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  1. jmcquown wrote:
    I've never been to another funeral since. Not everyone goes

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    to funerals. I won't again unless it's immediate family.

    Jill

    Well, of course that is your right, but if you were thinking of
    comforting others, over your own comfort, you might attend?
    I have been comforted in my mourning just because of the presence of
    folks who didn't *have to* come, but DID. Their presence reminded me of
    the respect and admiration my loved ones garnered and left me with nice
    memories. Coworkers, fellow volunteers, choir members.. I didn't know
    them, but their presence reminded me of how special the deceased was.
    Just thinking of it now makes me tear up. How would you feel if no one
    bothered to recognize your loved one, and no one cared enough to attend?

  2. <snip>

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    Consider yourself lucky. My parents used to take us to family funerals


    (great

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    aunts and great uncles) from the time I was very young. I was a pall


    bearer at

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    the funeral of my best friend who was killed in a motorcycle accident when


    I was

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    14, and again 4 months later for another friend who was killed in a car
    accident. I hate funerals, but attendance is, IMO, a matter of doing the


    right

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    thing, whether you like funerals or not. Aside from being flooded with


    old and

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    sad memories at funerals, the services themselves just [censored] me right off.
    Ministers always use the services as an opportunity to push their


    mythology and

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    try to explain the their god has a reason for the person's death.

    AMEN BRUDDAH!!!!!!!

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    We attended a "dead spread" luncheon at the home of the 46-year-old


    friend's

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    widow after the funeral. All of the close friends and family were asked


    to

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    bring a dish to pass. I brought King Ranch Chicken and peach cobbler.


    Lots

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    and lots of people attended, so there was *tons* of all sorts of food


    and

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    copious amounts of alcohol.

    A few people in my wife's family have done memorial cocktail parties


    instead of

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    funerals or wakes.

    OOOOOoooooooooooooohhhhhhhh! A memorial cocktail party! I'm going to have
    to drill that into people's heads. That and donate all that's left of me;
    where I'm going I won't need it!

    It's perfect!

    helen

  3. Goomba38 said:

    jmcquown wrote:
    I've never been to another funeral since. Not everyone goes

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    to funerals. I won't again unless it's immediate family.

    Jill

    Well, of course that is your right, but if you were thinking of
    comforting others, over your own comfort, you might attend?
    I have been comforted in my mourning just because of the presence of
    folks who didn't *have to* come, but DID.

    Considering no one close to me has died since 1977 (the aforementioned
    school-mate) I haven't needed comforting. Guess I'm lucky that way.

    Their presence reminded me

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    of the respect and admiration my loved ones garnered and left me with
    nice memories. Coworkers, fellow volunteers, choir members.. I didn't
    know them, but their presence reminded me of how special the deceased
    was. Just thinking of it now makes me tear up. How would you feel if
    no one bothered to recognize your loved one, and no one cared enough
    to attend?

    My parents will have an attendance, I'm sure, unless their friends die
    before they do. I'm pretty sure no one *will* bother to attend my funeral
    except immediate family, whoever is left. I don't want a memorial service
    or a church thing. I don't go to church; my parents never took us to
    church. If someone wants to throw a party to celebrate the fact that I'm
    gone, that's fine with me. But I don't expect my family to feed a bunch of
    people. It's simply not what we grew up with.

    Jill

  4. "MareCat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "MareCat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I've only ever been to two funerals -- one for a coworker who died of a
    heart attack at the age of 35, and one for a friend who died of stomach
    cancer at the age of 46. Everyone else who's ever been close to me is
    still living.

    That's amazing. My parents brought me to wakes and funerals when I was a
    little kid. Partly because they couldn't afford a sitter, partly because
    it wasn't all that unusual in our family for kids to attend, and I
    suppose it also was their attempt to explain death. But I went to a whole
    lot of wakes and funerals for aunts, uncles, friends of my parents,
    cousins. One grandparent (the only one still alive while I was) and I
    drove 900 miles for that one.

    My extended family all lived far away from us while I was growing up, so
    either just my mom or my dad attended the funerals of my grandparents.
    I've lost one aunt and one uncle in recent years, but I wasn't close to
    either of them, and so didn't make the trips across country to attend
    those funerals. And as amazing as it sounds, I don't remember my parents
    losing any of their friends while I was growing up.

