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  1. A coworker of mine was leaving to go to a new job in
    another state last week and gave me about 7 or 8 pounds of
    venison steaks. I don't much about them except that they
    are frozen, wrapped in butcher paper and just say steak on
    the outside. Some are small and some are large, so I
    suspect they an assortment of steak varieties. I've never
    tried cooking venison before, so I'm not sure what to do
    with them. I've heard that venison is lean and can be dry,
    so I'm thinking of marinating them for a few hours and
    grilling them on my George Foreman style grill or pan
    frying them. If I had a barbecue or hibachi, I'd try that,
    but I don't have access to one.

    If anyone has any good recipes or marinades for venison
    steaks or techniques for keeping them juicy, I'd love to
    hear them. Thanks.

    Sumbuddy

  2. "Sumbuddy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A coworker of mine was leaving to go to a new job in
    another state last week and gave me about 7 or 8 pounds of
    venison steaks. I don't much about them except that they
    are frozen, wrapped in butcher paper and just say steak on
    the outside. Some are small and some are large, so I
    suspect they an assortment of steak varieties. I've never
    tried cooking venison before, so I'm not sure what to do
    with them. I've heard that venison is lean and can be dry,
    so I'm thinking of marinating them for a few hours and


    grilling

    Quoted message said:

    them on my George Foreman style grill or pan frying them.
    If I had a barbecue or hibachi, I'd try that, but I don't
    have access to one.

    If anyone has any good recipes or marinades for venison
    steaks or techniques for keeping them juicy, I'd love to
    hear them. Thanks.

    Sumbuddy

    Try cook on a grill. I use a marinade made of soy
    sauce, brown mustard, garlic clove minced and I cook
    the steaks with a raw onion atop the steak-takes the
    gaminess right out.

  3. Sumbuddy said:

    A coworker of mine was leaving to go to a new job in
    another state last week and gave me about 7 or 8 pounds of
    venison steaks. I don't much about them except that they
    are frozen, wrapped in butcher paper and just say steak on
    the outside. Some are small and some are large, so I
    suspect they an assortment of steak varieties. I've never
    tried cooking venison before, so I'm not sure what to do
    with them. I've heard that venison is lean and can be dry,
    so I'm thinking of marinating them for a few hours and
    grilling them on my George Foreman style grill or pan
    frying them. If I had a barbecue or hibachi, I'd try that,
    but I don't have access to one.

    If anyone has any good recipes or marinades for venison
    steaks or techniques for keeping them juicy, I'd love to
    hear them. Thanks.

    Here's a lot more than you asked for. Three columns I wrote
    a few years ago - three separate posts. Doesn't directly
    answer all your questions, but a good primer for game
    cookery, particularly venison.

