My first Masters practice

Micheal Artindale said:

I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
so, today was the first practice.

Quoted message said:

There is a 99% chance I will join.

Quoted message said:

The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
was bearly able to do 1200m.

Quoted message said:

I learned a few things today...

Quoted message said:

1) My technique sucks.

Quoted message said:

2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.

Quoted message said:

3) a small change can make me faster
than I was.

Quoted message said:

My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
thing the coach had me change was to
reach further before putting my hand/arm
in the water. It actually felt as though I
worked less and went faster.

Quoted message said:

The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
go forward was hard work.

Quoted message said:

I am glad I went, and look forward to
going on a regular basis.

Quoted message said:

It was a humbling experience. I thought I
was better than I actually am.

What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?

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Micheal Artindale said:

I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
so, today was the first practice.

Quoted message said:

There is a 99% chance I will join.

Quoted message said:

The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
was bearly able to do 1200m.

Quoted message said:

I learned a few things today...

Quoted message said:

1) My technique sucks.

Quoted message said:

2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.

Quoted message said:

3) a small change can make me faster
than I was.

Quoted message said:

My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
thing the coach had me change was to
reach further before putting my hand/arm
in the water. It actually felt as though I
worked less and went faster.

Quoted message said:

The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
go forward was hard work.

Quoted message said:

I am glad I went, and look forward to
going on a regular basis.

Quoted message said:

It was a humbling experience. I thought I
was better than I actually am.

What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?

oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....

Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
happened.

Micheal

What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?

an excuse.

Micheal Artindale said:

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Micheal Artindale said:

I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
so, today was the first practice.

Quoted message said:

There is a 99% chance I will join.

Quoted message said:

The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
was bearly able to do 1200m.

Quoted message said:

I learned a few things today...

Quoted message said:

1) My technique sucks.

Quoted message said:

2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.

Quoted message said:

3) a small change can make me faster
than I was.

Quoted message said:

My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
thing the coach had me change was to
reach further before putting my hand/arm
in the water. It actually felt as though I
worked less and went faster.

Quoted message said:

The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
go forward was hard work.

Quoted message said:

I am glad I went, and look forward to
going on a regular basis.

Quoted message said:

It was a humbling experience. I thought I
was better than I actually am.

What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?

oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....

Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
happened.

e.g., You were a competitive swimmer for five years, and you were
"pretty good."

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Micheal Artindale said:

"Steve Curtis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Micheal Artindale said:

I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
so, today was the first practice.

Quoted message said:

There is a 99% chance I will join.

Quoted message said:

The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
was bearly able to do 1200m.

Quoted message said:

I learned a few things today...

Quoted message said:

1) My technique sucks.

Quoted message said:

2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.

Quoted message said:

3) a small change can make me faster
than I was.

Quoted message said:

My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
thing the coach had me change was to
reach further before putting my hand/arm
in the water. It actually felt as though I
worked less and went faster.

Quoted message said:

The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
go forward was hard work.

Quoted message said:

I am glad I went, and look forward to
going on a regular basis.

Quoted message said:

It was a humbling experience. I thought I
was better than I actually am.

What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?

oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....

Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
happened.

e.g., You were a competitive swimmer for five years, and you were "pretty
good."

Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was. A coach is a good
thing, concidering I have not had any formal swim lessons.

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

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Micheal Artindale said:

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"Micheal Artindale" wrote:

> I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
> so, today was the first practice.
> There is a 99% chance I will join.
> The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
> distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
> was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
> was bearly able to do 1200m.
> I learned a few things today...
> 1) My technique sucks.
> 2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.
> 3) a small change can make me faster
> than I was.
> My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
> thing the coach had me change was to
> reach further before putting my hand/arm
> in the water. It actually felt as though I
> worked less and went faster.
> The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
> go forward was hard work.
> I am glad I went, and look forward to
> going on a regular basis.
> It was a humbling experience. I thought I
> was better than I actually am.
What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?

oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....

Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
happened.

e.g., You were a competitive swimmer for five years, and you were "pretty
good."

Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.

Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.

Quoted message said:

A coach is a good
thing, concidering I have not had any formal swim lessons.

But you *were* a competitive swimmer for five year. And you *were*
pretty good.

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Quoted message said:

I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday, so, today was the first practice.

There is a 99% chance I will join.

The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3 distance levels, 2000m, 2500m,
3000m. I was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I was bearly able to do
1200m.