    Mary

    Distance plays a part, for sure. Traveling across the country isn't very
    practical on short notice. Could be, too, that your parents didn't say much
    to you about people dying, where mine would bring me with.

    Donna

  5. "Old Mother Ashby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Sheldon said:

    Jewish funerals are the best... no food except maybe plain sponge cake,
    but everyone gets plastered to the gills on Fleishman's rye whiskey and
    Slivavitz.


    I think you'd need to get plastered. I've only ever been to one Jewish
    funeral, and I didn't go to anything afterwards (actually it was all
    terribly complicated, the deceased was gay and his parents wouldn't
    acknowledge his partner), but the funeral was just the bleakest I've ever
    been to, cold and comfortless both physically and ceremonially.

    By way of cheerng us up I am reminded of an allegedly Jewish joke that
    actually has universal application.

    The rabbi is on holiday and his locum has to do a funeral for a chap he's
    never met. Before the ceremony he approaches members of the congregation
    for information about the deceased so that he can run up a eulogy. Every
    comment is negative. Time's getting on so he has to proceed. Comes the
    appropriate moment and he asks the mourners "Does nobody have anything
    positive to say about this man?" After a minute an old guy in the back row
    raises his hand and says "His brother was worse!"

    Christine

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    MareCat said:


    I've only ever been to two funerals -- one for a coworker who died of a
    heart attack at the age of 35, and one for a friend who died of stomach
    cancer at the age of 46. Everyone else who's ever been close to me is
    still
    living.

    Consider yourself lucky. My parents used to take us to family funerals
    (great
    aunts and great uncles) from the time I was very young. I was a pall
    bearer at
    the funeral of my best friend who was killed in a motorcycle accident when
    I was
    14,

    At about that age, I went to my best friend's mother's funeral. I had spent
    the last year watching the woman die of breast cancer. Before that, I spent
    a lot of time at the house, and I always thought she was the nicest, most
    perfect mom ever.

    and again 4 months later for another friend who was killed in a car

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    accident. I hate funerals, but attendance is, IMO, a matter of doing the
    right
    thing, whether you like funerals or not.

    It's doing the right thing, up to a point. Some people manage to cause so
    much commotion at a wake or funeral that the family would be better off
    without them attending. I can recall a certain ex-husband and wife who
    nearly caused a brawl at one funeral, and another sister who wailed and
    cried and carried on at the loss of her brother so much that you'd think she
    lost her best and only true friend. Even though she hadn't found the time or
    energy to pick up the phone and call that brother for a good 10-15 years.
    The dramatics weren't appreciated by the family members who were truly
    mourning.

    And if someone is just naturally over-emotional or maybe has had a recent
    loss themselves and aren't under good emotional control, it might be better
    to skip the wake or funeral and send flowers or whatever.

    Aside from being flooded with old and

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    sad memories at funerals, the services themselves just [censored] me right off.
    Ministers always use the services as an opportunity to push their
    mythology and
    try to explain the their god has a reason for the person's death.

    Whoever is in charge of the wake/funeral gets input into the service. Or at
    least that's been my experience. If the deceased & family are very
    religious, the service is, too. If the family isn't all that religious (and
    if the minister is willing to go along with family wishes) the service ends
    up being more of a memorial and less of a religious service.

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    We attended a "dead spread" luncheon at the home of the 46-year-old
    friend's
    widow after the funeral. All of the close friends and family were asked
    to
    bring a dish to pass. I brought King Ranch Chicken and peach cobbler.
    Lots
    and lots of people attended, so there was *tons* of all sorts of food and
    copious amounts of alcohol.

    A few people in my wife's family have done memorial cocktail parties
    instead of
    funerals or wakes.

    A friend's brother's wake included buddies standing around the coffin doing
    shots. I wasn't there when it happened, but it was reported by several
    others who were there. I believe that at some point, the deceased also had a
    lit joint in his lips.

    Donna

  7. On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:36:39 GMT, projectile vomit chick

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:37:40 -0400, in rec.food.cooking, "Nancy Young"
    <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

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    My other SIL asked the reverend, he said, oh, we can do food.
    So, for free, absolutely free (of course I thought of Dave Smith's wife)
    they put out a bunch of food. I didn't take a very close look, but there
    were sandwiches from somewhere, a big platter of them, plenty of fruit
    and vegetable/dip platters. Kentucky Fried Chicken. A sheet cake and
    a homemade cheescake type thing, that was so very good. Soda/coffee.

