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  1. Going through MTBR.com, there are few parts of a bike that
    have been more problematic than the bottom bracket.
    Numerous reports of short-life, abbreviated rides because
    of ISIS bottom bracket failure infest MTBR, and it seems
    that unless you have a Phil Wood, your BB will find an
    untimely death in minutes.

    So what's the verdict? Are ISIS bearings too small? Are
    there any that don't develop play in short periods of time?

    Phil Wood owners may just be pussyfooting the BB and thus,
    it looks like it has a good track record, but it in fact may
    not be. Plus, the ones that buy PW products usually aren't
    your typical mountain biking type... i.e. they're [censored]
    expensive.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  2. ----------
    In article <[email hidden]>,

    ZeeExSixAre said:

    Going through MTBR.com, there are few parts of a bike that
    have been more problematic than the bottom bracket.
    Numerous reports of short-life, abbreviated rides because
    of ISIS bottom bracket failure infest MTBR, and it seems
    that unless you have a Phil Wood, your BB will find an
    untimely death in minutes.

    So what's the verdict? Are ISIS bearings too small?
    Are there any that don't develop play in short periods
    of time?

    Phil Wood owners may just be pussyfooting the BB and thus,
    it looks like it has a good track record, but it in fact
    may not be. Plus, the ones that buy PW products usually
    aren't your typical mountain biking type... i.e. they're
    [censored] expensive.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training


    I'm well over 200 lbs. The Truvativ BB lasted about 2 months
    before it developed play in the bearings, +- 60 miles a
    week. The Race Face has been hanging in there since last
    summer but won't stay tight in the shell despite repeated
    torqueing to spec. Both bb's were the x country models.
    Don't know about the PW.

    Paul

  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [censored] expensive.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training


    I'm well over 200 lbs. The Truvativ BB lasted about 2
    months before it developed play in the bearings, +- 60
    miles a week. The Race Face has been hanging in there
    since last summer but won't stay tight in the shell
    despite repeated torqueing to spec. Both bb's were the x
    country models. Don't know about the PW.

    Paul

    What many people don't realize is that Truvative ISIS
    BBs have ajustable bearing races. With a pair of
    Truvativ lockring tools you can easily adjust out the
    play. The bearings are even sericable if you want take
    completely apart.
    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-
    online.com

  4. ZeeExSixAre said:

    Going through MTBR.com, there are few parts of a bike that
    have been more problematic than the bottom bracket.
    Numerous reports of short-life, abbreviated rides because
    of ISIS bottom bracket failure infest MTBR, and it seems
    that unless you have a Phil Wood, your BB will find an
    untimely death in minutes.

    So what's the verdict? Are ISIS bearings too small?
    Are there any that don't develop play in short periods
    of time?

    Most of the stories I've heard involve short lifespan. Is
    that the result of smaller bearings?

    The current concensus on STW is that much is dependent upon
    the installation and how well they are maintained. People
    who have had their frames' BBs faced and/or installed them
    on 'better' frames seem to have had fewer problems.
    Similarly, regularly pulling them out and making sure
    there's no moisture in the BB shell appears to help.

    I've been running an RF Evolve FR for over a year with no
    problems. Having said that, it started making some odd
    noises last time I was out...

  5. ----------
    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Chris Phillipo said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [censored] expensive.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training


    I'm well over 200 lbs. The Truvativ BB lasted about 2
    months before it developed play in the bearings, +- 60
    miles a week. The Race Face has been hanging in there
    since last summer but won't stay tight in the shell
    despite repeated torqueing to spec. Both bb's were the x
    country models. Don't know about the PW.

    Paul

    What many people don't realize is that Truvative ISIS
    BBs have ajustable bearing races. With a pair of
    Truvativ lockring tools you can easily adjust out the
    play. The bearings are even sericable if you want take
    completely apart.
    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-
    online.com

    You're right I didn't know that. I'll take another look at
    truvativ. I might even have that bb laying around.

    Paul

  6. "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    ZeeExSixAre said:

    Going through MTBR.com, there are few parts of a bike
    that have been


    more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    problematic than the bottom bracket. Numerous reports of
    short-life, abbreviated rides because of ISIS bottom
    bracket failure infest MTBR,


    and it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seems that unless you have a Phil Wood, your BB will
    find an untimely


    death

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in minutes.

    So what's the verdict? Are ISIS bearings too small?
    Are there any that don't develop play in short periods
    of time?

    Most of the stories I've heard involve short lifespan. Is
    that the result of smaller bearings?

    The current concensus on STW is that much is dependent
    upon the installation and how well they are maintained.
    People who have had their frames' BBs faced and/or
    installed them on 'better' frames seem to have had fewer
    problems. Similarly, regularly pulling them out and making
    sure there's no moisture in the BB shell appears to help.

    I've been running an RF Evolve FR for over a year with no
    problems. Having said that, it started making some odd
    noises last time I was out...

    The spindle is big, and so there is less room for bearings.
    Now if square taper bearings are larger and have less
    problems, I can see that being the rectifying issue. But I
    just don't know... I guess BBs are a replaceable item. Now
    that Chris mentioned that Truvativs are serviceable,
    however...

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  7. "ZeeExSixAre" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    ZeeExSixAre said:

    Going through MTBR.com, there are few parts of a bike
    that have been


    more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    problematic than the bottom bracket. Numerous reports
    of short-life, abbreviated rides because of ISIS
    bottom bracket failure infest MTBR,


    and it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seems that unless you have a Phil Wood, your BB will
    find an untimely


    death

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in minutes.

    So what's the verdict? Are ISIS bearings too small?
    Are there any


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    don't develop play in short periods of time?

    Most of the stories I've heard involve short lifespan.
    Is that the


    result

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of smaller bearings?

    The current concensus on STW is that much is dependent
    upon the installation and how well they are maintained.
    People who have had their frames' BBs faced and/or
    installed them on 'better' frames seem to have had fewer
    problems. Similarly, regularly pulling them out and
    making


    sure

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    there's no moisture in the BB shell appears to help.

    I've been running an RF Evolve FR for over a year with
    no problems. Having said that, it started making some
    odd noises last time I was


    out...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The spindle is big, and so there is less room for
    bearings. Now if square taper bearings are larger and have
    less problems, I can see that being the rectifying issue.
    But I just don't know...

    The Spanish BB being developed in BMX by flybikes looks very
    interesting, I could see it crossing over to MTB's if it
    takes off.

    flybikesbmx.comspanishbb02eng.htm

    Steve.

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