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  1. Just had my Actionbent Litespeed Metro SWB/OSS arrive, after only three
    days in transit. I spent almost three hours putting together the gear,
    frame/boom, brake, and handlebar system before taking a break for the
    evening. I'll finish up the chain and seat tomorrow. Can't wait for my
    first ride. I have a seven-mile commute to work coming up on Sunday
    that'll be my initial test-out.

    Been riding a DF to work for fourteen years; started getting the sore
    wrists, neck, back, and numb groin just last year. So, with a little
    research, I found some great reviews on recumbents - and how much more
    comfortable they are to ride.

    Finally, after all the research (gotta love the 'net), I decided that the
    SWB OOS seemed to be the best option for somewhat heavy-traffic commuting.

    We'll see!

  2. Toothy Grin said:

    Just had my Actionbent Litespeed Metro SWB/OSS arrive, after only three
    days in transit. I spent almost three hours putting together the gear,
    frame/boom, brake, and handlebar system before taking a break for the
    evening. I'll finish up the chain and seat tomorrow. Can't wait for my
    first ride. I have a seven-mile commute to work coming up on Sunday
    that'll be my initial test-out.

    Can't wait to hear your after-action report! I'm particularly
    interested in ActionBents because they're so inexpensive, relatively
    speaking, but I've yet to hear of one unhappy owner!

    Are you some kind of bicycle expert or mechanically-inclined? If it
    were me, I'd have an LBS review my setup first!

    Quoted message said:

    Been riding a DF to work for fourteen years; started getting the sore
    wrists, neck, back, and numb groin just last year. So, with a little
    research, I found some great reviews on recumbents - and how much more
    comfortable they are to ride.

    You know, I saw two fellow 'bent-riders today...and I've been seeing
    them more and more this past year!

    Boy did we catch this wave or what! I hope it just swells and
    swells....

    Quoted message said:

    Finally, after all the research (gotta love the 'net), I decided that the
    SWB OOS seemed to be the best option for somewhat heavy-traffic commuting.

    We'll see!

    I've already done USS SWB commuting and it was fun! I am slower and
    have to be rather more careful, but though I love my DF nothing is as
    comfy as a 'bent!

    And I have seen a few LWB riders in the streets here in NYC during rush
    hour, so I am hopeful that urban commuting on a 'bent won't be much
    hassle, long-run! Main thing, I think, is finding a place to lock it
    up. Luckily, I can stow mine in the office.

  3. I know what you mean with the sore wrists, neck, back etc as I have dumped
    the conventional mountain bike for a recumbent for the same reason. I
    purchased a tube kit for a Greenspeen GTS trike from last year, and welded
    up the frame over the Christmas holidays. I've since finished that and am
    now waiting on funds to purchase a Rohloff 14 speed hub and disc brakes for
    the front end. If anyone wishes to discuss fabrication, I am more than happy
    to share my (long...10 weeks, 8 am to 5 pm) experience with frame building
    and help anyone out.

    "Toothy Grin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just had my Actionbent Litespeed Metro SWB/OSS arrive, after only three
    days in transit. I spent almost three hours putting together the gear,
    frame/boom, brake, and handlebar system before taking a break for the
    evening. I'll finish up the chain and seat tomorrow. Can't wait for my
    first ride. I have a seven-mile commute to work coming up on Sunday
    that'll be my initial test-out.

    Been riding a DF to work for fourteen years; started getting the sore
    wrists, neck, back, and numb groin just last year. So, with a little
    research, I found some great reviews on recumbents - and how much more
    comfortable they are to ride.

    Finally, after all the research (gotta love the 'net), I decided that the
    SWB OOS seemed to be the best option for somewhat heavy-traffic commuting.

    We'll see!

  4. I want to buy one, did you liked it? is it hard to put together?

    "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Toothy Grin said:

    Just had my Actionbent Litespeed Metro SWB/OSS arrive, after only three
    days in transit. I spent almost three hours putting together the gear,
    frame/boom, brake, and handlebar system before taking a break for the
    evening. I'll finish up the chain and seat tomorrow. Can't wait for my
    first ride. I have a seven-mile commute to work coming up on Sunday
    that'll be my initial test-out.

    Can't wait to hear your after-action report! I'm particularly
    interested in ActionBents because they're so inexpensive, relatively
    speaking, but I've yet to hear of one unhappy owner!

    Are you some kind of bicycle expert or mechanically-inclined? If it
    were me, I'd have an LBS review my setup first!

    Quoted message said:

    Been riding a DF to work for fourteen years; started getting the sore
    wrists, neck, back, and numb groin just last year. So, with a little
    research, I found some great reviews on recumbents - and how much more
    comfortable they are to ride.

    You know, I saw two fellow 'bent-riders today...and I've been seeing
    them more and more this past year!

    Boy did we catch this wave or what! I hope it just swells and
    swells....

    Quoted message said:

    Finally, after all the research (gotta love the 'net), I decided that


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    SWB OOS seemed to be the best option for somewhat heavy-traffic


    commuting.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    We'll see!

    I've already done USS SWB commuting and it was fun! I am slower and
    have to be rather more careful, but though I love my DF nothing is as
    comfy as a 'bent!