I learned a few things today...

1) My technique sucks.

2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.

3) a small change can make me faster than I was.

My front crawl is relitivly good. The only thing the coach had me change
was to reach further before putting my hand/arm in the water. It actually
felt as though I worked less and went faster.

The drills I did were a challenge. Just to go forward was hard work.

I am glad I went, and look forward to going on a regular basis.

It was a humbling experience. I thought I was better than I actually am.

Micheal

Sounds like you've joined the real world of swimming, and yes.... that is
usually a humbling experience. But it is a good one, so I say join the club
and go to every session you can get to. You'll improve and probably make
some like minded friends. Swimming will become a healthy recreation and part
of your social life instead of just a solitary dream. Good for you kid!

mwsmith said:

Micheal Artindale said:

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Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.

Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.

That depends on what he means by "how good/bad I was." If he's talking
about speed and endurance, then you're correct that that should have
been cleared up by looking at the clock and counting how many lengths he
swam, and comparing his performance to world record times. But if he's
talking about technique, that's the sort of thing people frequently
don't realize until they change it.

If you're not swimming as fast as Michael Phelps, there can ba any
number of explanations: You're older than he is, you're not as fit as
he is, you haven't trained as much as he has, your natural physiology
(height, wingspan, etc.) isn't as good. Some of these are things you
can't do anything about. Others are things you may expect to improve as
you continue to work out more and more.

But until a swimmer meets up with a coach who gets him to try changing a
seemingly minor aspect of his stroke, and sees the beneficial effects it
has on his speed and endurance, he often remains ignorant of how poor
his technique is and how much it is hindering his performance.

Bob

Robert W. McAdams said:

mwsmith said:

Micheal Artindale said:

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Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.

Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.

That depends on what he means by "how good/bad I was." If he's talking
about speed and endurance, then you're correct that that should have
been cleared up by looking at the clock and counting how many lengths he
swam, and comparing his performance to world record times. But if he's
talking about technique, that's the sort of thing people frequently
don't realize until they change it.

I can't imagine why I would make a technique change that didn't improve
my speed. Apparently Mich[ae]l has been enjoying swimming without speed
and endurance, since he has neither but continues to enjoy swimming. In
that case, technique isn't all that important, because the joy of
swimming is the reason for swimming. Besides, he has shown a video here
of himself swimming, and his technique is more than adequate. It might
not have been Micheaeaael in the video, though, since the swimmer in the
video was going faster than the three minutes per hundred meters he
claims is best pace.

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I can't imagine why I would make a technique change that didn't improve my
speed.

Martin

I can imagine it. I have made technique changes to help my shoulder
impingement and get rid of the rotator cuff pain.

Pat in TX

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Robert W. McAdams said:

mwsmith said:

Micheal Artindale wrote:

> "mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.

Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.

That depends on what he means by "how good/bad I was." If he's talking
about speed and endurance, then you're correct that that should have been
cleared up by looking at the clock and counting how many lengths he swam,
and comparing his performance to world record times. But if he's talking
about technique, that's the sort of thing people frequently don't realize
until they change it.

I can't imagine why I would make a technique change that didn't improve my
speed. Apparently Mich[ae]l has been enjoying swimming without speed and
endurance, since he has neither but continues to enjoy swimming. In that
case, technique isn't all that important, because the joy of swimming is
the reason for swimming. Besides, he has shown a video here of himself
swimming, and his technique is more than adequate. It might not have been
Micheaeaael in the video, though, since the swimmer in the video was going
faster than the three minutes per hundred meters he claims is best pace.

Those videos were of me swimming. They were unedited.

In the last 1.5 years I have not done as much swimming as in the previous
year. I suspect that is part of what has slowed me down.

If you remember, there are things that were mentioned to fix.

Another thing, and perrish the thought, You may not be the swim god you make
yourself out to be. My swimming in the videos could have been bad, yet you
could not tell because of your own inabilities.

All I know is that a small thing last night made a world of difference.

If you wish to watch the videos, give me your email address, and I will
email them, or, if you have facebook, I have them there.

