Music For Long Trips

Here's something I may consider next time my trail crosses Wyoming. Can we
hear any thoughts from riders who have heard it in action?

http://www.bicyclestereo.com/

David

"Dianne Siebold" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering

what

Quoted message said:

folks do to bring music with them? I don't want to wear headphones for
safety reasons. Ideally some sort of CD player w/speakers would be great

or

Quoted message said:

an MP3 player with some sort of speaker. I think that would be preferable
to radio, especially for trips where there might not be reception.

Let me know what works for you. Thanks.

Dianne

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them?

That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.
-------------------------------
John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Since 1983
Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
http://www.businesscycles.com

"John Dacey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them?

That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.

What an appallingly uncultured thing to say!
--
"You need to declare a jihad on your own ignorant ass."
- Ed Dolan in alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent

Mark South said:

"John Dacey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them?

That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.

What an appallingly uncultured thing to say!

Dear Mark,

Forgive him--he can't always Handel it and suffers from
agonizing Bach trouble that makes him cranky. You can
Telemann about good music, but you can't always make him
enjoy it. Al Binoni's okay, but Vivaldi all-di time for me!

As for taking music with me, I whistle when bicycling or
lashing teams of basset hounds across the frozen tundra.

Culture? John and I got culture out the wazoo. We got couth,
too, if anyone needs it.

Carl Fogel

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them? I don't want to wear headphones for
safety reasons. Ideally some sort of CD player w/speakers would be great or
an MP3 player with some sort of speaker. I think that would be preferable
to radio, especially for trips where there might not be reception.
Let me know what works for you. Thanks.

Same kind of music you listen to off the bike.
--------------
Alex

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them? I don't want to wear headphones for
safety reasons. Ideally some sort of CD player w/speakers would be great or
an MP3 player with some sort of speaker.

I think it's dangerous because it's distracting and can cover other
important sounds you need to hear.

I recommend listening to Paul Oakenfeld or BT. In place of your headlight, a
strobe, don't forget your pacifier. Long rides can make one thirsty.

J Summers

Quoted message said:

Mark South said:

"John Dacey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:39:39 -0700, "Dianne Siebold"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
>folks do to bring music with them?

That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.

What an appallingly uncultured thing to say!

Dear Mark,

Forgive him--he can't always Handel it and suffers from
agonizing Bach trouble that makes him cranky. You can
Telemann about good music, but you can't always make him
enjoy it. Al Binoni's okay, but Vivaldi all-di time for me!

As for taking music with me, I whistle when bicycling or
lashing teams of basset hounds across the frozen tundra....

I listen to Cage's 4'33" over and over while cycling.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them? I don't want to wear headphones for
safety reasons. Ideally some sort of CD player w/speakers would be great or
an MP3 player with some sort of speaker. I think that would be preferable
to radio, especially for trips where there might not be reception.

Let me know what works for you. Thanks.

I sometimes put on a 47-406 Primo V-Monster tire [1] and listen to the
pitch of the tread hum change with my speed.

[1] Except for my MTB, all of my bikes/trikes have at least on ISO
406-mm wheel.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them? I don't want to wear headphones for
safety reasons. Ideally some sort of CD player w/speakers would be great or
an MP3 player with some sort of speaker. I think that would be preferable
to radio, especially for trips where there might not be reception.

Let me know what works for you. Thanks.

In my experience, ear-bud headphones do not mask background noise to
much of an extent unless the volume is very high, and they have the
advantage that they're light and they don't cause everyone around you
to have to listen to your music.

Personally, I use a clip-on FM radio with earphones; I paid the
handsome sum of one dollar for it, and if it gets lost or damaged, I'm
almost completely unconcerned. I can get as many more of them as I
want for that price. It weighs under 50 grams with batteries.
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

John Dacey said:

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them?

That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.

Isn't he the composer who wrote the same bloody piece 430 times?

Or does it just seem that way?
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

Werehatrack said:

John Dacey said:

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
folks do to bring music with them?

That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.

Isn't he the composer who wrote the same bloody piece 430 times?

Or does it just seem that way?

Dear Werehatrack,

No.

And no.

The accusation is usually attributed to a confused and
jealous composer known more for his wit than his music, who
actually meant to complain that Vivaldi kept using the same
keys again and again, A through G.

"Bloody Vivaldi" is actually the title of an attempt to hide
how poorly modern performers actually play their
instruments. Copies are invariably on sale on eBay.

Let's see . . . yes, why not? Opus 7, twelve concertos,
Denon 75498, I Solisti Italiani, with that noted Italian
oboe player, HansJorg Schellenberger sitting in on No. 1 and
No. 7.

See you in about two hours.

Helpfully,

Carl Fogel

Quoted message said:

Werehatrack said:

John Dacey said:

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:39:39 -0700, "Dianne Siebold"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
>folks do to bring music with them?

That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.

Isn't he the composer who wrote the same bloody piece 430 times?

Or does it just seem that way?

Uh-oh, look what I've done. It seems my repeated taunts at Carl about
Vivaldi have had ill effects. It just goes to show what can happen if
you repeat a thing that wants for sufficient accuracy often enough --
after a while some people start to believe it's true. Just look at
Dubya's rationalizations for war, or Jobst's claims about the
"importance" of track glue.