    And I have seen a few LWB riders in the streets here in NYC during rush
    hour, so I am hopeful that urban commuting on a 'bent won't be much
    hassle, long-run! Main thing, I think, is finding a place to lock it
    up. Luckily, I can stow mine in the office.

    --
    NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth

  5. Duram said:

    I want to buy one, did you liked it? is it hard to put together?

    Um, sorry, thought you knew...I have an SWB from HP Velo, not
    ActionBent....

  6. NYC XYZ said:

    Can't wait to hear your after-action report! I'm particularly
    interested in ActionBents because they're so inexpensive, relatively
    speaking, but I've yet to hear of one unhappy owner!

    Whew!!! Just got home from my first Actionbent Litespeed Metro tryout.
    I'd never ridden a 'bent of any type before, so I thought I'd take some
    time to figure out what I'm doing prior to taking it for any serious
    traffic-laden commute.

    I started out slowly.. Actually, I started out with *much* intrepidity.
    Heh.. I'd even call it paralysis. But, my driveway is on a somewhat steep
    downhill, so I let myself coast down (when the coast was clear!) The
    first turn was definitely a new experience. I had to 'program' myself to
    turn the bike.. I'd never quite felt anything quite like it before.

    After about five-ten minutes, I was starting to get somewhat used to it.
    I did some stops and starts (very badly at first; the first time, I
    wobbled all the way across to the other side of the road -- glad I decided
    to do it on a cul-de-sac!) I rode it around on straight-aways at full
    gear and at the lowest gear.. Then unfortunately, I found out the hard way
    that I was no longer on a mountain bike.. I rode up on a curb and tried a
    turn that was far too sharp for my experience, slid out of control and
    laid it down, breaking off my brand new left-side mirror. (*DOH*). Other
    than a few scratches (my ego hurt far worse than my elbow), I was fine.
    But I decided that I'd work on my control before getting too cocky again.

    I rode through the neighborhood some more for about 20 minutes and
    really began to feel somewhat comfortable. At that time, I rode to the
    local school to do; I did about 15 minutes of slaloms between a set of
    trees in the parking lot, feeling more and more confident in my riding.

    I did get a lot of head-turns and some kids shouting "COOL"... heh.

    Some things I learned:

    1) My old helmet does *not* work. I'm going to need to get an entirely
    different style that'll "fit" my bike.
    2) Steering on the SWB is a completely new experience.. I discovered that
    one learns to steer "after" what you're used to on a DF. It was quite a
    unique realization that I was steering to avoid road debris *after* my
    feet had already crossed over it.
    3) The 'bent is *not* a mountain bike.. it is a road bike and I must treat
    it accordingly at all times.
    4) *ick* Bugs are a lot more of a problem on a bent.. They get airflowed
    right into my face!! Wonder what I can do to mitigate...

    Quoted message said:

    Are you some kind of bicycle expert or mechanically-inclined? If it
    were me, I'd have an LBS review my setup first!

    More mechanically-inclined, I guess. I started woodworking two or so
    years ago and it gave me a more-trained eye for detail. To be entirely
    honest, before I built my LS Metro over the last weekend, I had difficulty
    changing my tire. Fortunately, I had my DF to kinda learn from. To be
    honest, the most difficult part of the entire bike was the seat! The
    'free upgrade' seat comes without the mounting holes in the frame!
    It's drill your own!! What I thought would be the scariest part --
    mounting and threading the chain -- ended up being very intuitive. The
    bike comes with *almost* all the proper tools needed to build the bike.
    It comes with a bike chain .. er.. thingie (sorry, don't know what it's
    called -- the tool that drives the rivets through the chain 'eye' holes),
    the necessary allen wrenches (*), and a rudimentary wrench that's more
    useful as a shim than for its 'normal' use.

    (*) In order to properly mount the freebie seat, you need a curved allen
    wrench of proper size -- the allen wrench that comes with it is the swiss
    army knife set. I had to drive, grumbling, to Home Depot to get one.

    It took about 10 hours to build, all-told, for a complete newbie bike
    mechanic (possessing some tool skills). The instructions are a bit on the
    weak side; parts are unlabeled and only through visual matching with
    on-line pictures of the bike and holding the parts up to various areas
    was I able to figure out what went where. Unfortunately, I broke off a
    tightening screw.. Question: On an OSS/SWB bike, is the steering
    mechanism supposed to be 'free', front to back? Mine swings back and
    forth about 10 degrees, which gives me more flexibility to maneuver, but
    gives my upper body (pecs/upper arms) far more of a workout than my DF.

    Quoted message said:

    You know, I saw two fellow 'bent-riders today...and I've been seeing
    them more and more this past year!

    🙂 I've only seen them on occasion during my commute to work. And at
    that, very few times.

    Quoted message said:

    Boy did we catch this wave or what! I hope it just swells and
    swells....

    Well, I'm one.. A wave of one! 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    I've already done USS SWB commuting and it was fun! I am slower and
    have to be rather more careful, but though I love my DF nothing is as
    comfy as a 'bent!

    Quoted message said:

    And I have seen a few LWB riders in the streets here in NYC during rush
    hour, so I am hopeful that urban commuting on a 'bent won't be much
    hassle, long-run! Main thing, I think, is finding a place to lock it
    up. Luckily, I can stow mine in the office.

    *nod* My office has a special key-carded, video-monitored bike room. I
    will feel safe stowing it in there!

