with brushes. If the water isn't deep enough, then they just
lie half submerged and the mahouts throw buckets of water on
them. And when the mahouts take off the benches that the
tourists ride on the elephants often lie down and wallow in
the dust for a few minutes. Sorry, but this has all been a
send up of the trolls. They just didn't know it. *grin*

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

[email hidden] ([email hidden]) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't know
which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

Mine sleeps on the couch, usually while my wife and I
are at work.

Cheers 😉

"Fred Nurk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

If he told ya that, hed have ta shoot ya.

He might take ya on a photo tour there if ya asks him
nicely though!

fnurk

More to the point, what about Mr. Kramers *awards*. He also
claims to be an *award winning photographer* but to this day
has never been able to back up this claim to anyone. Much
like his famous "I know where the elephants lie down" quote,
it's probably just hot air.

"Fred Nurk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

If he told ya that, hed have ta shoot ya.

**Either that or SNITCH on you....

Quoted message said:

He might take ya on a photo tour there if ya asks him
nicely though!

fnurk

In article
<[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says... Sorry, but this has all been

Quoted message said:

a send up of the trolls. They just didn't know it. *grin*

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand

*****I think you mean a send up by the troll eh Stevie????
Nice to see you back again, I thought for a dreadful minute
you had buckled under to the thought police and had stopped
responding................Silly me, you can't help yourself
can you?????

BTW, still no sign of the AFP.........Any progress
your end???

*BIG GRIN*

"Steve Kramer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] ([email hidden])
wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

Clair, I'm sorry that you got caught up in all this.

**Liar!!! You're glad she's posted because it's given you
ANOTHER excuse to SPAM this newsgroup.

Quoted message said:

What this really is is actually a wonderfully entertaining
and embarrassing exposure of the trolls. In their headlong
rush to publicly humiliate themselves without any help
from others, they have managed to reach a new level of
idiocy! The wisest of them all seems to have the brain
power of a belt sander and they go down from there.

**Being as YOU are the troll here, you've just gone and put
your foot in your mouth.

Well done.

Quoted message said:

You see, the answer to your question 'where do the
elephants lie down?' Well... any where they want to!!
There is nothing special about elephants lying down.

**Didn't stop you from using it as a tag line in your advert
though, did it Steve?

But as you say, nothing special about elephants lying down.

And nothing special either about the idiot who used it in
his advert.

Quoted message said:

They do it all the time.

There are 4-5 elephant camps within an hour of Chiang Mai,
and in every show the elephants lie down. And every
morning the mahouts bring the elephants down to the river
to bathe (elephants love the water) and while the little
ones splash about like human toddlers, the older elephants
sigh contentedly and lie down on their sides, sometimes
completely submerging, while the mahouts scrub them down
with brushes. If the water isn't deep enough, then they
just lie half submerged and the mahouts throw buckets of
water on them. And when the mahouts take off the benches
that the tourists ride on the elephants often lie down and
wallow in the dust for a few minutes. Sorry, but this has
all been a send up of the trolls. They just didn't know
it. *grin*

**So, you really DO know where the elephants lay down.
Good for you.

Now you've cleared that one up, what about clearing up the
controversy about your "awards".......

LOL!!! ;-)

Quoted message said:

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand
takingthepiss.0catch.comstevekramerOpen ↗

--
"In this most recent case, Taken Gthepiss also thinks that
nothing is going to happen. It probably wont for at least
a year, till all the loopholes are filled, then he goes
inside too." - Steve Kramer

"I know where the elephants lay down..." - Steve Kramer

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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] ([email hidden])
wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

Clair, I'm sorry that you got caught up in all this. What
this really is is actually a wonderfully entertaining and
embarrassing exposure of the trolls. In their headlong
rush to publicly humiliate themselves without any help
from others, they have managed to reach a new level of
idiocy! The wisest of them all seems to have the brain
power of a belt sander and they go down from there.

You see, the answer to your question 'where do the
elephants lie down?' Well... any where they want to!!
There is nothing special about elephants lying down. They
do it all the time.

There are 4-5 elephant camps within an hour of Chiang Mai,
and in every show the elephants lie down. And every
morning the mahouts bring the elephants down to the river
to bathe (elephants love the water) and while the little
ones splash about like human toddlers, the older elephants
sigh contentedly and lie down on their sides, sometimes
completely submerging, while the mahouts scrub them down
with brushes. If the water isn't deep enough, then they
just lie half submerged and the mahouts throw buckets of
water on them. And when the mahouts take off the benches
that the tourists ride on the elephants often lie down and
wallow in the dust for a few minutes. Sorry, but this has
all been a send up of the trolls. They just didn't know
it. *grin*

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

Nice to see you making an appearance here Steve even if your
paragraph on elephants is infact utter rubbish . Did anyone
really want to know about how the little elephants "splash
about like human toddlers"?

I think not, what we really want to see is some proof of
your 'awards' so come on Steve answer your critics and
proove to the world your not the liar we all think you are!

In article
<[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says... Sorry, but this has all been

Quoted message said:

a send up of the trolls. They just didn't know it. *grin*

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand

*****An elaborate "send up" eh Steve???? To quote your own
advertising..... Learn Photography in Thailand!

Make your holiday adventure one that will give you lasting
pleasure, with new skills to bring to each and every
vacation to come!

****A load of absolute waffle deleted............

New students can often be taken on 24 hour notice, but more
notice means more private lessons!

I know where the elephants lay down...