    *slaps forehead*

    How tacky.

    What would *you* have served? ;-)

    Carol
    --

    Some people are like Slinkies... they don't really have a purpose but
    they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

    Stolen from "traid" on the IRC

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    projectile vomit chick said:

    On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:12:46 GMT, in rec.food.cooking, "Edwin
    Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

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    "projectile vomit chick" <[email hidden] > wrote in message

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    *slaps forehead*

    How tacky.

    Yeah, what were those good hearted people thinking? Before you attend a
    funeral, do you get a menu for the traditional meal afterwards first to see
    if you want to attend?

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    No, but I've never been to a funeral where KFC was served. Did they
    have checkered tablecloths on picnic tables with folding chairs and
    beer coolers, too?

    KFC in particular or fried chicken in general? Around here the Dead
    Spreads are generally sandwiches, bar cookies, fruit -- hotdish less
    frequently. A neighbor's mom died and the luncheon after her funeral
    service was a fried chicken dinner - slaw, spuds & gravy, beans -- the
    whole deal. Nice. It wasn't KFC but it could have been. Uncommon but
    not unusual.
    --
    -Barb
    <http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 4-20-2006 with our visit
    to Kramarczuk's.
    "If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

  9. "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "MareCat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    My extended family all lived far away from us while I was growing up, so
    either just my mom or my dad attended the funerals of my grandparents.
    I've lost one aunt and one uncle in recent years, but I wasn't close to
    either of them, and so didn't make the trips across country to attend
    those funerals. And as amazing as it sounds, I don't remember my parents
    losing any of their friends while I was growing up.

    Mary

    Distance plays a part, for sure. Traveling across the country isn't very
    practical on short notice. Could be, too, that your parents didn't say
    much to you about people dying, where mine would bring me with.

    There just weren't many funerals for them to attend back then (luckily). In
    fact, the vast majority of the friends my parents had while I was growing up
    are still alive today (ages ~ 60 - 70).

    Mary

  10. "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Aside from being flooded with old and

    Quoted message said:

    sad memories at funerals, the services themselves just [censored] me right off.
    Ministers always use the services as an opportunity to push their
    mythology and
    try to explain the their god has a reason for the person's death.

    Whoever is in charge of the wake/funeral gets input into the service. Or
    at least that's been my experience. If the deceased & family are very
    religious, the service is, too. If the family isn't all that religious
    (and if the minister is willing to go along with family wishes) the
    service ends up being more of a memorial and less of a religious service.

    At the memorial service for my friend who died of stomach cancer, family and
    close friends took turns standing up in front and talking about their
    experiences with him and how he touched their lives. His favorite songs
    played in the background throughout the service. He wasn't religious at all,
    so the service wasn't, either. No minister up there preaching. It was very,
    very nice.

    Mary

  11. Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "maxine in ri" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Barb was not clear. Send the CLO a check once you get/got home. When
    you're grieving, they're not gonna take your money.

    maxine in ri

    Whaddaya mean I wasn't clear? Her post was written in the past tense,
    my response was in the present tense. (Or does the if-then concept make
    it future?) *-)
    --
    -Barb

    Hey! Don't get all tense with me! Her response to your first post
    didn't seem to show comprehension of the situation, but as she has
    pointed out since, she knew what we both were talking about before we
    mentioned it.

    She's a nice lady, and whether or not you agree, so are you!

    maxine in ri

  12. jmcquown said:

    My parents will have an attendance, I'm sure, unless their friends die
    before they do. I'm pretty sure no one *will* bother to attend my funeral
    except immediate family, whoever is left. I don't want a memorial service
    or a church thing. I don't go to church; my parents never took us to
    church. If someone wants to throw a party to celebrate the fact that I'm
    gone, that's fine with me. But I don't expect my family to feed a bunch of
    people. It's simply not what we grew up with.

    Jill

    Funerals aren't so much for the dead as for the living. If you leave
    no one behind, be they relatives or friends, then there's no need for
    any kind of gathering.