    Thanks for reading! 🙂

  7. Toothy Grin said:

    Whew!!! Just got home from my first Actionbent Litespeed Metro tryout.
    I'd never ridden a 'bent of any type before, so I thought I'd take some
    time to figure out what I'm doing prior to taking it for any serious
    traffic-laden commute.

    Wow, you're a brave one! I think you should try downhill MTBing
    instead!

    Quoted message said:

    I started out slowly.. Actually, I started out with *much* intrepidity.
    Heh.. I'd even call it paralysis. But, my driveway is on a somewhat steep
    downhill, so I let myself coast down (when the coast was clear!) The
    first turn was definitely a new experience. I had to 'program' myself to
    turn the bike.. I'd never quite felt anything quite like it before.

    Didya have a 'bent-smile? =)

    Quoted message said:

    After about five-ten minutes, I was starting to get somewhat used to it.
    I did some stops and starts (very badly at first; the first time, I
    wobbled all the way across to the other side of the road -- glad I decided
    to do it on a cul-de-sac!) I rode it around on straight-aways at full
    gear and at the lowest gear.. Then unfortunately, I found out the hard way
    that I was no longer on a mountain bike.. I rode up on a curb and tried a
    turn that was far too sharp for my experience, slid out of control and
    laid it down, breaking off my brand new left-side mirror. (*DOH*). Other
    than a few scratches (my ego hurt far worse than my elbow), I was fine.
    But I decided that I'd work on my control before getting too cocky again.

    LOL!

    That's why I'd first tried out the 'bent in my office hallways (I'd the
    thing shipped to work 'cause I didn't want to take off a day waiting
    for the delivery [weekends not available]) and I had two or three falls
    myself -- and I wasn't even moving! So at least you have an excuse;
    I'd cornered all turns and gone through doorways all right, only to
    keel over when sitting still on my 'bent -- go figure!

    I recommend all first-time 'bent-riders try out a 'bent on linoleum
    tiling or parquet wood flooring! =)

    Quoted message said:

    I rode through the neighborhood some more for about 20 minutes and
    really began to feel somewhat comfortable. At that time, I rode to the
    local school to do; I did about 15 minutes of slaloms between a set of
    trees in the parking lot, feeling more and more confident in my riding.

    Have you gone flying over speed bumps yet? It's a funny feeling in a
    'bent...chairborne!

    Quoted message said:

    I did get a lot of head-turns and some kids shouting "COOL"... heh.

    Wait 'til you get cops laughing at you...!

    Quoted message said:

    Some things I learned:

    1) My old helmet does *not* work. I'm going to need to get an entirely
    different style that'll "fit" my bike.

    Huh? Please elaborate.

    And down with Helmet Nazis! Is there a way to protest being forced to
    wear a helmet on organized rides? There are so many I'd like to join,
    but they all oblige a helmet. Luckily, I haven't gotten kicked out of
    any (yet) for constantly taking mine off.

    Quoted message said:

    2) Steering on the SWB is a completely new experience.. I discovered that
    one learns to steer "after" what you're used to on a DF. It was quite a
    unique realization that I was steering to avoid road debris *after* my
    feet had already crossed over it.

    LOL...never thought of it that way!

    Quoted message said:

    3) The 'bent is *not* a mountain bike.. it is a road bike and I must treat
    it accordingly at all times.

    Heck, mine looks more like a MTB, with full suspension (high-end, too)
    and Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires -- and I have to be even more careful
    than I am with my road bike! Definitely no going over sidewalk curbs
    with that 20" front wheel; at least I'm still able to go off of them --
    it's not a big drop coming off of them into the street.

    Quoted message said:

    4) *ick* Bugs are a lot more of a problem on a bent.. They get airflowed
    right into my face!! Wonder what I can do to mitigate...

    Someone posted these the other day...<http://www.respro.com>.

    Quoted message said:

    More mechanically-inclined, I guess. I started woodworking two or so
    years ago and it gave me a more-trained eye for detail. To be entirely
    honest, before I built my LS Metro over the last weekend, I had difficulty
    changing my tire.

    I do, too, but at least I know what to do.

    Quoted message said:

    Fortunately, I had my DF to kinda learn from. To be
    honest, the most difficult part of the entire bike was the seat! The
    'free upgrade' seat comes without the mounting holes in the frame!
    It's drill your own!!

    WTF?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    Quoted message said:

    What I thought would be the scariest part --
    mounting and threading the chain -- ended up being very intuitive.

    Wow, good for you, I'd have thought the same.

    Quoted message said:

    The
    bike comes with *almost* all the proper tools needed to build the bike.
    It comes with a bike chain .. er.. thingie (sorry, don't know what it's
    called -- the tool that drives the rivets through the chain 'eye' holes),

    It even comes with a basic chain tool? Hmm, pretty cool!

    Quoted message said:

    the necessary allen wrenches (*), and a rudimentary wrench that's more
    useful as a shim than for its 'normal' use.

    Yeah, I wonder how that came about, everybody seems to be providing
    allen keys/wrenches these days, every little thing you buy that needs
    the slightest bit of assembly gets an allen key/wrench...they should
    start giving you money for them like how they do with soda cans!