****** You see now Steve what an absolute liar and fraud you
are??? Oh you already know that??

*EXTRA BIG GRIN*

[email hidden] (Steve Kramer) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] ([email hidden])
wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

[SNIP]

. Sorry, but this has all been

Quoted message said:

a send up of the trolls. They just didn't know it. *grin*

Oh my!! That is simply too funny for words!! These
simpletons never had a clue, did they? I suppose trolls
never really do. Such is the very nature of a fool. And
these trolls are so typical. Larbgai must be too stupid to
even be aware that he's been had. The one who calls himself
Rick Armstrong... well, his moral indignation is jealousy
with a halo. That much is obvious to a blind man. Chabon...
we can forgive Chabon. He's suffered so much. And Pickle.
No... we can just forget about Pickle. He really doesn't
count, does he.

I imagine most of the internet is laughing at these bumkins
by now. Wonderful!

Thanks Clair

HEY Larbs,icq me sometime and tell me whats this I hear?

"LarbGai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:owcCc.50997$sj4.45551@news-
server.bigpond.net.au...

Quoted message said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your advert;
"I know where the elephants lie down." I know that they
are doing it to have you on, but in all sincerity, where
DO the elephants lie down? Thanks Clair

*****The same place where his "awards"
are..................

[email hidden] (LarbGai) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says... Sorry, but this has all been

Quoted message said:

a send up of the trolls. They just didn't know it. *grin*

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand

*****I think you mean a send up by the troll eh Stevie????
Nice to see you back again, I thought for a dreadful
minute you had buckled under to the thought police and had
stopped responding

Poor little man. Is your ego so big that you think he was
responding to YOU? Mr. Kramer was responding to my question.
He hasn't answered any of your posts in two weeks. I doubt
that he's kill filed you. He probably just ignores you as
most others do. And as I shall from now on. Clair

Takin and crew,KRAMER is CLAIR!

"Takin Gthepiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Steve Kramer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] ([email hidden])
wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your
advert; "I know where the elephants lie down." I know
that they are doing it to have you on, but in all
sincerity, where DO the elephants lie down? Thanks
Clair

Clair, I'm sorry that you got caught up in all this.

**Liar!!! You're glad she's posted because it's given you
ANOTHER excuse

to

Quoted message said:

SPAM this newsgroup.

Let's not forget 'Clair Vickers' is one of Steve's own
creations to give himself an excuse to talk more trash. In
fact, 'Clair' is in Thailand using an inet account. We've
seen 'her' here before with the stupid troll questions and
statements.

Rick Armstrong said:

"Steve Kramer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] ([email hidden])
wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your
advert; "I know where the elephants lie down." I know
that they are doing it to have you on, but in all
sincerity, where DO the elephants lie down? Thanks
Clair

Clair, I'm sorry that you got caught up in all this.
What this really is is actually a wonderfully
entertaining and embarrassing exposure of the trolls. In
their headlong rush to publicly humiliate themselves
without any help from others, they have managed to reach
a new level of idiocy! The wisest of them all seems to
have the brain power of a belt sander and they go down
from there.

You see, the answer to your question 'where do the
elephants lie down?' Well... any where they want to!!
There is nothing special about elephants lying down.
They do it all the time.

There are 4-5 elephant camps within an hour of Chiang
Mai, and in every show the elephants lie down. And every
morning the mahouts bring the elephants down to the
river to bathe (elephants love the water) and while the
little ones splash about like human toddlers, the older
elephants sigh contentedly and lie down on their sides,
sometimes completely submerging, while the mahouts scrub
them down with brushes. If the water isn't deep enough,
then they just lie half submerged and the mahouts throw
buckets of water on them. And when the mahouts take off
the benches that the tourists ride on the elephants
often lie down and wallow in the dust for a few minutes.
Sorry, but this has all been a send up of the trolls.
They just didn't know it. *grin*

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

Nice to see you making an appearance here Steve even if
your paragraph on elephants is infact utter rubbish . Did
anyone really want to know about how the little elephants
"splash about like human toddlers"?

I think not, what we really want to see is some proof
of your 'awards' so come on Steve answer your critics
and proove to the world your not the liar we all think
you are!

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] ([email hidden])
wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls, but I don't
know which group they are in hence the cross posting.

All the trolls keep repeating the line from your
advert; "I know where the elephants lie down." I know
that they are doing it to have you on, but in all
sincerity, where DO the elephants lie down? Thanks
Clair

[SNIP]

. Sorry, but this has all been

Quoted message said:

a send up of the trolls. They just didn't know it.
*grin*

Oh my!! That is simply too funny for words!! These
simpletons never had a clue, did they? I suppose trolls
never really do. Such is the very nature of a fool. And
these trolls are so typical. Larbgai must be too stupid to
even be aware that he's been had. The one who calls
himself Rick Armstrong... well, his moral indignation is
jealousy with a halo. That much is obvious to a blind man.
Chabon... we can forgive Chabon. He's suffered so much.
And Pickle. No... we can just forget about Pickle. He
really doesn't count, does he.

I imagine most of the internet is laughing at these
bumkins by now. Wonderful!

Thanks Clair

I've noticed this more and more recently, Steve Kramer
orchestrating a small 'gang' of sock puppets in order to try
and get at his critics. Yes, Clair is the latest puppet and
the post is even written in Kramer's own style -you can
easily tell it's him.

It seems as soon as anyone questions the integrity of
Steve's business they are immediately attacked by a sock
puppet (a different one every time).