muscle balance

AllEmailDeletedImmediately said:

hi,

i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could find info
on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for another
set.

ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg curl.
(ham/quad ration)

Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?

The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

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JMW said:

AllEmailDeletedImmediately said:

hi,

i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could find info
on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for another
set.

ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg curl.
(ham/quad ration)

Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?

The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

I agree...

I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and sometimes
shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?

All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for shoulder
stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.

Or so I have read. ;-)

I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
just due to the overall function and structure.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JMW said:

AllEmailDeletedImmediately said:

hi,

i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could find info
on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for
another
set.

ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg curl.
(ham/quad ration)

Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?

The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

I agree...

I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and sometimes
shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?

All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for shoulder
stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.

Or so I have read. ;-)

I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
just due to the overall function and structure.

Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

--
Keith

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Hobbes said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JMW said:

"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>hi,
>
>i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could find
>info
>on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for
>another
>set.
>
>ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg curl.
>(ham/quad ration)

Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?

The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

I agree...

I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and sometimes
shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?

All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for shoulder
stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.

Or so I have read. ;-)

I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
just due to the overall function and structure.

Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

How can that happen? Wouldn't running (a natural movement) work the leg
in a natural fashion? Or does it happen to folks that do specific
hamstring exercises?
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

Hobbes said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

JMW said:

"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>hi,
>
>i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could find info
>on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for
>another
>set.
>
>ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg curl.
>(ham/quad ration)

Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?

The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

I agree...

I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and sometimes
shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?

All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for shoulder
stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.

Or so I have read. ;-)

I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
just due to the overall function and structure.

Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

Which came first: the chicken or the egg?

Chondromalacia patella is more related to repetitive impact. Is it
possible, if not probable, that a runner changes muscle recruitment to
accomodate for it?

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JMW said:

Hobbes said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

JMW <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >hi,
> >
> >i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could find
> >info
> >on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for
> >another
> >set.
> >
> >ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg curl.
> >(ham/quad ration)
>
> Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
> mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?
>
> The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
> groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
> particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

I agree...

I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and sometimes
shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?

All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for shoulder
stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.

Or so I have read. ;-)

I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
just due to the overall function and structure.

Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

Which came first: the chicken or the egg?

Chondromalacia patella is more related to repetitive impact. Is it
possible, if not probable, that a runner changes muscle recruitment to
accomodate for it?

Don't know about that, as the therapy is to strengthen the quad and
stretch the hamstring. Which worked just fine for me (n=1, but most
people respond to therapy). Although I got carried away a bit with the
strengthening aspect.

--
Keith

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article
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Hobbes said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
JMW <[email hidden]> wrote:

> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >hi,
> >
> >i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could find
> >info
> >on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for
> >another
> >set.
> >
> >ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg
> >curl.
> >(ham/quad ration)
>
> Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
> mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?
>
> The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
> groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
> particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

I agree...

I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and sometimes
shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?

All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for shoulder
stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.

Or so I have read. ;-)

I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
just due to the overall function and structure.

Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

How can that happen? Wouldn't running (a natural movement) work the leg
in a natural fashion? Or does it happen to folks that do specific
hamstring exercises?

'Natural' is really a pretty much useless term, IMO.

My hamstrings got very strong and very tight. From running. The doctor
prescribed stretching and quad strengthening. I started to squat. When I
learnt to box squat my hamstring flexibility really improved.

--
Keith

JMW said:

Pete said:

"JMW" <[email hidden]> schreef:

Quoted message said:

>ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg curl.
>(ham/quad ration)

Quoted message said:

Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?

Whats even more complicated is that the hams work together with the glutes
as hip joint extensors. As opposed to knee joint flexion in the leg curl.

Yes. That's what I was referring to. Of course, if I refer to
Lombard's Paradox, some [censored] will complain that I'm getting all
scientific and technical.

Some "[censored]" has already drawn attention to the possibility! ;o)

Nothing wrong with referring to Lombard's Paradox, of which most of us
are already well aware; it's when you go off at a tangent and post
your Googled interpretations in deeply pseudo-scientific
bullshitspeak, that you start getting up sensitive noses, as the deep
and unmistakable stench of [censored] permeates the Group!