Micheal

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Micheal Artindale said:

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Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "Steve Curtis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Micheal Artindale" wrote:
>
>> I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
>> so, today was the first practice.
>> There is a 99% chance I will join.
>> The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
>> distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
>> was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
>> was bearly able to do 1200m.
>> I learned a few things today...
>> 1) My technique sucks.
>> 2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.
>> 3) a small change can make me faster
>> than I was.
>> My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
>> thing the coach had me change was to
>> reach further before putting my hand/arm
>> in the water. It actually felt as though I
>> worked less and went faster.
>> The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
>> go forward was hard work.
>> I am glad I went, and look forward to
>> going on a regular basis.
>> It was a humbling experience. I thought I
>> was better than I actually am.
> What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?
>
> oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....
>
> Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
> happened.
e.g., You were a competitive swimmer for five years, and you were
"pretty good."

Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.

Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.

Quoted message said:

A coach is a good thing, concidering I have not had any formal swim
lessons.

But you *were* a competitive swimmer for five year. And you *were* pretty
good.

I was competing about 5 years ago.

Before joining up with this team, the only way I would gauge my swimming
abilities was by the lane I could be in. Most of the time, I was in the
meduim or fast lane. I now suspect those who swam there were not that good
either.

Everything is relitive to everything.

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

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Robert W. McAdams said:

mwsmith wrote:
> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>
>> "mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>>
>> Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.
> Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.
That depends on what he means by "how good/bad I was." If he's talking
about speed and endurance, then you're correct that that should have been
cleared up by looking at the clock and counting how many lengths he swam,
and comparing his performance to world record times. But if he's talking
about technique, that's the sort of thing people frequently don't realize
until they change it.

I can't imagine why I would make a technique change that didn't improve my
speed. Apparently Mich[ae]l has been enjoying swimming without speed and
endurance, since he has neither but continues to enjoy swimming. In that
case, technique isn't all that important, because the joy of swimming is
the reason for swimming. Besides, he has shown a video here of himself
swimming, and his technique is more than adequate. It might not have been
Micheaeaael in the video, though, since the swimmer in the video was going
faster than the three minutes per hundred meters he claims is best pace.

Those videos were of me swimming. They were unedited.

In the last 1.5 years I have not done as much swimming as in the previous
year. I suspect that is part of what has slowed me down.

If you remember, there are things that were mentioned to fix.

Another thing, and perrish the thought, You may not be the swim god you make
yourself out to be. My swimming in the videos could have been bad, yet you
could not tell because of your own inabilities.

Your swimming wasn't bad. I can't judge your stroke against mine, since
I can't see mine. I judge your stroke against the other swimmers I have
seen. There have been many.

Quoted message said:

All I know is that a small thing last night made a world of difference.

From what time before to what time after?

Quoted message said:

If you wish to watch the videos, give me your email address, and I will
email them, or, if you have facebook, I have them there.

Micheal

Micheal Artindale said:

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Micheal Artindale said:

"mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>> "Steve Curtis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> "Micheal Artindale" wrote:
>>
>>> I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
>>> so, today was the first practice.
>>> There is a 99% chance I will join.
>>> The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
>>> distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
>>> was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
>>> was bearly able to do 1200m.
>>> I learned a few things today...
>>> 1) My technique sucks.
>>> 2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.
>>> 3) a small change can make me faster
>>> than I was.
>>> My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
>>> thing the coach had me change was to
>>> reach further before putting my hand/arm
>>> in the water. It actually felt as though I
>>> worked less and went faster.
>>> The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
>>> go forward was hard work.
>>> I am glad I went, and look forward to
>>> going on a regular basis.
>>> It was a humbling experience. I thought I
>>> was better than I actually am.
>> What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?
>>
>> oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....
>>
>> Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
>> happened.
> e.g., You were a competitive swimmer for five years, and you were
> "pretty good."
Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.

Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.

Quoted message said:

A coach is a good thing, concidering I have not had any formal swim
lessons.

But you *were* a competitive swimmer for five year. And you *were* pretty
good.

I was competing about 5 years ago.

Before joining up with this team, the only way I would gauge my swimming
abilities was by the lane I could be in. Most of the time, I was in the
meduim or fast lane. I now suspect those who swam there were not that good
either.

Everything is relitive to everything.

If you were a competitive swimmer for five years, as recently as five
years ago, then you can gauge your swimming with your best times as a
competitive swimmer.