    Pastorio
    ---------------------------
    Are you game? Part 1 There are few subjects that I
    hear more questions about than cooking game meats.
    Particularly venison. So this week and next week,
    we'll talk a little about game cookery. In my
    restaurants we served lion, hippo, llama, alligator,
    bear, boar, rattlesnake and, yes, venison. After all
    the hours spent at the stove, I can say the
    techniques and recipes below work and that they
    contradict a lot of game cookery books. I'm not
    looking for a fight with any of the good folks who
    wrote them, but I assure you that what follows is
    the best of what I've seen and done over the years.
    Let's go. Game meats are frequently described as
    tough, dry and too strongly flavored. Cookbook
    writers still say to soak game meats for 24 hours or
    more to get rid of the gamy flavor. Or use strong
    marinades to get rid of the gamy flavor. Or cook it
    in three changes of water(!) to get rid of the gamy
    flavor. Would you do any of those things with a
    piece of beef? First, you don't need to go to all
    that nuisance to minimize the "wild" flavor. If you
    trim off the surface fat from your meats, flavors
    become more gentle naturally. Besides, getting rid
    of the all the gamy flavor is getting rid of the
    essence of the meat. Those people who advise you to
    go through all those elaborate preparation steps
    want deer to taste bland, unassertive. Bear to taste
    unlike bear. Hey, if you don't enjoy the flavor;
    there's no earthly reason to mess with it. Go eat
    something you like, don't fight with a piece of
    meat. Been wanting to say that for a long time.
    Let's get to it. We're looking at the more tender
    cuts in these two articles; basically, tenderloins,
    rib roasts (sometimes) and hind leg hams. Any other
    cut will almost surely be too tough to cook this way
    and should be done as pot roasts, stews or ground
    for sausage, burgers, meat loaf (or pate'😉 or chili-
    type dishes. But that's another story for another
    time. Venison is a very lean meat and, when
    roasting, needs to have fat added both for good
    flavor and moisture. The roasts also need to be
    cooked at a low temperature to help them be tender.
    Do it this way and you'll have roasts that will be
    different than anything you've ever eaten before.
    Tender, juicy, moist and tasting like themselves.
    Here's a "be careful" note: You can't cook meats
    consistently by minutes-per-pound formulas because
    there are many variables that will affect the time
    it takes to cook properly. Here's what I mean: 1.
    thin roasts cook faster than thick ones; 2. room
    temperature meats cook faster than ones right out of
    the refrigerator; 3. roasts with bones-in cook
    faster than boneless ones;
    4. rolled and tied roasts take longer than open ones; 5.
    your oven thermostat is more than likely inaccurate. An
    instant-read thermometer from a housewares store (under
    $10) solves all those problems and guarantees success
    every time. Roasting should always be done on a rack,
    never sitting on the bottom of the roasting pan. When you
    put it directly on the pan, you're roasting the top but
    frying the bottom in its own rendered fat. The bottom
    overcooks before the top is done. And never, never put
    meat in a roasting pan and add water. You roast the top
    and boil the bottom. The meat will toughen and get
    stringy. To roast venison, the best temperatures I've
    used were 205 degrees (convection oven) or 250 degrees
    (conventional home oven) or 250 in a smoker. The meat's
    safely done at a center temperature (away from bone) of
    over 145 degrees and it'll be moist, flavorful and cooked
    to the "medium" stage. It will be pink at the center and
    juices will run slightly red. Cook it to 145-150 for
    medium, 150-155 for medium well or 160-170 for well done.
    The more well done, the drier it will be. After taking it
    out of the oven, the roast should be permitted to rest
    for 15 to 20 minutes before slicing, during which time
    the center temperature will go up as much as 20 degrees
    and the juices will redistribute themselves more evenly
    throughout the roast. A 10 pound roast will take
    somewhere between 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 hours to cook to 145,
    depending on the variables. At these low temperatures,
    the outside of the roast will be only slightly browned.
    If you prefer more browning, start the meat in a 450
    degree oven and turn it down to 250 after 20 minutes. For
    moist game roasts, you have to add some fat and there are
    three main ways to do it: first, wrap pieces of fat
    around the meat (called "Barding" in classic French
    cuisine); second, insert strips of fat into the meat
    (called "Larding" and traditionally requiring special
    needles, but you can freeze sticks of bacon or fatback
    and poke holes in the meat and then push the frozen
    sticks through) and; third, inject the meat with a
    kitchen hypodermic needle (available at housewares
    stores). The hypodermic is easy. Just inject a couple
    ounces of a light oil, plain or flavored as below, into
    the roast then either drape bacon over the whole thing or
    make the cover (in the recipes for next week) and roast.
    Try to inject the oil around inside the meat in a few
    different places rather than all in one place. Try this
    for a tasty oil to inject into the meat: take a quart of
    peanut oil and put in a cinnamon stick, three cloves,
    about a tablespoon of cracked black peppercorns, a
    teaspoon of garlic powder, a half teaspoon of ground
    cumin, a tablespoon of cracked, dried juniper berries (if
    you can find them) and a half teaspoon of powdered
    ginger. Put it on a sunny kitchen window sill for a month
    or so and the flavors will quietly permeate the oil.
    Wonderful in a venison leg and, by the way, just as
    terrific in a turkey breast. A satisfying dinner can be
    produced this way: Start the meat in the oven on a rack.
    After about an hour, put peeled and quartered potatoes
    under the rack to bake with any drippings falling on
    them. If you want the meal fuller still, cut a head of
    cabbage into one-inch chunks and spread it on the bottom
    of the pan then scatter the potatoes around on top of the
    cabbage. Lovely. Some books advocate using marinades to
    tenderize. Marinades don't actually penetrate the meat
    very much except through holes you poke in the meat, so
    only a little of the oil in marinades gets inside. The
    catch-22 here is that poking holes in the meat lets its
    juices out so the roast will be drier than if you hadn't
    made the holes. Oh, well. Marinades can add or mask
    flavors, though. Here's one I like: COOKED MARINADE FOR
    VENISON This marinade gentles the "wild" taste, adds
    moisture and flavor, and tenderizes very slightly. Put
    meat and marinade in a covered container just a little
    larger than the piece of meat for 24 to 36 hours. Turn
    over a few times if a roast or stir occasionally if
    pieces of meat. The marinade can be made in large batches
    (double, triple, etc.) and frozen until needed. Freeze in
    zipper bags in small portions, say, a cup. If you have
    enough meat to need more than one portion, open as many
    bags as you need, thaw and pour over meat.
    5/4 cup vinegar
    6/2 cup dry red wine 1 tablespoon lemon juice
    7/2 teaspoon cinnamon
    8/4 teaspoon thyme
    9/4 teaspoon cumin 2 cloves garlic dash hot pepper
    sauce 1 small onion cut into 1/2 inch chunks 2
    ribs celery cut into 1/2 inch chunks 1 medium
    peeled carrot cut into 1/2 inch chunks 1 cup oil
    (light olive, canola, peanut) small pinch ground
    clove 1 tablespoon whole black peppercorns 1
    tablespoon dried juniper berries (optional)
    Combine all ingredients except peppercorns and
    juniper berries in a blender or food processor and
    run until it's fairly smooth. Pour into a
    saucepan, add peppercorns and juniper berries and
    bring to a boil. Reduce heat to a simmer, cover
    and cook for about 15 minutes, stirring
    occasionally. Cool and pour over meat or freeze.
    Use once and discard. Five variations: 1) Try
    flavored vinegars - tarragon, herbal, ginger, etc.
    for a different taste. 2) Use white wine for a
    lighter flavor. 3) Add slices of fresh ginger for
    a bolder flavor and a peppery bite. 4) Add a cup
    of catsup and 1/2 cup brown sugar to the basic
    recipe to make a spicy barbecue sauce to brush on
    grilled meat.
    10) Add a little heated marinade to the sauce or gravy
    that will be served with the roast.