Quoted message said:

Dear Werehatrack,

No.

And no.

The accusation is usually attributed to a confused and
jealous composer known more for his wit than his music,

Stravinsky was a cutup? Who would've guessed.

Quoted message said:

who
actually meant to complain that Vivaldi kept using the same
keys again and again, A through G.

"Bloody Vivaldi" is actually the title of an attempt to hide
how poorly modern performers actually play their
instruments. Copies are invariably on sale on eBay.

Let's see . . . yes, why not? Opus 7, twelve concertos,
Denon 75498, I Solisti Italiani, with that noted Italian
oboe player, HansJorg Schellenberger sitting in on No. 1 and
No. 7.

See you in about two hours.

Opus 7. Yup, that's a beaut, but I'll bet you start to squirm in your
seat long before they get to the twelfth concerto. Isn't that the one
that Vivaldi named "La Cetra"? Before the halfway point many listeners
begin to think of it as "'Et Cetera".
-------------------------------
John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Since 1983
Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
http://www.businesscycles.com

John Dacey said:

Quoted message said:

Werehatrack said:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:40:05 -0400, John Dacey
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:39:39 -0700, "Dianne Siebold"
><[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering what
>>folks do to bring music with them?
>
>That eminent Baroque musicologist (and rbt regular), Carl Fogel has
>suggested The Compleat Vivaldi for extended listening. As I understand
>it, the nature of his concerti is such that even if your trip is not
>particularly long, tutti Vivaldi will make it seem so.

Isn't he the composer who wrote the same bloody piece 430 times?

Or does it just seem that way?

Uh-oh, look what I've done. It seems my repeated taunts at Carl about
Vivaldi have had ill effects. It just goes to show what can happen if
you repeat a thing that wants for sufficient accuracy often enough --
after a while some people start to believe it's true. Just look at
Dubya's rationalizations for war, or Jobst's claims about the
"importance" of track glue.

Quoted message said:

Dear Werehatrack,

No.

And no.

The accusation is usually attributed to a confused and
jealous composer known more for his wit than his music,

Stravinsky was a cutup? Who would've guessed.

Quoted message said:

who
actually meant to complain that Vivaldi kept using the same
keys again and again, A through G.

"Bloody Vivaldi" is actually the title of an attempt to hide
how poorly modern performers actually play their
instruments. Copies are invariably on sale on eBay.

Let's see . . . yes, why not? Opus 7, twelve concertos,
Denon 75498, I Solisti Italiani, with that noted Italian
oboe player, HansJorg Schellenberger sitting in on No. 1 and
No. 7.

See you in about two hours.

Opus 7. Yup, that's a beaut, but I'll bet you start to squirm in your
seat long before they get to the twelfth concerto. Isn't that the one
that Vivaldi named "La Cetra"? Before the halfway point many listeners
begin to think of it as "'Et Cetera".
-------------------------------
John Dacey
Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Since 1983
Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
http://www.businesscycles.com

Dear John,

Nope--Opus 7 is untitled.

La Cetra, the Lyre, is Opus9.

If you're squirming, you may just need a Brooks saddle for
your ears.

Only hard-core aficionados like me listen to a dozen
concertos in a row by anyone.

Tempo, of course, varies according to the conductor's blood
pressure.

A typical Vivaldi concerto runs about eight minutes--the
twelve concertos published as Opus 7 run about 98 minutes,
ranging from 6:12 to 10:43.

The shortest well-known concerto is the lively piece RV 127,
written "allla rustica" to invoke a peasant dance, which
runs about three and a half minutes.

The longest is probably RV 278, which can run almost
eighteen minutes.

A minor technical point (this is rec.bicycles.tech, after
all) is that when Vivaldi's string concertos are played by
wind or brass musicians hungry for glory, the music is
played faster. (He wrote plenty of concertos for them, but
they can't resist transposing.)

When Rampal played "The Four Seasons," he had to choose
between playing the music for violin either more quickly or
more quietly on his flute--the violin's bow can play notes
endlessly without rests, but the flute player has to keep
stopping to suck in another lungful of air. To encompass the
violin passages, the flautist must either play the notes
either more softly or more rapidly (or both).

Thus the fastest modern recording of "The Four Seasons" is
by Rampal. When he played Opus 10, the six concertos written
for flute, and the other scattered flute concertos, he
naturally played at a normal tempo.

Presumably, Rampal liked to spin at a higher cadence than
normal on the flats (pun). He was a cheerful fellow--the
picture in his "Four Seasons" CD shows him in faultless
formal attire, holding his flute like a violin and bowing
it.

Carl Fogel

Dianne Siebold said:

I have started taking some long day trips on my bike and was wondering
what folks do to bring music with them? I don't want to wear headphones
for safety reasons. Ideally some sort of CD player w/speakers would be
great or an MP3 player with some sort of speaker. I think that would be
preferable to radio, especially for trips where there might not be
reception.
Let me know what works for you. Thanks.
Dianne

I saw a bicycle cd stereo system on ebay a couple of months ago so they
exist. Those bar end speakers might be what you need.

I have some combination radio/headlight/horn systems, one even has a
compass. Not impressive as headlights, but I prefer to travel with a
main and spare headlight at night, so they satisfy the backup
headlight need. Some are incredibly compact, nice has a short tour or
commuting bike.

--