We had this discussion in the ng of the below recently. Just one of the boys in the choir, "I'm ok you are ok and all of us in the choir telling each other we are ok is; well er ah OK". This from another ng: "The benefits, or otherwise, of using Naturopaths was discussed recently here. Just one recent local example: Naturopath gets five years for baby's deadly treatment http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/02/13/1076548205730.html Of course, he can't serve the sentence because he has cancer. "Physician", heal thyself?"