  4. Sumbuddy said:

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    another state last=

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    If I had a barbecue or hibachi, I'd try that, but I don't
    have access to one.
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    If anyone has any good recipes or marinades for venison
    steaks or techniques for keeping them juicy, I'd love to
    hear them. Thanks.

    Here's the second of three.

    Pastorio
    -------------------------
    Are you game? Part 2 Last week we looked at some
    background information about cooking game=20 meats,
    particularly venison. This week, we hit the kitchen
    to see=20 some tested recipes. Here we go.

    ROAST LEG OF VENISON This works with marinated or
    unmarinated roasts equally well.=20 Cooking at
    this low temperature means that you won't have
    many pan=20 drippings beyond the melted butter
    from the filler and will have to=20 come up with
    sauce or gravy from somewhere else. That's bad
    news and=20 great news. Bad news is: no meat
    drippings to make gravy from. Great=20 news: all
    that moisture is still in the meat. 1 leg roast
    (or whole saddle) of venison filler: 3 to 6 cloves
    garlic, mashed to a paste
    1/4 tsp ground cumin
    2/2 tsp ground thyme
    3/4 tsp ground bay leaf
    4/2 tsp ground ginger 1 tsp unflavored meat
    tenderizer (optional) 1 stick butter, room
    temperature Oil (or spray) cover: 1 tsp
    fresh ground pepper 1 tsp paprika 1 tsp
    garlic powder 1 tsp salt (optional) Heat
    oven to 250 degrees; for a convection
    oven, heat to 205.=20 Thoroughly mix
    together all filler ingredients. With the
    tip of a=20 sharp, narrow-bladed knife,
    make holes two inches apart all over
    the=20 meat about 3/4 of an inch deep and
    force some filler into the holes.=20 Spray
    or brush the roast with enough oil to
    moisten the surface. Mix=20 together and
    thickly sprinkle the cover ingredients
    over the roast.=20 Roast until center
    temperature away from bone is 135 for
    medium, 145=20 for medium well or 160 for
    well done. Remove from oven and let sit=20
    for at least 20 minutes so that internal
    temperature will equalize and=20 juices
    will be more evenly distributed. Five
    variations: 1) If using marinated meat,
    add a little marinade=20 to the filler. 2)
    Add raw bacon to the filler, process
    smooth and use=20 as above. 3) Drape raw
    bacon slices over the roast before
    cooking.=20 When the roast is done, chop
    the bacon and add to sauce or gravy. 4)=20
    Add 2 tbsp apple or orange juice
    concentrate to the filler and proceed=20
    as above. 5) Add 1/4 cup or more finely
    ground breadcrumbs to the=20 cover mixture
    and press onto the meat to make a light
    crust. Spray=20 with oil or trickle butter
    sparingly over the breadcrumb crust
    during=20 the last 45 minutes of cooking.

