My New Bike

Andre

It's look like a really sharp bike for $2250 and I love the color

Cheers and happy ridin

powin

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"Andrew Swan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I can't resist posting some pics of my new bike (named Italian Boy after
the frame's country of origin):

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~andrewswan/sport/italian_boy

WOW! I LOVE that frame!
The first shot isn't blue.. it's ---> !!! BLUE !!!! <--- ;-)

Now you just need to get blue pedals, blue bidon and one
of those blue Flite saddles (hopefully not a squeeker! ;-)).
<http://www.cycletechinc.com/jpg4/sadblu2.jpg>
<http://www.cambriabike.com/saddles/images/selle_italia_flite_gel_blu_03.jpg

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Oh, you HAVE to cut that fork steerer down man.. thinking
about doing a superman over that and hitting a rather
delicate part of the body on the way over the bars
makes me cringe. ;-)

Looking at the seat height and stem length - are you
pretty tall or is it a smallish frame?

Very sexy wheel/tyre combo and the fact that you built it up
yourself and it's so clean makes me very jealous :-)

hippy

hippy said:

The first shot isn't blue.. it's ---> !!! BLUE !!!! <--- ;-)

Paradiso Blue, apparently. Although if you look closely you'll see there
are two blues (dark round the outside, light round the inside), so I'm
not sure which one is Paradiso...

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Now you just need to get blue pedals, blue bidon and one
of those blue Flite saddles (hopefully not a squeeker! ;-)).
<http://www.cycletechinc.com/jpg4/sadblu2.jpg>
<http://www.cambriabike.com/saddles/images/selle_italia_flite_gel_blu_03.jpg

My club colours are red and blue, so I had to have *some* red in there! ;-)

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Oh, you HAVE to cut that fork steerer down man.. thinking
about doing a superman over that and hitting a rather
delicate part of the body on the way over the bars
makes me cringe. ;-)

There's even *more* protruding now that I've lowered the bars! I'll cut
it to size once I've ridden it some more and finalised my bar height. In
the meantime I'll ride like my future kids' lives depend on it.

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Looking at the seat height and stem length - are you
pretty tall or is it a smallish frame?

It's a sloping top tube to start with, plus it's a 57cm frame and I
would normally take a 58, but the next size up was a 60 and I figured
better to be 1cm too small and use longer seat post and stem than go 2cm
too big and struggle for a good fit. Yes, I'm reasonably tall at 187.5.
I had to buy a special seat post as most of the road ones I saw were too
short.

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Very sexy wheel/tyre combo and the fact that you built it up
yourself and it's so clean makes me very jealous :-)

Ah, your envy has made my day! :-)

&roo

"Andrew Swan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The first shot isn't blue.. it's ---> !!! BLUE !!!! <--- ;-)

Paradiso Blue, apparently. Although if you look closely you'll see there
are two blues (dark round the outside, light round the inside), so I'm
not sure which one is Paradiso...

Ahh yes.. I didn't even notice. I think I might've assumed it
was just bright sun on the tops of the frame tubes.

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Now you just need to get blue pedals, blue bidon and one
of those blue Flite saddles (hopefully not a squeeker! ;-)).
<http://www.cycletechinc.com/jpg4/sadblu2.jpg>

<http://www.cambriabike.com/saddles/images/selle_italia_flite_gel_blu_03.jpg

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My club colours are red and blue, so I had to have *some* red in there!

;-)

Bah, bike [censored]-factor should always come before club loyalty! ;-)
Tell you what - blue pedals and saddle and I'll let you have a red
bidon cage - deal? <cackles like the sleep deprived fool he is>

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There's even *more* protruding now that I've lowered the bars! I'll cut
it to size once I've ridden it some more and finalised my bar height. In
the meantime I'll ride like my future kids' lives depend on it.

hehe! To obtain a high BPF (bike [censored] factor), all unecessary objects
must be removed from the bike. This includes: handlebar baskets,
handlebar tassles, spokey-dokeys, bells, flags and excess steerer tube.

This requirement is null and void for singlespeeders - in this case, tassles
and spokey-dokeys are required by law. ;-)

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It's a sloping top tube to start with, plus it's a 57cm frame and I
would normally take a 58, but the next size up was a 60 and I figured
better to be 1cm too small and use longer seat post and stem than go 2cm
too big and struggle for a good fit. Yes, I'm reasonably tall at 187.5.
I had to buy a special seat post as most of the road ones I saw were too
short.

Sounds totally reasonable.. you may pass.
What sort of seatpost is that, btw?
While I'm being all curious.. how do you pronounce Fondriest?
"fondreest", "fond-re-est", "fondrist, etc?

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Very sexy wheel/tyre combo and the fact that you built it up
yourself and it's so clean makes me very jealous :-)

Ah, your envy has made my day! :-)

I am genuinely impressed! You should be happy that my
bike has just been forced into early retirement..