    Different familys and cultures have different expectations for their
    dead. Yours sounds kind of cold and uncaring to me, but if it is what
    you are familiar with and comfortable with, that's certainly your
    right.

    My husband doesn't understand my desire to keep a kosher home, but he
    respects my right to do so.

    to each their own.
    maxine in ri

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MareCat said:

    "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Aside from being flooded with old and

    Quoted message said:

    sad memories at funerals, the services themselves just [censored] me right off.
    Ministers always use the services as an opportunity to push their
    mythology and
    try to explain the their god has a reason for the person's death.

    Whoever is in charge of the wake/funeral gets input into the service. Or
    at least that's been my experience. If the deceased & family are very
    religious, the service is, too. If the family isn't all that religious
    (and if the minister is willing to go along with family wishes) the
    service ends up being more of a memorial and less of a religious service.

    At the memorial service for my friend who died of stomach cancer, family and
    close friends took turns standing up in front and talking about their
    experiences with him and how he touched their lives. His favorite songs
    played in the background throughout the service. He wasn't religious at all,
    so the service wasn't, either. No minister up there preaching. It was very,
    very nice.

    If the person was religious, what's the problem with a religious
    service? You don't have to go.

    I've only been to a couple funerals, but when the person wasn't
    religious is when I snicker at the religious funeral. It wouldn't faze
    me to go to a non-relgious funeral, if that was how the person was, and
    I am pretty traditionally religious, so why does it get so many people's
    knickers in a knot to attend a religious one?

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  14. "MareCat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "MareCat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    My extended family all lived far away from us while I was growing up, so
    either just my mom or my dad attended the funerals of my grandparents.
    I've lost one aunt and one uncle in recent years, but I wasn't close to
    either of them, and so didn't make the trips across country to attend
    those funerals. And as amazing as it sounds, I don't remember my parents
    losing any of their friends while I was growing up.

    Mary

    Distance plays a part, for sure. Traveling across the country isn't very
    practical on short notice. Could be, too, that your parents didn't say
    much to you about people dying, where mine would bring me with.

    There just weren't many funerals for them to attend back then (luckily).
    In fact, the vast majority of the friends my parents had while I was
    growing up are still alive today (ages ~ 60 - 70).

    Mary

    My parents had me late in life, so they had older peers and friends. To be
    honest, I don't really know whose funerals we were going to when I was a
    kid. They all seemed to be relatives, but if I do a head count of my
    parents' siblings, most of them were still alive when I was a little older.
    Some did die when I was a kid, but not enough to account for all the wakes
    and funerals. But it was mostly always the same bunch of people who showed
    up for these things, so they must have been relatives of some sort.

    Donna

  15. "Ranee Mueller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    MareCat said:

    "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Aside from being flooded with old and
    > sad memories at funerals, the services themselves just [censored] me right
    > off.
    > Ministers always use the services as an opportunity to push their
    > mythology and
    > try to explain the their god has a reason for the person's death.

    Whoever is in charge of the wake/funeral gets input into the service.
    Or
    at least that's been my experience. If the deceased & family are very
    religious, the service is, too. If the family isn't all that religious
    (and if the minister is willing to go along with family wishes) the
    service ends up being more of a memorial and less of a religious
    service.

    At the memorial service for my friend who died of stomach cancer, family
    and
    close friends took turns standing up in front and talking about their
    experiences with him and how he touched their lives. His favorite songs
    played in the background throughout the service. He wasn't religious at
    all,
    so the service wasn't, either. No minister up there preaching. It was
    very,
    very nice.

    If the person was religious, what's the problem with a religious
    service? You don't have to go.

    I've only been to a couple funerals, but when the person wasn't
    religious is when I snicker at the religious funeral.

    I think some people do that because although the person wasn't religious,
    the people left behind are, and they want it done their way. Or, in some
    cases the funeral homes can contact a minister to do the service, and they
    might not have a clear picture of who the deceased was, so they go along
    with what the family wants rather than what the deceased might have
    preferred.

    And some people go the religious route because they think they have to.

    It wouldn't faze

    Quoted message said:

    me to go to a non-relgious funeral, if that was how the person was, and
    I am pretty traditionally religious, so why does it get so many people's
    knickers in a knot to attend a religious one?

