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  1. from dailypeloton.com De Baermaeker's team in Div II - Remex-Massi

    The Belgian team that Paul De Baermaeker has been working on these past months is officially
    registered as Division II with the UCI. The team is called Remex-Massi, and as soon as it can meet
    its financial requirements, it will move into Division I, which should be in this season. Remex is
    is an American real estate company that is in for 9 million Euros over three years, and Massi is of
    course the Spanish bicycle manufacturer - Massi will contribute 200,000 Euros per year. De
    Baermaeker has yet to announce the team's roster, and is also forming a Division III team. (Velo
    Club du Net)

    Remex? never heard of them, do they mean Remax? And do they have that much business interest
    in Europe?

    Bart and Ewoud, do you have any info?

    thanks, jason

  2. Jason Waddell wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    from dailypeloton.com De Baermaeker's team in Div II - Remex-Massi

    The Belgian team that Paul De Baermaeker has been working on these past


    months

    Quoted message said:

    is officially registered as Division II with the UCI. The team is called Remex-Massi, and as soon
    as it can meet its financial requirements, it will move into Division I, which should be in this
    season. Remex is is an


    American

    Quoted message said:

    real estate company that is in for 9 million Euros over three years, and


    Massi

    Quoted message said:

    is of course the Spanish bicycle manufacturer - Massi will contribute


    200,000

    Quoted message said:

    Euros per year. De Baermaeker has yet to announce the team's roster, and is also forming a Division
    III team. (Velo Club du Net)

    Remex? never heard of them, do they mean Remax? And do they have that


    much

    Quoted message said:

    business interest in Europe?

    C'mon Jason. Do a little work for yourself. Type in Remax Europe into google and you will find the
    answers you are looking for...

    Wade

  3. Old news Baconwaddle.....

    Ronde Champe told me about this last week when I hitched a ride on his scooter to the train station
    after work (it was raining mind you).

    << Subject: New Belgium D1 and D3 team? From: [email hidden] (Jason Waddell) Date: Tue, Dec
    31, 2002 3:03 PM Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    from dailypeloton.com De Baermaeker's team in Div II - Remex-Massi

    The Belgian team that Paul De Baermaeker has been working on these past months is officially
    registered as Division II with the UCI. The team is called Remex-Massi, and as soon as it can meet
    its financial requirements, it will move into Division I, which should be in this season. Remex is
    is an American real estate company that is in for 9 million Euros over three years, and Massi is of
    course the Spanish bicycle manufacturer - Massi will contribute 200,000 Euros per year. De
    Baermaeker has yet to announce the team's roster, and is also forming a Division III team. (Velo
    Club du Net)

    Remex? never heard of them, do they mean Remax? And do they have that much business interest
    in Europe?

    Bart and Ewoud, do you have any info?

    thanks, jason

  4. The D3 is for sure, the D1 when everything's arranged. That didnt stop Debaerdemaeker from already
    doing a bid on Ullrich. The Dutch documentary about that guy is a must-see. He's been hanging out in
    the pro world for decades, just on willpower and convincing not too big sponsors. By Flemish
    standards he's a bully, but not really I think.

  5. Jason Waddell said:

    Remex? never heard of them, do they mean Remax? And do they have that much business interest
    in Europe?

    Never heard of them either.

    Quoted message said:

    Bart and Ewoud, do you have any info?

    I'm afraid I really don't have any insider info, now or ever. The paper I get is sort of a Dutch
    version of the NYT, not much cycling info there. Flemish teletext is about as close to the source I
    get. Apart from my weekly training rides with Michael Boogerd, that is. He only showed up once
    though, the [censored].

  6. Bart said:

    The Dutch documentary about that guy is a must-see.

    That was fun yes. Sorry, don't have it on tape (bta, nor do I have a digitizer card).

  7. "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    there. Flemish teletext is about as close to the source I get. Apart from my weekly training rides
    with Michael Boogerd, that is. He only showed up once though, the [censored].

    EuroPros are more likely to show if you promise to have them over for pizza after the ride.

  8. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: New Belgium D1 and D3 team? From: "Wade Summers" [email hidden] Date: 12/31/02
    2:49 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jason Waddell wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    from dailypeloton.com De Baermaeker's team in Div II - Remex-Massi

    The Belgian team that Paul De Baermaeker has been working on these past


    months

    Quoted message said:

    is officially registered as Division II with the UCI. The team is called Remex-Massi, and as soon
    as it can meet its financial requirements, it will move into Division I, which should be in this
    season. Remex is is an


    American

    Quoted message said:

    real estate company that is in for 9 million Euros over three years, and


    Massi

    Quoted message said:

    is of course the Spanish bicycle manufacturer - Massi will contribute


    200,000

    Quoted message said:

    Euros per year. De Baermaeker has yet to announce the team's roster, and is also forming a
    Division III team. (Velo Club du Net)

    Remex? never heard of them, do they mean Remax? And do they have that


    much

    Quoted message said:

    business interest in Europe?