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Micheal Artindale said:

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Robert W. McAdams wrote:
> mwsmith wrote:
>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>
>>> "mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email hidden]...
>>>
>>> Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.
>> Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.
> That depends on what he means by "how good/bad I was." If he's talking
> about speed and endurance, then you're correct that that should have
> been cleared up by looking at the clock and counting how many lengths
> he swam, and comparing his performance to world record times. But if
> he's talking about technique, that's the sort of thing people
> frequently don't realize until they change it.
I can't imagine why I would make a technique change that didn't improve
my speed. Apparently Mich[ae]l has been enjoying swimming without speed
and endurance, since he has neither but continues to enjoy swimming. In
that case, technique isn't all that important, because the joy of
swimming is the reason for swimming. Besides, he has shown a video here
of himself swimming, and his technique is more than adequate. It might
not have been Micheaeaael in the video, though, since the swimmer in the
video was going faster than the three minutes per hundred meters he
claims is best pace.

Those videos were of me swimming. They were unedited.

In the last 1.5 years I have not done as much swimming as in the previous
year. I suspect that is part of what has slowed me down.

If you remember, there are things that were mentioned to fix.

Another thing, and perrish the thought, You may not be the swim god you
make yourself out to be. My swimming in the videos could have been bad,
yet you could not tell because of your own inabilities.

Your swimming wasn't bad. I can't judge your stroke against mine, since I
can't see mine. I judge your stroke against the other swimmers I have
seen. There have been many.

Quoted message said:

All I know is that a small thing last night made a world of difference.

From what time before to what time after?

From when I swam my first lap, to when I did my second lap.

Micheal

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Micheal Artindale wrote:
> "mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>> "Steve Curtis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email hidden]...
>>> "Micheal Artindale" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
>>>> so, today was the first practice.
>>>> There is a 99% chance I will join.
>>>> The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
>>>> distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
>>>> was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
>>>> was bearly able to do 1200m.
>>>> I learned a few things today...
>>>> 1) My technique sucks.
>>>> 2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.
>>>> 3) a small change can make me faster
>>>> than I was.
>>>> My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
>>>> thing the coach had me change was to
>>>> reach further before putting my hand/arm
>>>> in the water. It actually felt as though I
>>>> worked less and went faster.
>>>> The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
>>>> go forward was hard work.
>>>> I am glad I went, and look forward to
>>>> going on a regular basis.
>>>> It was a humbling experience. I thought I
>>>> was better than I actually am.
>>> What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?
>>>
>>> oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....
>>>
>>> Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
>>> happened.
>> e.g., You were a competitive swimmer for five years, and you were
>> "pretty good."
> Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.
Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.

> A coach is a good thing, concidering I have not had any formal swim
> lessons.
But you *were* a competitive swimmer for five year. And you *were*
pretty good.

I was competing about 5 years ago.

Before joining up with this team, the only way I would gauge my swimming
abilities was by the lane I could be in. Most of the time, I was in the
meduim or fast lane. I now suspect those who swam there were not that
good either.

Everything is relitive to everything.

If you were a competitive swimmer for five years, as recently as five
years ago, then you can gauge your swimming with your best times as a
competitive swimmer.

I wasnt fast. 50m Free in 45 sec.

Micheal

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Micheal Artindale said:

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> Robert W. McAdams wrote:
>> mwsmith wrote:
>>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>>
>>>> "mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email hidden]...
>>>>
>>>> Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.
>>> Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.
>> That depends on what he means by "how good/bad I was." If he's talking
>> about speed and endurance, then you're correct that that should have
>> been cleared up by looking at the clock and counting how many lengths
>> he swam, and comparing his performance to world record times. But if
>> he's talking about technique, that's the sort of thing people
>> frequently don't realize until they change it.
> I can't imagine why I would make a technique change that didn't improve
> my speed. Apparently Mich[ae]l has been enjoying swimming without speed
> and endurance, since he has neither but continues to enjoy swimming. In
> that case, technique isn't all that important, because the joy of
> swimming is the reason for swimming. Besides, he has shown a video here
> of himself swimming, and his technique is more than adequate. It might
> not have been Micheaeaael in the video, though, since the swimmer in the
> video was going faster than the three minutes per hundred meters he
> claims is best pace.
Those videos were of me swimming. They were unedited.

In the last 1.5 years I have not done as much swimming as in the previous
year. I suspect that is part of what has slowed me down.

If you remember, there are things that were mentioned to fix.

Another thing, and perrish the thought, You may not be the swim god you
make yourself out to be. My swimming in the videos could have been bad,
yet you could not tell because of your own inabilities.