    SCALLOPINE, CUTLETS AND MEDALLIONS The Italian name,
    scallopine, technically refers to any thin,=20
    boneless slice of meat but the most common usage is
    for veal. In=20 French, they say escallopes. In
    English we say cutlets or "little=20 cuts."
    Medallions are usually understood to be slices of
    the=20 tenderloin. The slices of meat for scallopine
    should be about 1/8 inch thick to=20 cook evenly.
    Traditionally, the slices are cut a little thicker,
    then=20 pounded, both to make them all the same
    thickness and to tenderize=20 them. I use the flat
    of a heavy cleaver. You can use anything that=20
    will get the job done without tearing holes in the
    meat. Not so=20 pretty that way. The wax paper
    technique in the second recipe below=20 reduces
    tearing of the meat.

    FRUITED VENISON =09 Serves 4. 2 pounds tenderloin 1
    cup flour 1 teaspoon salt
    5/2 teaspoon white pepper
    6/4 teaspoon each, ground ginger, cinnamon, garlic
    powder 4 tablespoons butter (approximately) 1 cup
    dry red wine 1 cup reduced meat stock or Demi
    Glace (see note below) 1 tablespoon currant jelly
    7/3 cup golden raisins Cut tenderloins into sixteen
    1/2 inch thick medallions. Mix together=20 flour
    and dry seasonings and dredge meat in seasoned
    flour and set=20 aside on wax paper. After a few
    minutes, the moisture in the meat=20 will dampen
    the flour coating. Dredge again to thicken
    coating. Melt=20 enough butter in a skillet (non-
    stick, if possible) to thinly coat the=20 bottom
    over medium-high heat and saut=E9 medallions on
    both sides to a=20 golden brown. Add more butter
    as needed. When cooked, remove meat to=20 warmed
    platter and hold in a 200 degree oven. It may be
    necessary to=20 cook the medallions in two or
    more batches, depending on skillets=20 available.
    After meat is removed, turn up heat, add red wine
    to=20 skillet and bring to full boil, stirring to
    loosen any cooked-on=20 particles. Add reduced
    meat stock, stirring to mix fully. Add jelly=20
    and raisins. Reduce liquid to half, stirring
    frequently, pour over=20 medallions and serve.

    VENISON MARSALA My personal favorite and a wonderful
    variation on the classic Italian=20 veal Marsala.
    This meat is cut and handled differently than the=20
    recipe above. Serves 4. 2 pounds round or tenderloin
    8/2 pound mushrooms, sliced 3 tablespoons butter 1
    cup flour 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon ground
    white pepper
    9/3 cup Marsala wine
    10/4 cup reduced meat stock or Demi Glace (see
    note below)
    11/4 cup heavy cream =09 Cut scallopine from the
    round (top of hind leg) or tenderloins about=20
    12/2 inch thick. Pound between two sheets wax paper to less
    than 1/4=20 inch thick. Meanwhile, saut=E9 1/2 pound
    sliced mushrooms in three=20 tablespoons butter until
    they are lightly browned and hold them aside.=20 Mix
    flour, salt and pepper and dredge meat in seasoned flour
    and=20 saut=E9 on medium-high heat until golden brown.
    Remove meat to a heated =

    platter. Add mushrooms to pan and reheat. Add Marsala wine
    to pan,=20 stirring to dislodge any browned particles. Add
    reduced meat stock=20 and heavy cream, stirring and bring to
    a full boil. Reduce slightly=20 until thickened enough to
    coat the back of a spoon, pour over meat and=20 serve.
    NOTE: Heavy meat stock can be made from the bones
    and trimmings of=20 the deer as you would
    beef or chicken stock. Or substitute a
    Knorr=20 brand product called "Demi Glace"
    which can be found in supermarkets=20
    wherever the sauce mixes live. It comes in
    envelopes; just add water.=20 It's most
    assuredly not the real thing, but can work in
    a pinch. If=20 you have no other possibility,
    some good quality beef gravy can be=20
    substituted and it's definitely not the same
    as game stock but how bad=20 could it be?