    Doesn't bother me either way. The service is supposed to be a comfort for
    the close family. If the other people attending aren't of the same beliefs,
    it all might seem a little odd/disturbing/annoying, but the service is
    really for the family. Once I'm gone, whoever is left can do what they want
    that will make them happy.

    Donna

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    maxine in ri said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "maxine in ri" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Barb was not clear. Send the CLO a check once you get/got home. When
    you're grieving, they're not gonna take your money.

    maxine in ri

    Whaddaya mean I wasn't clear? Her post was written in the past tense,
    my response was in the present tense. (Or does the if-then concept make
    it future?) *-)
    --
    -Barb

    Hey! Don't get all tense with me! Her response to your first post
    didn't seem to show comprehension of the situation, but as she has
    pointed out since, she knew what we both were talking about before we
    mentioned it.

    She's a nice lady, and whether or not you agree, so are you!

    maxine in ri

    I was teasing you, Toots. Note the wink at the end.
    (And I'm not as nice as most people used to think.) :-)
    --
    -Barb
    <http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 4-20-2006 with our visit
    to Kramarczuk's.
    "If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

  17. "Ranee Mueller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    MareCat said:


    At the memorial service for my friend who died of stomach cancer, family
    and
    close friends took turns standing up in front and talking about their
    experiences with him and how he touched their lives. His favorite songs
    played in the background throughout the service. He wasn't religious at
    all,
    so the service wasn't, either. No minister up there preaching. It was
    very,
    very nice.

    If the person was religious, what's the problem with a religious
    service? You don't have to go.

    I've only been to a couple funerals, but when the person wasn't
    religious is when I snicker at the religious funeral. It wouldn't faze
    me to go to a non-relgious funeral, if that was how the person was, and
    I am pretty traditionally religious, so why does it get so many people's
    knickers in a knot to attend a religious one?

    I wouldn't have a problem attending a religious funeral, just as I've never
    had a problem attending a religious wedding or anything else, even though I
    am not religious. This particular service just seemed to fit my friend in so
    many ways. He was such a warm-hearted, wonderful person, and it really was
    such a nice tribute to him.

    OB Food: Cabbage rolls stuffed with ground beef and barley and served with
    roasted potatoes and salad for dinner tonight.

    Mary

  18. On Thu 27 Apr 2006 02:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it MareCat?

    Quoted message said:

    OB Food: Cabbage rolls stuffed with ground beef and barley and served
    with roasted potatoes and salad for dinner tonight.

    Mary

    And the recipe for those stuffed cabbage rolls, Mary? Sounds delicious!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
    _____________________

  19. "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 27 Apr 2006 02:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it MareCat?

    Quoted message said:

    OB Food: Cabbage rolls stuffed with ground beef and barley and served
    with roasted potatoes and salad for dinner tonight.

    Mary

    And the recipe for those stuffed cabbage rolls, Mary? Sounds delicious!

    No recipe, just ground beef, barley (uncooked), chopped onion, couple dashes
    of worchestershire, some pureed tomatoes, and s/p rolled in cabbage leaves
    and layered in a pot with roughly chopped cabbage and tomato sauce mixed
    with diced tomatoes, garlic, and seasonings. I usually simmer this in a
    Dutch oven, but today I crockpotted it. Turned out quite yummy.

    Mary

  20. On Thu 27 Apr 2006 09:15:39p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it MareCat?

    Quoted message said:

    "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu 27 Apr 2006 02:42:28p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
    MareCat?

    Quoted message said:

    OB Food: Cabbage rolls stuffed with ground beef and barley and served
    with roasted potatoes and salad for dinner tonight.

    Mary

    And the recipe for those stuffed cabbage rolls, Mary? Sounds
    delicious!

    No recipe, just ground beef, barley (uncooked), chopped onion, couple
    dashes of worchestershire, some pureed tomatoes, and s/p rolled in
    cabbage leaves and layered in a pot with roughly chopped cabbage and
    tomato sauce mixed with diced tomatoes, garlic, and seasonings. I
    usually simmer this in a Dutch oven, but today I crockpotted it. Turned
    out quite yummy.

    Mary

    Thanks, Mary. Would you use about the same amount of uncooked barley as
    uncooked rice? I'm looking forward to making this!

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    Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
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