    Quoted message said:

    (*) In order to properly mount the freebie seat, you need a curved allen
    wrench of proper size -- the allen wrench that comes with it is the swiss
    army knife set. I had to drive, grumbling, to Home Depot to get one.

    Damn, I can imagine! I hate having to put my toys away once I get into
    things.

    Quoted message said:

    It took about 10 hours to build, all-told, for a complete newbie bike
    mechanic (possessing some tool skills). The instructions are a bit on the
    weak side; parts are unlabeled and only through visual matching with
    on-line pictures of the bike and holding the parts up to various areas
    was I able to figure out what went where.

    LOL...yeah, when I saw the ActionBent site, I was reminded of the
    Flintstones in Bedrock....

    Quoted message said:

    Unfortunately, I broke off a
    tightening screw.. Question: On an OSS/SWB bike, is the steering
    mechanism supposed to be 'free', front to back? Mine swings back and
    forth about 10 degrees, which gives me more flexibility to maneuver, but
    gives my upper body (pecs/upper arms) far more of a workout than my DF.

    Um, I don't think you're supposed to have any moving parts on a bike
    except for the obvious...but I don't know OSS/ASS...anyone else know?

    Quoted message said:

    🙂 I've only seen them on occasion during my commute to work. And at
    that, very few times.

    Someone reported that there's even a recumbent bike messenger here in
    NYC! I wonder how he locks up his bike....

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I'm one.. A wave of one! 🙂

    They say the comfort bike is what's driving bike sales overall...I hope
    'bents benefit from that, like how a rising tide lifts all boats!

    Quoted message said:

    *nod* My office has a special key-carded, video-monitored bike room. I
    will feel safe stowing it in there!

    Oh, wow, that's the best! But part of my interest in an ActionBent is
    imagining that I could use one for those situations when I'd be forced
    to lock up the bike on the street AND be out of sight AND be away for
    an hour or two -- like when I go to the gym. I'm thinking that IF --
    GOD FORBID -- it gets stolen I wouldn't have lost "too much"....

    How will you lock up your bike? Unless it's at your desk -- like it is
    with me (behind my seat, actually) -- you'd still have to put a lock on
    it, despite the video camera.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for reading! 🙂

    Thanks for sharing! Please post in future anything else you notice. I
    think an ActionBent is what I'll recommend certain folks who are
    interested in a recumbent bike but don't want to spend too much money.
    And as mentioned, I myself see this brand as one whose bikes I wouldn't
    need to "worry" about in a worst-case scenario, whether theft or
    crash...and it would be educational for me, probably, in finally
    getting down to the nitty-gritties of a bike!

  8. Congrats on your new bent. Glad you got it sorted out. Holes for the seat? Echo WTF?!?!?

    Bugs! I lowered my seat angle again today and did not get any up the nose this ride. Lucky I suppose. Did have several sizeable insectoids bounce off the shins, knees however. Little buggers sting just a tad when cooking along at 20+ mph. We are due for a bad bug year down here. No real freeze and the crops are growing...

    If you have not fallen over at a dead stop, remember, YET stands for You're Eligible Too. It's almost a right of passage, especially if you are riding clipless. Try to fall left, and not into traffic. Less chance of bending your rear hanger that way. Guess how I found that out!

    Charlie

  9. NYC XYZ said:
    Toothy Grin said:

    Just had my Actionbent Litespeed Metro SWB/OSS arrive, after only three
    days in transit. I spent almost three hours putting together the gear,
    frame/boom, brake, and handlebar system before taking a break for the
    evening. I'll finish up the chain and seat tomorrow. Can't wait for my
    first ride. I have a seven-mile commute to work coming up on Sunday
    that'll be my initial test-out.

    Can't wait to hear your after-action report! I'm particularly
    interested in ActionBents because they're so inexpensive, relatively
    speaking, but I've yet to hear of one unhappy owner!

    Are you some kind of bicycle expert or mechanically-inclined? If it
    were me, I'd have an LBS review my setup first!

    Quoted message said:

    Been riding a DF to work for fourteen years; started getting the sore
    wrists, neck, back, and numb groin just last year. So, with a little
    research, I found some great reviews on recumbents - and how much more
    comfortable they are to ride.

    You know, I saw two fellow 'bent-riders today...and I've been seeing
    them more and more this past year!

    Boy did we catch this wave or what! I hope it just swells and
    swells....

    Quoted message said:

    Finally, after all the research (gotta love the 'net), I decided that the
    SWB OOS seemed to be the best option for somewhat heavy-traffic commuting.

    We'll see!

    I've already done USS SWB commuting and it was fun! I am slower and
    have to be rather more careful, but though I love my DF nothing is as
    comfy as a 'bent!

    And I have seen a few LWB riders in the streets here in NYC during rush
    hour, so I am hopeful that urban commuting on a 'bent won't be much
    hassle, long-run! Main thing, I think, is finding a place to lock it
    up. Luckily, I can stow mine in the office.


    I just got my ActionBent three weeks ago. I am a Chrysler technician. My
    hands and wrists take a beating during the day. I have had the numb
    hands and painful wrists. My research caused me to by a recumbent. I
    found ActionBent and really liked the Lite Speed Metro. I received my
    bike after five days. That was good because I live in NC and UPS had
    routed it to the wrong place. As far as how easy it is to set up, it was
    easy for me to put together. Yes, the bike comes with most of the tools
    to put it together. But, I bought a set of tools from Park years ago to
    work on my bikes myself.