Your swimming wasn't bad. I can't judge your stroke against mine, since I
can't see mine. I judge your stroke against the other swimmers I have
seen. There have been many.

Quoted message said:

All I know is that a small thing last night made a world of difference.

From what time before to what time after?

From when I swam my first lap, to when I did my second lap.

So there was no difference.

Micheal Artindale said:

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> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>> "mwsmith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>>>> "Steve Curtis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email hidden]...
>>>> "Micheal Artindale" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was duty on board my ship on Tuesday,
>>>>> so, today was the first practice.
>>>>> There is a 99% chance I will join.
>>>>> The practices are 1 hr long. They have 3
>>>>> distance levels, 2000m, 2500m, 3000m. I
>>>>> was in the 2000m lane. Unfortunatly, I
>>>>> was bearly able to do 1200m.
>>>>> I learned a few things today...
>>>>> 1) My technique sucks.
>>>>> 2) I dont know any drills for any strokes.
>>>>> 3) a small change can make me faster
>>>>> than I was.
>>>>> My front crawl is relitivly good. The only
>>>>> thing the coach had me change was to
>>>>> reach further before putting my hand/arm
>>>>> in the water. It actually felt as though I
>>>>> worked less and went faster.
>>>>> The drills I did were a challenge. Just to
>>>>> go forward was hard work.
>>>>> I am glad I went, and look forward to
>>>>> going on a regular basis.
>>>>> It was a humbling experience. I thought I
>>>>> was better than I actually am.
>>>> What accounts for the 1% chance that you won't join?
>>>>
>>>> oops, I forgot to say that there is a acuracy with that of 10%....
>>>>
>>>> Realy though, I cannot think of a reason, but, stranger things have
>>>> happened.
>>> e.g., You were a competitive swimmer for five years, and you were
>>> "pretty good."
>> Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.
> Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.
>
>> A coach is a good thing, concidering I have not had any formal swim
>> lessons.
> But you *were* a competitive swimmer for five year. And you *were*
> pretty good.
>
I was competing about 5 years ago.

Before joining up with this team, the only way I would gauge my swimming
abilities was by the lane I could be in. Most of the time, I was in the
meduim or fast lane. I now suspect those who swam there were not that
good either.

Everything is relitive to everything.

If you were a competitive swimmer for five years, as recently as five
years ago, then you can gauge your swimming with your best times as a
competitive swimmer.

I wasnt fast. 50m Free in 45 sec.

And now, after you made one little change that made a world of difference?

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>>>> Micheal Artindale wrote:
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>>>>> Until today, I didnt realize just how good/bad I was.
>>>> Reading the clock always cleared that up for me.
>>> That depends on what he means by "how good/bad I was." If he's
>>> talking about speed and endurance, then you're correct that that
>>> should have been cleared up by looking at the clock and counting how
>>> many lengths he swam, and comparing his performance to world record
>>> times. But if he's talking about technique, that's the sort of thing
>>> people frequently don't realize until they change it.
>> I can't imagine why I would make a technique change that didn't
>> improve my speed. Apparently Mich[ae]l has been enjoying swimming
>> without speed and endurance, since he has neither but continues to
>> enjoy swimming. In that case, technique isn't all that important,
>> because the joy of swimming is the reason for swimming. Besides, he
>> has shown a video here of himself swimming, and his technique is more
>> than adequate. It might not have been Micheaeaael in the video,
>> though, since the swimmer in the video was going faster than the three
>> minutes per hundred meters he claims is best pace.
> Those videos were of me swimming. They were unedited.
>
> In the last 1.5 years I have not done as much swimming as in the
> previous year. I suspect that is part of what has slowed me down.
>
> If you remember, there are things that were mentioned to fix.
>
> Another thing, and perrish the thought, You may not be the swim god you
> make yourself out to be. My swimming in the videos could have been bad,
> yet you could not tell because of your own inabilities.
Your swimming wasn't bad. I can't judge your stroke against mine, since
I can't see mine. I judge your stroke against the other swimmers I have
seen. There have been many.

> All I know is that a small thing last night made a world of difference.
From what time before to what time after?

From when I swam my first lap, to when I did my second lap.

So there was no difference.

The coach stopped me after my first lap. Corrected my stroke, then the
second lap, I did what he said, and moved faster with less effort.

Micheal