My Left Knee

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I found out yesterday that I don't even need a referral. I called an
orthopedic surgeon. I have an appointment for Tuesday morning. We
switched insurance plans this year. I was not aware of the difference.
You'd think I'd know this stuff since I work in a hospital. So I
wasted
a few weeks screwing around at with my old doctor's office. As it
turns
out, I already know this OS, since I helped him setup his office PC
for
signing off charts electronically. The best part about this doc is
that
he's a runner. His office looked much like mine, with shoes and
running
shorts tossed in one corner. :-) So I'm looking forward to finally
getting a real diagnosis.

Keep us/me posted!!!!! I want you back to [censored] how shiity you feel
after an ultra. 😉

-Doug

Phil M. said:

I found out yesterday that I don't even need a referral. I called an
orthopedic surgeon. I have an appointment for Tuesday morning. We
switched insurance plans this year. I was not aware of the difference.
You'd think I'd know this stuff since I work in a hospital. So I wasted
a few weeks screwing around at with my old doctor's office. As it turns
out, I already know this OS, since I helped him setup his office PC for
signing off charts electronically. The best part about this doc is that
he's a runner. His office looked much like mine, with shoes and running
shorts tossed in one corner. :-) So I'm looking forward to finally
getting a real diagnosis.

In the mean time, I'm riding my new exercise bike and lifting weights to
keep my sanity. Another positive note is that I'm missing some god-awful
running weather .

--
Phil M.

[censored].

Doug Freese said:

Keep us/me posted!!!!! I want you back to [censored] how shiity you feel
after an ultra. 😉

I'll see what I can do. ;-) Feeling [censored] after an ultra sounds
pretty good right now.

Phil M. said:

. . . I called an
orthopedic surgeon. I have an appointment for Tuesday morning. . .
. . . The best part about this doc is that
he's a runner. . . .

A kindred spirit is a good thing. My ortho doc runs, and after his
line about "Let your comfort level be your guide" he read me the riot
act about how if I thought I was going to just be a runner and "run
through the pain" on this one I was way wrong. "If you do that I'll
see you again in a couple of months and we'll have to cut you open and
put a pin in it" or something like that -- a salutory dose of Fear!

Good luck Phil! Let us know what happens.
--
Daniel ( [email hidden] )

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I found out yesterday that I don't even need a referral. I called an
orthopedic surgeon. I have an appointment for Tuesday morning. We
switched insurance plans this year. I was not aware of the difference.
You'd think I'd know this stuff since I work in a hospital. So I wasted
a few weeks screwing around at with my old doctor's office. As it turns
out, I already know this OS, since I helped him setup his office PC for
signing off charts electronically. The best part about this doc is that
he's a runner. His office looked much like mine, with shoes and running
shorts tossed in one corner. :-) So I'm looking forward to finally
getting a real diagnosis.

Good deal Phil, hope you obtain a positve path to recovery soon!

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In the mean time, I'm riding my new exercise bike and lifting weights to
keep my sanity. Another positive note is that I'm missing some god-awful
running weather .

But here you're killing me! Indoor exercise bike? Well, I can understand it
if you don't have a good place to ride, and there is the heat outside in
Georgia. My area has some good rides, but the traffic is really too busy on
most roads, and most are very hilly. About 1/2 my bike rides I end up
spinning around a naturally scenic lake (VERY lucky to live near it) that
also sports fitness walkers, runners, bikers and roller bladers, with plenty
of the female species. Biking is the perfect speed to take in all the
natural sights.

-Tony

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Phil M.

Phil M. said:

I found out yesterday that I don't even need a referral. I called an
orthopedic surgeon. I have an appointment for Tuesday morning. We
switched insurance plans this year. I was not aware of the difference.
You'd think I'd know this stuff since I work in a hospital. So I wasted
a few weeks screwing around at with my old doctor's office. As it turns
out, I already know this OS, since I helped him setup his office PC for
signing off charts electronically. The best part about this doc is that
he's a runner. His office looked much like mine, with shoes and running
shorts tossed in one corner. :-) So I'm looking forward to finally
getting a real diagnosis.

I had my appointment today. The doc was great. He expressed genuine
concern for me not being able to run. He asked what I thought the
problem was and he actually listened to my answer. He moved my leg
around a bit to see which movement made it hurt. What hurt was when he
pushed on the inside of me knee and ankle. He didn't have to ask if it
hurt. My cries were sufficient. After that he said, "We need to get
you an MRI. Now!" So I got an mri this afternoon. Definitely met my
decuctuble after that.

--
Phil M.

Phil said:

The doc was great.

Hey Phil, that's terrific. Not that you're still in pain of course,
but that you found a doc who gets it. Of the couple I've tried for
running injuries, neither is worth a return visit.

Best of luck on your diagnosis, treatment, and getting healed up
ASAP. I'd rather read about your running adventures here than your
injuries.

P.S. Given the thread title, should we expect a film of your life
story starring Daniel Day-Lewis any time soon?

Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was hoping
for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

--
Phil M.

Phil M. said:

Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was hoping
for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

Oh, hope it gets better. How did it happen?