    It is a slight learning curve to get used to the way a SW bent handles.
    It is very responsive. Yes, you have to learn how to turn. Once I got
    used to it I take curves and turns just like my DF bike (leaning into
    it). Slow turns take a lot bigger turning radius. so far I have no
    complaints. I went out with my local bike club this weekend and enjoyed
    the hell out of it. Everybody was asking questions about my bike. The
    hardest thing to get used to is stopping. I use clip less pedals and I
    recommend them to anybody that rides a bent. The clip less pedals are
    harder to unclip when your feet are up in the front. And yes you will
    fall over every once in awhile at stops. Have fun.

  10. NYC XYZ said:
    Toothy Grin said:

    I'd never ridden a 'bent of any type before, so I thought I'd take some
    time to figure out what I'm doing prior to taking it for any serious
    traffic-laden commute.


    Wow, you're a brave one! I think you should try downhill MTBing
    instead!

    *hee* Not at all. I just am one that likes to jump right in to learn. I
    would rather fall down and learn what not to do. Although, I understand
    that the SWBs aren't the ones most-recommended to newbies.. *shrug* It's
    been grand so far.. (See below for Day 2)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    turn the bike.. I'd never quite felt anything quite like it before.


    Didya have a 'bent-smile? =)

    **OH** yeah.. Bugs-in-the-teeth kind. 😉

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But I decided that I'd work on my control before getting too cocky again.


    That's why I'd first tried out the 'bent in my office hallways (I'd the

    That's a good idea.. Although I think my co-workers would get *all* bent
    out of shape (pardon the pun). How'd your co-workers take it? I'll
    betcha had fun, though..

    Quoted message said:

    Have you gone flying over speed bumps yet? It's a funny feeling in a
    'bent...chairborne!

    That's one I've not experienced just yet. I don't have anything like that
    along my commute (although the road does get somewhat rough around the
    bike lanes at times).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I did get a lot of head-turns and some kids shouting "COOL"... heh.


    Wait 'til you get cops laughing at you...!

    Quoted message said:

    Some things I learned:

    1) My old helmet does *not* work. I'm going to need to get an entirely
    different style that'll "fit" my bike.


    Huh? Please elaborate.

    When I put it on and leaned back for the first time, the helmet literally
    stuck on the back of the headrest, shoving the helmet right down over my
    eyes. No amount of adjustment - tight or light - would work, so I just
    gave up and took it off completely. I'm thinking I'll just get one of
    those skateboarder shell-like helms instead, since they have a really high
    back.

    Quoted message said:

    And down with Helmet Nazis!


    [..]

    Eh. CA has no helmet rule if you're over 17. I'm going to make my first
    commute tomorrow without one, although at lunch I plan to ride over to the
    downtown area bike shop and get one that better-fits me.

    Quoted message said:

    Heck, mine looks more like a MTB, with full suspension (high-end, too)
    and Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires -- and I have to be even more careful
    than I am with my road bike! Definitely no going over sidewalk curbs
    with that 20" front wheel; at least I'm still able to go off of them --
    it's not a big drop coming off of them into the street.

    Sweet. I would imagine that gives you a soft ride. I have full
    suspension on my DF "MTB" (I assume that's Mountain Bike), and it's very
    nice at the cost of some speed. I don't mind the bumps and bangs -- yet..
    Although I've yet to hit anything that really jars me, either.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4) *ick* Bugs are a lot more of a problem on a bent.. They get airflowed
    right into my face!! Wonder what I can do to mitigate...


    Someone posted these the other day...<http://www.respro.com>.

    Thanks for that! That looks to be just the ticket. Will help my
    allergies, to boot (The Sacramento Valley is a deathtrap for pollen during
    the spring bloom)

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    Fortunately, I had my DF to kinda learn from. To be
    honest, the most difficult part of the entire bike was the seat! The
    'free upgrade' seat comes without the mounting holes in the frame!
    It's drill your own!!


    WTF?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    Yup. Again, I wasn't horribly intimidated, since I do a lot of drilling
    with the woodworking, but it definitely irritated me.

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    The bike comes with *almost* all the proper tools needed to build the bike.
    It comes with a bike chain .. er.. thingie (sorry, don't know what it's
    called -- the tool that drives the rivets through the chain 'eye' holes),


    It even comes with a basic chain tool? Hmm, pretty cool!

    Ah, is that what it is called -- thank you. 🙂

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    It took about 10 hours to build, all-told, for a complete newbie bike
    mechanic (possessing some tool skills). The instructions are a bit on the
    weak side; parts are unlabeled and only through visual matching with
    on-line pictures of the bike and holding the parts up to various areas
    was I able to figure out what went where.


    LOL...yeah, when I saw the ActionBent site, I was reminded of the
    Flintstones in Bedrock....

    (*chuckle*) I don't plan to ride up and order any bronto-ribs just yet..

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    Unfortunately, I broke off a
    tightening screw.. Question: On an OSS/SWB bike, is the steering
    mechanism supposed to be 'free', front to back? Mine swings back and
    forth about 10 degrees, which gives me more flexibility to maneuver, but
    gives my upper body (pecs/upper arms) far more of a workout than my DF.