  5. Kswck said:

    "Sumbuddy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A coworker of mine was leaving to go to a new job in
    another state last week and gave me about 7 or 8 pounds
    of venison steaks. I don't much about them except that
    they are frozen, wrapped in butcher paper and just say
    steak on the outside. Some are small and some are large,
    so I suspect they an assortment of steak varieties. I've
    never tried cooking venison before, so I'm not sure what
    to do with them. I've heard that venison is lean and can
    be dry, so I'm thinking of marinating them for a few
    hours and


    grilling

    Quoted message said:

    them on my George Foreman style grill or pan frying them.
    If I had a barbecue or hibachi, I'd try that, but I don't
    have access to one.

    If anyone has any good recipes or marinades for venison
    steaks or techniques for keeping them juicy, I'd love to
    hear them. Thanks.

    Sumbuddy

    Try cook on a grill. I use a marinade made of soy
    sauce, brown mustard, garlic clove minced and I cook
    the steaks with a raw onion atop the steak-takes the
    gaminess right out.

    Thanks for the advice. I'll try it.

    Sumbuddy

  6. Bob (this one) said:
    Sumbuddy said:

    A coworker of mine was leaving to go to a new job in
    another state last week and gave me about 7 or 8 pounds
    of venison steaks. I don't much about them except that
    they are frozen, wrapped in butcher paper and just say
    steak on the outside. Some are small and some are large,
    so I suspect they an assortment of steak varieties. I've
    never tried cooking venison before, so I'm not sure what
    to do with them. I've heard that venison is lean and can
    be dry, so I'm thinking of marinating them for a few
    hours and grilling them on my George Foreman style grill
    or pan frying them. If I had a barbecue or hibachi, I'd
    try that, but I don't have access to one.

    If anyone has any good recipes or marinades for venison
    steaks or techniques for keeping them juicy, I'd love to
    hear them. Thanks.

    Here's the second of three.

    Pastorio
    -------------------------
    Are you game? Part 2 Last week we looked at some
    background information about cooking game meats,
    particularly venison. This week, we hit the kitchen
    to see some tested recipes. Here we go.

    ROAST LEG OF VENISON This works with marinated or
    unmarinated roasts equally well. Cooking at this low
    temperature means that you won't have many pan
    drippings beyond the melted butter from the filler
    and will have to come up with sauce or gravy from
    somewhere else. That's bad news and great news. Bad
    news is: no meat drippings to make gravy from. Great
    news: all that moisture is still in the meat. 1 leg
    roast (or whole saddle) of venison filler: 3 to 6
    cloves garlic, mashed to a paste
    1/4 tsp ground cumin
    1/2 tsp ground thyme
    1/4 tsp ground bay leaf
    1/2 tsp ground ginger 1 tsp unflavored meat
    tenderizer (optional) 1 stick butter, room
    temperature Oil (or spray) cover: 1 tsp
    fresh ground pepper 1 tsp paprika 1 tsp
    garlic powder 1 tsp salt (optional) Heat
    oven to 250 degrees; for a convection
    oven, heat to 205. Thoroughly mix together
    all filler ingredients. With the tip of a
    sharp, narrow-bladed knife, make holes two
    inches apart all over the meat about 3/4
    of an inch deep and force some filler into
    the holes. Spray or brush the roast with
    enough oil to moisten the surface. Mix
    together and thickly sprinkle the cover
    ingredients over the roast. Roast until
    center temperature away from bone is 135
    for medium, 145 for medium well or 160 for
    well done. Remove from oven and let sit
    for at least 20 minutes so that internal
    temperature will equalize and juices will
    be more evenly distributed. Five
    variations: 1) If using marinated meat,
    add a little marinade to the filler. 2)
    Add raw bacon to the filler, process
    smooth and use as above. 3) Drape raw
    bacon slices over the roast before
    cooking. When the roast is done, chop the
    bacon and add to sauce or gravy. 4) Add 2
    tbsp apple or orange juice concentrate to
    the filler and proceed as above. 5) Add
    1/4 cup or more finely ground breadcrumbs
    to the cover mixture and press onto the
    meat to make a light crust. Spray with oil
    or trickle butter sparingly over the
    breadcrumb crust during the last 45
    minutes of cooking.