For the curiouser:
http://www.fondriestbici.com/
http://www.fondriest-usa.com/index.php

Check out the Carbon DFC or Domino Carbon models
with "Woman Body" paint option! The Tracy Car paint
looks cool too... Fondriest really know their paint!

I'm still keen on a Cervelo frameset hanging in my
LBS that just happens to be my size...
http://www.cervelo.com/images/2003/2003-SLteam-full.jpg

hippy

Andrew Swan said:

Hi All,
I can't resist posting some pics of my new bike (named Italian Boy after
the frame's country of origin):
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~andrewswan/sport/italian_boyhttp://membe-
rs.ozemail.com.au/~andrewswan/sport/italian_boy
Bought the frame (Al), fork (CF), and headset (FSA) new as a set from
eBay (a UK-based shop). Bought the wheels used from eBay (have about
4000km on them apparently). Bought the groupset and tyres mail order
from Parker UK. Moved the saddle, computer, and pedals across from my
old road bike (Giant Peloton 7000, CroMoly frame). Bought the stem and
bars new from eBay (different sellers). Bought the rest (bar tape,
computer cable, seat post, tubes, cable sleeves) from the LBS.
It took me a few evenings to put it all together. I had some drama
setting the rear derailleur angle (had to remove the adjusting screw and
turn it around) and fitting the headset to the fork (which I had to file
down), but in the end I am glad I did it all myself.
It cost me about $2250 all up (inc. shipping, duty, and GST), weighs
about 9.5kg (cf. my last bike
= 11.5kg).
Rode it today for the first time, very happy with it once I sorted out a
few clicking and grinding noises from the gears! Ultegra feels so smooth
and positive after RSX (a discontinued range that sits somewhere below
the current 105). People told me an Al frame would feel harsh after
steel, but I didn't notice anything bad. The weirdest part is having
wider bars than before (to match my shoulder width better) - it feels
really open instead of hunched.
The handling feels different as well - I think my old bike was too small
for me, and once I get used to the new bike, I think it's going to feel
a lot more natural and balanced than before.
Can't wait to unleash it on my unsuspecting clubmates on race day...!
&roo
P.S. No more bikes now - the garage wall is full!

Andrew:

Wow! That's one kool (cool blue) bike. Nice taste in choosin
component colours

Just a little suggestion, if you don't mind. I hope you're planning t
cut that steerer tube to size. It's look is a turn off. But that's me

Cheers, Amir

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Andrew Swan said:

P.S. No more bikes now - the garage wall is full!

Very nice kit for $2250, well worth the DIY fiddling. Whatdoya mea
about the beloved being stoved in the GARAGE! Should be at least in th
front room or hallway.:

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hippy said:

I'm still keen on a Cervelo frameset hanging in my
LBS that just happens to be my size...
http://www.cervelo.com/images/2003/2003-SLteam-full.jpg

hippy

Surely you could source some red wheels and bar tape to go with it? :-)

&roo

cfsmtb said:

Very nice kit for $2250, well worth the DIY fiddling. Whatdoya mean
about the beloved being stoved in the GARAGE! Should be at least in the
front room or hallway.:p

I was going to hang it on the living room wall, but:

1. I'd have to get the lounge suite re-upholstered in blue.
2. It'd be the only original artwork in the room.
3. I'd never be able to concentrate on the TV.
4. <insert your own reason here, best entry wins absolutely nothing>

P.S. "Italian Boy" had his first race today, a 43km ITT. He went
flawlessly (wish I could say the same for me).

&roo

"Andrew Swan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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hippy said:

I'm still keen on a Cervelo frameset hanging in my
LBS that just happens to be my size...
http://www.cervelo.com/images/2003/2003-SLteam-full.jpg

Surely you could source some red wheels and bar tape to go with it? :-)

Mick only has the frameset, so everything else would be
my choice. Definately wouldn't be using those Shimano
wheels and I already have a nice red Flite saddle. Red
bar tape for sure - the Peugeot's red tape needs replacing,
while I'm thinking about it. Call me crazy, but I think
pedals would help too ;-) Actually, 'road' pedals are STILL
on the cards for the Peugeot.. one day...

I must say though, after seeing those Fondriest frames,
I'm drooling at the thought of some gnarly graphics like
they offer. I also have a desire for something more
exotic, say Carbon or Ti or even NFS (new fangled steel).

Combined with a new SS, a duallie, the 17-40mm and
the 200mm lenses and general living expenses, which are
not so general when you see what I eat! - the new road
bike could be a LONG way off.

hippy

G'day Andrew

have just seen the pics of your new ride.........I'm absolutel
disgusted with you!.......You call yourself a 'rider'.....I think yo
need to reassess things buddy!......imagine being a hardcore roadie
having a garden as neat as that!!!!!.......gardening weather is als
'ridin' weather...so what gives?.......I would do something in my bac
yard.....But it would upset the 'greenies' to much! (old growth forest
& all that)...I think its actually been listed as a world heritag
'wilderness' area!!

seriously, though, I like your ride...but the state of your yard i
disappointing!

cheers

Hitch

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amirm said:

Andrew:
Wow! That's one kool (cool blue) bike. Nice taste in choosing
component colours.
Just a little suggestion, if you don't mind. I hope you're planning to
cut that steerer tube to size. It's look is a turn off. But that's me.
Cheers, Amir.