    Um, I don't think you're supposed to have any moving parts on a bike
    except for the obvious...but I don't know OSS/ASS...anyone else know?

    Hmm. Then that could be bad. I *really* tightened it down - prior to the
    screw breaking off, and it hasn't wiggled since.. But, if it starts to
    wiggle any further, I'm gonna need that screw replaced... And I'll have to
    drill it out. 🙁

    Quoted message said:

    They say the comfort bike is what's driving bike sales overall...I hope
    'bents benefit from that, like how a rising tide lifts all boats!

    I hope so indeed - that will knock the price down in parts for all of us!

    Quoted message said:

    How will you lock up your bike? Unless it's at your desk -- like it is
    with me (behind my seat, actually) -- you'd still have to put a lock on
    it, despite the video camera.

    The room's supposed to be guarded by security. I may have my
    welding-hobby brother-in-law weld on a security loop that I can thread
    some locking chain on it for when I'm not at work, but at this point, the
    Kryptonite u-loop lock that I've had for 12 years is going to have to do.

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    Thanks for reading! 🙂


    Thanks for sharing! Please post in future anything else you notice. I
    think an ActionBent is what I'll recommend certain folks who are
    interested in a recumbent bike but don't want to spend too much money.
    And as mentioned, I myself see this brand as one whose bikes I wouldn't
    need to "worry" about in a worst-case scenario, whether theft or
    crash...and it would be educational for me, probably, in finally
    getting down to the nitty-gritties of a bike!

    Thank you for the welcoming! For the record, I would recommend this
    bike to a newbie (like me) who want to at least give it a whirl. And
    yes, I wouldn't mind *too* terribly much losing this one, although
    I've certainly never spent so much for a bike before in my life. As
    for my travails, I'll be happy to share..

    Day 2: What a difference a day makes!
    After work, I was itching to give it another ride, so I dressed
    comfortably and took off again around the neighborhood. What a complete
    difference from yesterday! I had confidence, balance, and felt absolutely
    comfortable, from startup to stopping. This time, I did some full stops,
    practicing gearing down as part of the stop itself. Starting up is *SO*
    much easier in low gear.. The 'Metro didn't wobble at all in a startup at
    gears 2-2.. Felt fantastic!! I even did some medium-speed cornering and
    practiced some 'wiggling' at lower speed to emulate steering around
    debris. All as comfortable as I could hope to be... Although (*hee*) I
    did fall over on a full stop once.. Couldn't get my foot down quite
    correctly, but the lay down was almost like just rolling over from a
    sit-down position.. No pain at all.

    I absolutely *LOVE* this bike... With the exception of having to drill my
    own seat mounting. I will be commuting to work tomorrow..

  11. Toothy Grin said:

    *hee* Not at all. I just am one that likes to jump right in to learn. I
    would rather fall down and learn what not to do. Although, I understand
    that the SWBs aren't the ones most-recommended to newbies.. *shrug* It's
    been grand so far.. (See below for Day 2)

    Why did you choose OSS? To me, USS is more "faithful" to the spirit
    and promise of recumbent riding!

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    That's a good idea.. Although I think my co-workers would get *all* bent
    out of shape (pardon the pun). How'd your co-workers take it? I'll
    betcha had fun, though..

    Actually, one of them is a volunteer marshal for the annual Five Boro
    Bike Tour! He was fascinated, though he didn't say anything like "I
    want one!" that some others had said.

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    <SNIP>

    When I put it on and leaned back for the first time, the helmet literally
    stuck on the back of the headrest, shoving the helmet right down over my
    eyes. No amount of adjustment - tight or light - would work, so I just
    gave up and took it off completely. I'm thinking I'll just get one of
    those skateboarder shell-like helms instead, since they have a really high
    back.

    Thing is, they're probably hotter than bike helmets.

    Quoted message said:

    Eh. CA has no helmet rule if you're over 17. I'm going to make my first
    commute tomorrow without one, although at lunch I plan to ride over to the
    downtown area bike shop and get one that better-fits me.

    I wonder if there's a bike helmet that can accommodate a head-rest on a
    'bent. I doubt it.

    Quoted message said:

    Sweet. I would imagine that gives you a soft ride. I have full
    suspension on my DF "MTB" (I assume that's Mountain Bike), and it's very
    nice at the cost of some speed. I don't mind the bumps and bangs -- yet..
    Although I've yet to hit anything that really jars me, either.

    I wonder how that would be on a hard-tail 'bent. Really curious.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for that! That looks to be just the ticket. Will help my
    allergies, to boot (The Sacramento Valley is a deathtrap for pollen during
    the spring bloom)

    When will you get one? I've ordered one already, and will post
    comments after I try it out.

    Quoted message said:

    <SNIP>

    (*chuckle*) I don't plan to ride up and order any bronto-ribs just yet..

    Actually, I was thinking of the DIY ethos...'member how the citizens of
    Bedrock paid a seashell to get in the bus? And then they all picked it
    up and ran!

    Seeing the ActionBent website made me think of that...I imagined myself
    paying for a bike which I then had to weld together and saw and
    paint.... =)

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    Hmm. Then that could be bad. I *really* tightened it down - prior to the
    screw breaking off, and it hasn't wiggled since.. But, if it starts to
    wiggle any further, I'm gonna need that screw replaced... And I'll have to
    drill it out. 🙁

    Oh, doesn't anyone out there know? HELLO??? What does it mean for the
    steering mechanism to swing back and forth about ten degrees??