HAGW!

TFIF!

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Hobbes said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Hobbes said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:

> In article <[email hidden]>,
> JMW <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> > "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > >hi,
> > >
> > >i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could
> > >find
> > >info
> > >on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong for
> > >another
> > >set.
> > >
> > >ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg
> > >curl.
> > >(ham/quad ration)
> >
> > Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a prime
> > mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?
> >
> > The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
> > groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
> > particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.
>
> I agree...
>
> I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and sometimes
> shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?
>
> All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for shoulder
> stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
> the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
> resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.
>
> Or so I have read. ;-)
>
> I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
> just due to the overall function and structure.

Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

How can that happen? Wouldn't running (a natural movement) work the leg
in a natural fashion? Or does it happen to folks that do specific
hamstring exercises?

'Natural' is really a pretty much useless term, IMO.

My hamstrings got very strong and very tight. From running. The doctor
prescribed stretching and quad strengthening. I started to squat. When I
learnt to box squat my hamstring flexibility really improved.

Makes sense...
Did you accompany that with static hamstring stretching?
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

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Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

that's the kind of thing i'd like to avoid.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article
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Hobbes said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,
Hobbes <[email hidden]> wrote:

> In article <[email hidden]>,
> OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > JMW <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> > > "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > > >hi,
> > > >
> > > >i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could
> > > >find
> > > >info
> > > >on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong
> > > >for
> > > >another
> > > >set.
> > > >
> > > >ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to leg
> > > >curl.
> > > >(ham/quad ration)
> > >
> > > Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a
> > > prime
> > > mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?
> > >
> > > The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
> > > groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
> > > particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.
> >
> > I agree...
> >
> > I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and
> > sometimes
> > shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?
> >
> > All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for
> > shoulder
> > stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles of
> > the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
> > resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.
> >
> > Or so I have read. ;-)
> >
> > I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with legs
> > just due to the overall function and structure.
>
>
> Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
> hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

How can that happen? Wouldn't running (a natural movement) work the leg
in a natural fashion? Or does it happen to folks that do specific
hamstring exercises?

'Natural' is really a pretty much useless term, IMO.

My hamstrings got very strong and very tight. From running. The doctor
prescribed stretching and quad strengthening. I started to squat. When I
learnt to box squat my hamstring flexibility really improved.

Makes sense...
Did you accompany that with static hamstring stretching?

Once in a while.

--
Keith

Hobbes said:

Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners

Sounds like some nasty venereal pathogen.

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Quoted message said:

In article
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Hobbes said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
JMW <[email hidden]> wrote:

> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >hi,
> >
> >i was wondering if anyone could point me somewhere where i could
> >find
> >info
> >on making sure that one set of muscles isn't getting too strong
> >for
> >another
> >set.
> >
> >ex: if i can leg press 100# 1rm, how much should i be able to
> >leg curl.
> >(ham/quad ration)
>
> Isn't that further complicated by the fact that the hams are a
> prime
> mover in both the leg press and the leg curl?
>
> The short answer: don't worry about it. Exercise all your muscle
> groups, and none will get "too strong." The exception is injury,
> particularly with nerve damage. That's another issue altogether.

I agree...

I understand that a major cause of carpal tunnel syndrome and
sometimes
shoulder problems can be caused by imbalance?

All three heads of the deltoids need to be worked equally for
shoulder
stability, and carpal tunnel can be treated by working the muscles
of
the top of the fore-arm by spreading the fingers apart using band
resistance, and doing reverse wrist curls.

Or so I have read. ;-)

I think it'd be awfully hard tho' to have a similar problem with
legs
just due to the overall function and structure.

Not at all. Chondromalacia patella is very common in runners whose
hamstrings get overdeveloped and shorten.

How can that happen? Wouldn't running (a natural movement) work the
leg
in a natural fashion? Or does it happen to folks that do specific
hamstring exercises?

Ask a runner to touch his toes. When I was a runner, I could barely
touch the middle of my shins. What's unnatural is sitting on your ass
all day.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com