More to the point could convert you into the 'Italian Eunich' if things
go awry!!!!!!!!!!

lovely looking bike tho

pity about all that ShimaNO stuff on an italian bike tho...

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Hitchy said:

seriously, though, I like your ride...but the state of your yard is
disappointing!,

If you think my time in the garden is wasted, just think about the time
I waste maintaining the web site that's dedicated to it:

http://www.cp.nsw.gov.au

:-)

&roo

flyingdutch said:

More to the point could convert you into the 'Italian Eunich' if things
go awry!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I'll be cutting it down, before anyone else reminds me (see hippy's
responses, etc.)!

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lovely looking bike tho

Thanks!

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pity about all that ShimaNO stuff on an italian bike tho...

My motto is "never install a groupset that sounds like a pasta sauce".

&roo

Andrew Swan said:

flyingdutch wrote:

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pity about all that ShimaNO stuff on an italian bike tho...

My motto is "never install a groupset that sounds like a pasta sauce".

So the guy I know who fits DuraAce 10 speed to replace his DuraAce 9
speed and then tries Record for a week and says "That's OK, but I
think I prefer the DuraAce" and then goes back to his DuraAce bike and
after a week swears that he'll get back to Record ASAP is all wrong?

I think not :-)

BTW, we are talking reasonable bikes here. Look KG381 with DuraAce and
Colnago C50 with Record 2004. Those carbon cranks look very pretty :-)

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Regards.
Richard.

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pity about all that ShimaNO stuff on an italian bike tho...

My motto is "never install a groupset that sounds like a pasta sauce".

hehehe! I tried my mate's Chorus setup and found it
strange. I do not like where the down-push levers are
on the sides of the brake hoods. I can't remember
which way it changed the gears, but I remember
thinking if I was sprinting, I'd have to be on the hoods
to change up - does that sound right?
I like the ability to trim the front derr. in multiple
positions.
It was only a 10 minute test on an awkward bike, but I
will stick with Shimano until I have a good amount of
time playing with Campag and then decide if I want to
go with the Italian manufacturer.
Price-wise I think Shimano wins, don't they?

hippy

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hehehe! I tried my mate's Chorus setup and found it strange. I do not
like where the down-push levers are on the sides of the brake hoods. I
can't remember which way it changed the gears, but I remember thinking
if I was sprinting, I'd have to be on the hoods to change up - does that
sound right? I like the ability to trim the front derr. in multiple
positions. It was only a 10 minute test on an awkward bike, but I will
stick with Shimano until I have a good amount of time playing with
Campag and then decide if I want to go with the Italian manufacturer.
Price-wise I think Shimano wins, don't they?
hippy

you can trim a front derailleur on campy Far cheaper in the long run a
it lasts longer (shimano wears out, campag wears in LOL) and CHorus i
equivalent if not better than DA with pricing cheaper The lowe
groupsets are (105 down) appalling too in terms of build and the amoun
of plastic and incompatabilit

there, that should fire the thread up a bit..

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"flyingdutch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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hehehe! I tried my mate's Chorus setup and found it strange. I do not
like where the down-push levers are on the sides of the brake hoods. I
can't remember which way it changed the gears, but I remember thinking
if I was sprinting, I'd have to be on the hoods to change up - does

that

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sound right? I like the ability to trim the front derr. in multiple
positions. It was only a 10 minute test on an awkward bike, but I will
stick with Shimano until I have a good amount of time playing with
Campag and then decide if I want to go with the Italian manufacturer.
Price-wise I think Shimano wins, don't they?
hippy

you can trim a front derailleur on campy

I know. You can do the same on my Ultegra, but the Campy has
more positions, I think.

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Far cheaper in the long run as it lasts longer (shimano wears out, campag

I've skimmed threads on this topic before, but how true is this?
Any Shimano users wanna debate this for me? :-)

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wears in LOL) and CHorus is equivalent if not better than DA with pricing

Why does it compare with DA? What's so special?
Compared with Ultegra it's more expensive...

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cheaper The lower groupsets are (105 down) appalling too in terms of
build and the amount of plastic and incompatability

Campag Xenon looks a bit plasticy...is it?
105 incompatible with what?

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there, that should fire the thread up a bit...

Okay... fight! fight! fight! ;-)

Oh, I prefer the Shimano hoods and doesn't the Campag
importer here have a monopoly so spare parts are slow to
arrive and expensive?

hippy