    Have you contacted that Randy Schulman? He must know!

    Quoted message said:

    I hope so indeed - that will knock the price down in parts for all of us!

    Hmm...the parts are supposed to be "regular" bicycle components -- I
    think the only price that will come down is the bike itself, given
    economies of scale...I keep wondering what it'll take to make this
    market explode...should be an interesting research project for some MBA
    candidate.

    Quoted message said:

    The room's supposed to be guarded by security. I may have my
    welding-hobby brother-in-law weld on a security loop that I can thread
    some locking chain on it for when I'm not at work, but at this point, the
    Kryptonite u-loop lock that I've had for 12 years is going to have to do.

    I've already got it planned out how I'd lock my SWB -- with that
    six-foot Kryptonite chain and lock!

    Quoted message said:

    Thank you for the welcoming! For the record, I would recommend this
    bike to a newbie (like me) who want to at least give it a whirl. And
    yes, I wouldn't mind *too* terribly much losing this one, although
    I've certainly never spent so much for a bike before in my life. As
    for my travails, I'll be happy to share..

    That reminds me: the ActionBents do seem to "look alike" for some
    reason...how did you come to choose yours? I mean, I know you said you
    decided that the Metro was the best for urban commuting, but what made
    you think so, exactly? The one I'm interested in one day is the
    high-racer. Rather expensive for an ActionBent, especially given the
    specs (except for the nice 27-lb. weight), though.

    Quoted message said:

    Day 2: What a difference a day makes!
    After work, I was itching to give it another ride, so I dressed
    comfortably and took off again around the neighborhood. What a complete
    difference from yesterday! I had confidence, balance, and felt absolutely
    comfortable, from startup to stopping. This time, I did some full stops,
    practicing gearing down as part of the stop itself. Starting up is *SO*
    much easier in low gear.. The 'Metro didn't wobble at all in a startup at
    gears 2-2.. Felt fantastic!! I even did some medium-speed cornering and
    practiced some 'wiggling' at lower speed to emulate steering around
    debris. All as comfortable as I could hope to be...

    I know what you mean! I was really surprised by my second day, too. I
    just took to it, and was turning my head back like I do on my DF
    without realizing it!

    Quoted message said:

    Although (*hee*) I
    did fall over on a full stop once.. Couldn't get my foot down quite
    correctly, but the lay down was almost like just rolling over from a
    sit-down position.. No pain at all.

    Yep. Now the only thing that scares me is that I ain't scared!

    Quoted message said:

    I absolutely *LOVE* this bike... With the exception of having to drill my
    own seat mounting. I will be commuting to work tomorrow..

    Just be careful out there! Ride defensively! Don't mean to sound like
    your mom, but there are two 'bent vets I sort of know who were messed
    up pretty bad by some drivers, so it can definitely happen to us giddy
    newbies champing at the bit.

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  13. KF said:

    hi, blah,blah,...

    Quite illuminating.

  14. NYC XYZ said:

    Why did you choose OSS? To me, USS is more "faithful" to the spirit
    and promise of recumbent riding!

    I just felt that I'd be able to control a SWB more in traffic with OSS;
    wider 'play' in the steering mechanism. If I were to decide now, I might
    have chosen differently, if only because my legs get sweaty and sometimes
    slightly 'catch' on the side of the steering/handlebar column. But
    overall, I think I made a good decision. I'm loving it more and more as I
    ride it. 😄

    Quoted message said:
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    [chopped]
    When I put it on and leaned back for the first time, the


    helmet literally

    Quoted message said:
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    stuck on the back of the headrest, shoving the helmet right down over
    my eyes. No amount of adjustment - tight or light - would work, so I
    just gave up and took it off completely. I'm thinking I'll just get
    one of those skateboarder shell-like helms instead, since they have a
    really high back.

    Thing is, they're probably hotter than bike helmets.

    Yes, very likely... And in Sacramento CA, where the mid-summer highs can
    reach 105ish, that will most-definitely be a factor of concern. So far,
    during the three commutes I've done, I've not worn a helmet. I am actually
    more likely right now to stay helmet-less. I have an idea for the back
    mirror that will require some interesting mounting design; if it works, I
    won't have to worry about a helmet mirror, either.

    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if there's a bike helmet that can accommodate a head-rest on a
    'bent. I doubt it.

    More and more, I'm doubting it as well. My head comes *SO* nicely up
    against the headrest. It's very comfortable. And, since I know I'm not
    going head-over-handlebars in the smallest head-on, I'm considering just
    sticking with the mask and goggles/sunglasses to keep the bugs out.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sweet. I would imagine that gives you a soft ride. I have full
    suspension on my DF "MTB" (I assume that's Mountain Bike), and it's
    very nice at the cost of some speed. I don't mind the bumps and bangs
    -- yet.. Although I've yet to hit anything that really jars me, either.


    I wonder how that would be on a hard-tail 'bent. Really curious.

    That's me.. I feel *every* bump... Even as small as the change in height
    from the road surface paint. My work has a cobblestone driveway -- I have
    to get off the bike once I get there.. heh

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    [re: mask]


    When will you get one? I've ordered one already, and will post comments
    after I try it out.