--
Christos Dimitrakakis
Homepage: http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/main.html
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"Phil M." wrote
| Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
| meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was hoping
| for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

You had diagnosed it correctly and now have a proof. 🙂
Is that a partial tear or complete?
Wish you a fast recovery.

I2Run said:

"Phil M." wrote
| Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
| meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was hoping
| for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

You had diagnosed it correctly and now have a proof. 🙂
Is that a partial tear or complete?
Wish you a fast recovery.

Exact wording of Radiologist's report, "Irregular degenerative tear at
the posterior horn of the medial meniscus."

Doc said I'd be running again.

--
Phil M.

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I2Run said:

"Phil M." wrote
| Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
| meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was
hoping
| for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

You had diagnosed it correctly and now have a proof. 🙂
Is that a partial tear or complete?
Wish you a fast recovery.

Exact wording of Radiologist's report, "Irregular degenerative tear at
the posterior horn of the medial meniscus."

Doc said I'd be running again.

How soon? Like, can they sew it back into place and get you back on your
feet within a few days?

This is great news Phil; I know you'll keep us posted.

-Tony

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Phil M.

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was
hoping
for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

--
Phil M.

Good luck on a full recovery.
You seem disciplined,detailed and smart based on your training reports so
I'm surprised to see you suffer a major injury.
I guess genetics and bad luck has more to do with it than I think.
A friend who is a very talented runner has had both knees scoped over the
past year and a half.
She has the form of a gazelle as opposed to my Daffy Duck imitation, but my
knees have never bothered me.
Go figure.

Parker

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was
hoping
for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

Good luck with the surgery Phil.

I think that it's a relief to get a definitive prognosis, and
know exactly where the problem is and what needs to be done.

Hope to "see you" back out on the run quickly.

Anthony.

Phil M. said:

I2Run said:

"Phil M." wrote
| Had my OS appointment this afternoon. Bottom line is it's a torn medial
| meniscus. I'm scheduled for arthroscopic surgery on August 27. I was hoping
| for sooner, but I'm happy to finally be on the road to recovery. ;-)

You had diagnosed it correctly and now have a proof. 🙂
Is that a partial tear or complete?
Wish you a fast recovery.

Exact wording of Radiologist's report, "Irregular degenerative tear at
the posterior horn of the medial meniscus."

Doc said I'd be running again.

Phil,

Good news that you've got a good diagnosis now, bad news that it'll take
surgery, good news that you *will* be running again.

Good luck.

Dot

--
"Success is different things to different people"
-Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

I had the surgery this morning for torn medial meniscus. Everything went
well. Just feeling a little nauseous right now. Here are some pics. They
refused to let me wear my Forerunner in the OR, so this is all I have. ;-)

Before - http://i15.tinypic.com/4zatoix.jpg
After - http://i19.tinypic.com/54kkj2g.jpg

A few nurses commented on my low pulse. They were a little concerned until
the OS, who is also a runner, told them why it was so low. Made my day. :-)
Now for some serious recovery.

--
Phil

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I had the surgery this morning for torn medial meniscus. Everything went
well. Just feeling a little nauseous right now. Here are some pics. They
refused to let me wear my Forerunner in the OR, so this is all I have. ;-)

Before - http://i15.tinypic.com/4zatoix.jpg
After - http://i19.tinypic.com/54kkj2g.jpg

A few nurses commented on my low pulse. They were a little concerned until
the OS, who is also a runner, told them why it was so low. Made my day.
:-)
Now for some serious recovery.

--
Phil

Best of luck. Thanks for the peepshow - looks workable now.

-Tony

Phil M. said:

I had the surgery this morning for torn medial meniscus. Everything went
well. Just feeling a little nauseous right now. Here are some pics. They
refused to let me wear my Forerunner in the OR, so this is all I have. ;-)

Before - http://i15.tinypic.com/4zatoix.jpg
After - http://i19.tinypic.com/54kkj2g.jpg

A few nurses commented on my low pulse. They were a little concerned until
the OS, who is also a runner, told them why it was so low. Made my day. :-)
Now for some serious recovery.

Looks like an improvement. Good luck with your recovery. Have they given
you any time frame and PT for rehab and return to running?

Dot

--
"Success is different things to different people"
-Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

Phil M. said:

I had the surgery this morning for torn medial meniscus. Everything went
well. Just feeling a little nauseous right now. Here are some pics. They
refused to let me wear my Forerunner in the OR, so this is all I have. ;-)

Before - http://i15.tinypic.com/4zatoix.jpg
After - http://i19.tinypic.com/54kkj2g.jpg

A few nurses commented on my low pulse. They were a little concerned until
the OS, who is also a runner, told them why it was so low. Made my day. :-)
Now for some serious recovery.

Wishing you the best of luck! I won't say "speedy" recovery -- just
best recovery possible!

Pics looked not quite from same angle, but am I to understand that
there was a broken bit of gristle that was... what? Causing pressure
back on a nerve somewhere because it was tweaking the bearing surface
at wrong angle? So once it's gone you're back to learning how to be
balanced and graceful as you negotiate roots in trails? :-)

(Geez it's amazing these bodies work as well as they do as long as
they do under any circumstances.)

Pulling for you from way over here on the left coast,
--
Daniel ( [email hidden] )