    SCALLOPINE, CUTLETS AND MEDALLIONS The Italian name,
    scallopine, technically refers to any thin, boneless
    slice of meat but the most common usage is for veal.
    In French, they say escallopes. In English we say
    cutlets or "little cuts." Medallions are usually
    understood to be slices of the tenderloin. The
    slices of meat for scallopine should be about 1/8
    inch thick to cook evenly. Traditionally, the slices
    are cut a little thicker, then pounded, both to make
    them all the same thickness and to tenderize them. I
    use the flat of a heavy cleaver. You can use
    anything that will get the job done without tearing
    holes in the meat. Not so pretty that way. The wax
    paper technique in the second recipe below reduces
    tearing of the meat.

    FRUITED VENISON Serves 4. 2 pounds tenderloin 1 cup
    flour 1 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon white pepper
    1/4 teaspoon each, ground ginger, cinnamon, garlic
    powder 4 tablespoons butter (approximately) 1 cup
    dry red wine 1 cup reduced meat stock or Demi
    Glace (see note below) 1 tablespoon currant jelly
    1/3 cup golden raisins Cut tenderloins into sixteen
    1/2 inch thick medallions. Mix together flour and
    dry seasonings and dredge meat in seasoned flour
    and set aside on wax paper. After a few minutes,
    the moisture in the meat will dampen the flour
    coating. Dredge again to thicken coating. Melt
    enough butter in a skillet (non-stick, if
    possible) to thinly coat the bottom over medium-
    high heat and sauté medallions on both sides to a
    golden brown. Add more butter as needed. When
    cooked, remove meat to warmed platter and hold in
    a 200 degree oven. It may be necessary to cook the
    medallions in two or more batches, depending on
    skillets available. After meat is removed, turn up
    heat, add red wine to skillet and bring to full
    boil, stirring to loosen any cooked-on particles.
    Add reduced meat stock, stirring to mix fully. Add
    jelly and raisins. Reduce liquid to half, stirring
    frequently, pour over medallions and serve.

    VENISON MARSALA My personal favorite and a wonderful
    variation on the classic Italian veal Marsala. This
    meat is cut and handled differently than the recipe
    above. Serves 4. 2 pounds round or tenderloin
    1/2 pound mushrooms, sliced 3 tablespoons butter 1
    cup flour 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon ground white
    pepper
    1/3 cup Marsala wine
    1/4 cup reduced meat stock or Demi Glace (see note
    below)
    1/4 cup heavy cream Cut scallopine from the round
    (top of hind leg) or tenderloins about
    1/2 inch thick. Pound between two sheets wax paper to less
    than 1/4 inch thick. Meanwhile, sauté 1/2 pound sliced
    mushrooms in three tablespoons butter until they are
    lightly browned and hold them aside. Mix flour, salt and
    pepper and dredge meat in seasoned flour and sauté on
    medium-high heat until golden brown. Remove meat to a
    heated platter. Add mushrooms to pan and reheat. Add
    Marsala wine to pan, stirring to dislodge any browned
    particles. Add reduced meat stock and heavy cream,
    stirring and bring to a full boil. Reduce slightly until
    thickened enough to coat the back of a spoon, pour over
    meat and serve.
    NOTE: Heavy meat stock can be made from the bones
    and trimmings of the deer as you would beef
    or chicken stock. Or substitute a Knorr brand
    product called "Demi Glace" which can be
    found in supermarkets wherever the sauce
    mixes live. It comes in envelopes; just add
    water. It's most assuredly not the real
    thing, but can work in a pinch. If you have
    no other possibility, some good quality beef
    gravy can be substituted and it's definitely
    not the same as game stock but how bad could
    it be?

    Thanks for posting these articles. I don't have roasts, but
    I was able to get some ideas as to which spices would work
    well. I'll probably try the Marsala recipe if I can work out
    one of the substitutes for Demi Glace. They don't stock too
    many unusual items like that here in North Dakota.

    My wife has decided she wants to use most of the venison to
    make chili, so we may end up doing that. She does tend to
    get her way on these things, LOL.

    Sumbuddy

  7. "Sumbuddy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 28 May 2004 20:49:40 -0400, Bob (this one) wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for posting these articles. I don't have roasts,
    but I was able to get some ideas as to which spices would
    work well. I'll probably try the Marsala recipe if I can
    work out one of the substitutes for Demi Glace. They
    don't stock too many unusual items like that here in
    North Dakota.

    My wife has decided she wants to use most of the venison
    to make chili, so we may end up doing that. She does tend
    to get her way on these things, LOL.

    Sumbuddy

    I think venison makes the absolute best jerky. Yummy!

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