    C'mon Jason. Do a little work for yourself. Type in Remax Europe into google and you will find the
    answers you are looking for...

    Wade

    Thanks for the clue Inspector Wade. I did that but wanted a perspective from someone who lives in
    Europe on Remax. Google doesn't tell you if something is a household name ie: Saturn,7UP(US)
    Domo/Lotto(Bel).

    thanks anyway Wade, jason

  9. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: New Belgium D1 and D3 team? From: [email hidden] (Monkeyhillcs) Date: 12/31/02
    3:51 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Old news Baconwaddle.....

    Ronde Champe told me about this last week when I hitched a ride on his scooter to the train station
    after work (it was raining mind you).

    so you were ridin' [censored]?

    thanks, jason never ridden [censored] on a scooter or moto...

  10. thanks for the info Bart.

  11. Jason Waddell wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: New Belgium D1 and D3 team? From: "Wade Summers" [email hidden] Date: 12/31/02
    2:49 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jason Waddell wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    from dailypeloton.com De Baermaeker's team in Div II - Remex-Massi

    The Belgian team that Paul De Baermaeker has been working on these past


    months

    Quoted message said:

    is officially registered as Division II with the UCI. The team is called Remex-Massi, and as soon
    as it can meet its financial requirements, it


    will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    move into Division I, which should be in this season. Remex is is an


    American

    Quoted message said:

    real estate company that is in for 9 million Euros over three years, and


    Massi

    Quoted message said:

    is of course the Spanish bicycle manufacturer - Massi will contribute


    200,000

    Quoted message said:

    Euros per year. De Baermaeker has yet to announce the team's roster, and


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    also forming a Division III team. (Velo Club du Net)

    Remex? never heard of them, do they mean Remax? And do they have that


    much

    Quoted message said:

    business interest in Europe?

    C'mon Jason. Do a little work for yourself. Type in Remax Europe into


    google

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and you will find the answers you are looking for...

    Wade

    Thanks for the clue Inspector Wade. I did that but wanted a perspective


    from

    Quoted message said:

    someone who lives in Europe on Remax. Google doesn't tell you if something


    is

    Quoted message said:

    a household name ie: Saturn,7UP(US) Domo/Lotto(Bel).

    What!? Are we supposed to be mind readers? You didn't ask is ReMax well known in Europe. You asked,
    could the "Remex" mentioned in the article actually be ReMax, the US real estate company? And you
    asked, if they did much business in Europe. The first question is actually answered in the story.
    Remex is obviously a typo.

    If you already searched, and found the answers, why did you ask those questions?

    Now we know what you really wanted. You wanted to know if ReMax was as well known in Europe as it is
    here. And you wanted a "European perspective". I can't help you there. Bart, can you?

    Wade

  12. "Jason Waddell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]..

    from cyclingnews.com today: US sponsor for De Baeremaeker's squads Belgian team manager Paul De
    Baeremaeker's plans for this season look set to encompass two teams, one each in Division II and
    III. Both squads will be sponsored by U.S. real estate company Re/Max, which has a rapidly emerging
    presence in Europe. Re/Max will be putting in 9 million euros over the next three years, with the
    principal aim of getting into Division I in 2004.

    The Division II team will be known as Re/Max-Massi, with well known Spanish bike manufacturer Massi
    serving as a co-sponsor, contributing 200,000 euros. De Baeremaeker will formally announce the team
    on January 8, and is currently on the lookout for good Belgian riders who have yet to sign
    contracts. Dave Bruylandts is one of these, although he has offers from Marlux and Palmans.

    The Division III team will be called Unidek-Remex, will be composed by young riders from Belgium and
    the Netherlands.

    Dave

  13. "Bart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    The D3 is for sure, the D1 when everything's arranged. That didnt stop Debaerdemaeker from already
    doing a bid on Ullrich. The Dutch documentary about that guy is a must-see. He's been hanging out
    in the pro world for decades, just on willpower and convincing not too big sponsors. By Flemish
    standards he's a bully, but not really I think.

    Ditto - it was a brilliant doco. The guy's got a lot of character. Not sure if that alone will get
    his team into division I, but we'll see.

    Cheers, Jeff (who has done a lot of laundry at the local IPSO)

  14. Ewoud Dronkert said:

    I'm afraid I really don't have any insider info, now or ever. The paper I get is sort of a Dutch
    version of the NYT, not much cycling info there.

    Ironically the NYT, despite its somewhat lame sports section, is about the only US daily paper that
    does run stories on cycling (except for other papers' July stories about LANCE), since they carry
    Sam Abt's articles from the IHT.

    Quoted message said:

    Flemish teletext is about as close to the source I get. Apart from my weekly training rides with
    Michael Boogerd, that is. He only showed up once though, the [censored].

    He's ducking out to avoid getting beaten in the sprint.

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