    Dunno yet. I'd like to hear your input before dropping cash on it.
    (*hint*)

    Quoted message said:

    [re: Flintstones, "DIY Bus"]
    Seeing the ActionBent website made me think of that...I imagined myself
    paying for a bike which I then had to weld together and saw and
    paint.... =)

    Hee. It was almost that, quite definitely. They did send along some
    touch-up paint.

    Quoted message said:
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    [re: broken screw]


    Oh, doesn't anyone out there know? HELLO??? What does it mean for the
    steering mechanism to swing back and forth about ten degrees??

    Actually, I just went to the local hardware store and bought a
    stronger-alloyed version of the screw that sheared off. Upon tightening
    it down, I realize that that screw indeed kept the steering mechanism
    solid.. And it made a *HUGE* difference in control. I feel tons safer,
    which of course has only served to increase my enjoyment!!

    Quoted message said:

    Have you contacted that Randy Schulman? He must know!

    I left e-mail through the 'feedback' area, but only got an automated
    response and no actual response. Eh, I'm not going to fret it -- I solved
    the problem myself.

    [snipped convo about parts]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The room's supposed to be guarded by security. I may have my
    welding-hobby brother-in-law weld on a security loop that I can thread
    some locking chain on it for when I'm not at work, but at this point,
    the Kryptonite u-loop lock that I've had for 12 years is going to have
    to do.


    I've already got it planned out how I'd lock my SWB -- with that
    six-foot Kryptonite chain and lock!

    Heh.. That conjures up the scene from Pee Wee's Big Adventure where he
    locks his bike with at least 100 feet of chain. 😉

    Quoted message said:

    That reminds me: the ActionBents do seem to "look alike" for some
    reason...how did you come to choose yours? I mean, I know you said you
    decided that the Metro was the best for urban commuting, but what made
    you think so, exactly? The one I'm interested in one day is the
    high-racer. Rather expensive for an ActionBent, especially given the
    specs (except for the nice 27-lb. weight), though.

    Very simple.. It was the least-expensive. Other factors weighed in: It
    was a SWB, and I had plans to buy a SWB. In addition, it is an OSS, which
    was my first choice for high-traffic commuting. But really, it was
    cheaper by at least $300.. The whole kit and caboodle was $940, delivered
    - that included the rack, the set of handlebar mirrors, the speedometer,
    the kickstand, and the seat upgrade. Yeah, it cost me a weekend building
    it, but it was a great learning experience for me.

    [paring down Day 2]

    Quoted message said:
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    Day 2: What a difference a day makes! After work, I was itching to give
    fantastic!! I even did some medium-speed cornering and practiced some
    'wiggling' at lower speed to emulate steering around debris. All as
    comfortable as I could hope to be...


    I know what you mean! I was really surprised by my second day, too. I
    just took to it, and was turning my head back like I do on my DF without
    realizing it!

    Yup. Although, I haven't been comfortable enough to twist my head around.
    I am and will be very much relying on my mirror[s].

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Although (*hee*) I
    did fall over on a full stop once.. Couldn't get my foot down quite
    correctly, but the lay down was almost like just rolling over from a
    sit-down position.. No pain at all.


    Yep. Now the only thing that scares me is that I ain't scared!



    I've become more and more confident in my riding skills as my experience
    has granted me. I'm starting to relax; steering, stopping, and starting
    (as well as gear down-shifting and up-shifting) have started already to
    become second-nature.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I absolutely *LOVE* this bike... With the exception of having to drill
    my own seat mounting. I will be commuting to work tomorrow..


    Just be careful out there! Ride defensively! Don't mean to sound like
    your mom, but there are two 'bent vets I sort of know who were messed up
    pretty bad by some drivers, so it can definitely happen to us giddy
    newbies champing at the bit.



    MOST definitely! I am always trying to be fully and completely aware of
    my immediate surroundings -- cars, bikes, pedestrians, obstacles,
    objects... So far, people see me just because they're seeing something
    that in the back of their head says "Hey, that's different!" I see a lot
    of folks looking up in their rear-view mirrors as they pass by. Kinda
    cool. 🙂

    [Day 3, 4, 5: The Commutes]
    So, I've ridden the twelve-mile round-trip three times, now. Absolutely
    no problems on any of the three -- that is, once I figured out to buy a
    tightening screw. I am "challenging" myself aerobically, but once I get
    off, I have no pains anywhere. This is wonderful! On my old DF, I used
    to get back pains, neck strains, sore wrists, strained calves, and the ol'
    Male Pressure Point Problem. The only thing that I'm feeling - during the
    ride - is my knees getting a work-out.. And it's not even really the knee
    - more like the ligament connecting to the top of my thigh, front of the
    upper leg. I have definitely learned a few things, though:
    1) Very definitely, the days of hands-free riding are O-V-E-R... In
    fact, the days of one-handed riding are pretty much done. The steering
    is quite twitchy; having one hand on the handlebars is a conscious
    bit of work.
    2) Mirrors will be very necessary. I am planning on building a mounting
    device that will attach to my seat from the back, placing a car rear-
    view mirror right in the same place that I would have in a car. I'll
    be able to flick my eyes up into the mirror.
    3) I'M HAVING A BLAST!!! 🙂

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