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  1. Yes yes, i know, ive only had my clipless pedals a couple of weeks!!

    Already my right shoe has "thrown a screw" and my cleat isnt as firm/secure
    as it was. Ive tightended it up but i dont know how long it will last.
    noticed it this morning that my right foot wouldnt engage in the clip.
    Looked at it and I had lost the left hand screw and the cleat was now
    pointing at nearly 90 degrees!!!

    My question is, can you buy just new cleats (or even better, the screws) cos
    I cant seem to see them anywhere without the pedals (on google).

    Anyone have a clue?

    Lee

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes yes, i know, ive only had my clipless pedals a couple of weeks!!

    Already my right shoe has "thrown a screw" and my cleat isnt as firm/secure
    as it was. Ive tightended it up but i dont know how long it will last.
    noticed it this morning that my right foot wouldnt engage in the clip.
    Looked at it and I had lost the left hand screw and the cleat was now
    pointing at nearly 90 degrees!!!

    My question is, can you buy just new cleats (or even better, the screws) cos
    I cant seem to see them anywhere without the pedals (on google).

    Anyone have a clue?

    These days, most bike screws are metric. Pop down to your local DIY shop
    (Or traditional hardware store if you have one) and find yourself a box
    of spares. It'll probably be cheaper than a replacement cleat.

    Jon

  3. Lee said:

    My question is, can you buy just new cleats (or even better, the
    screws) cos I cant seem to see them anywhere without the pedals (on
    google).

    http://wiggle.co.uk/v2_product_detail.asp?ProdID=5360013738

    --
    Brian G

    To reply, replace junk with brian

  4. "Brian G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    http://wiggle.co.uk/v2_product_detail.asp?ProdID=5360013738

    --
    Brian G

    To reply, replace junk with brian

    WOW, my pedals cost that much - id be better getting new pedals to go with
    the cleats!!!!!!!

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove says...

    Quoted message said:

    These days, most bike screws are metric. Pop down to your local DIY shop
    (Or traditional hardware store if you have one) and find yourself a box
    of spares. It'll probably be cheaper than a replacement cleat.

    To further that... the screw you are looking for is M5*12 CSK
    (Countersunk). You would probably want to try and get stainless steel,
    or some similar finish as they _are_ going to rust otherwise.

    Jon

  6. Lee said:

    My question is, can you buy just new cleats (or even better, the screws) cos
    I cant seem to see them anywhere without the pedals (on google).

    You can buy new cleats, eventually you'll have to once they're worn
    enough to spontaneously disengage. The screws are standard metric
    threaded countersunk ones, any decent hardware shop should be able to
    sort you.

    When you put the next lot in, put a little grease on the threads. That
    helps you tighten them up better, which keeps the cleat in pace as well
    as the screw.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  7. in message <[email hidden]>, Lee

    (') said:

    Yes yes, i know, ive only had my clipless pedals a couple of weeks!!

    Already my right shoe has "thrown a screw" and my cleat isnt as
    firm/secure
    as it was. Ive tightended it up but i dont know how long it will
    last. noticed it this morning that my right foot wouldnt engage in the
    clip. Looked at it and I had lost the left hand screw and the cleat
    was now pointing at nearly 90 degrees!!!

    My question is, can you buy just new cleats (or even better, the
    screws) cos I cant seem to see them anywhere without the pedals (on
    google).

    What sort of cleats? I might just have some spare screws.

    You can get spare cleats here (and at any LBS):
    <URL:http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?Category=pedal%20cleats>

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Lusers are from Uranus.

  8. "Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    WOW, my pedals cost that much - id be better getting new pedals to go with
    the cleats!!!!!!!

    You may be jesting but I have found some truth in your remark.
    The first pair of XT spd pedals I bought (Grandpa Simpson mode engaged) cost
    me nearly 100 quid and they had nifty plastic bearing sleeves that would
    seize and break during removal for service and were replaced with
    aftermarket aluminium ones for several quid more. At that time it made
    economic sense to buy new cleats, however with pedals that are actually
    better than that available for well under 30 quid, if you strike lucky, it
    seems more economical to replace pedals and cleats as a set.

    Pete

  9. Peter Clinch said:
    Lee said:

    My question is, can you buy just new cleats (or even better, the
    screws) cos
    I cant seem to see them anywhere without the pedals (on google).

    You can buy new cleats, eventually you'll have to once they're worn
    enough to spontaneously disengage. The screws are standard metric
    threaded countersunk ones, any decent hardware shop should be able to
    sort you.

    When you put the next lot in, put a little grease on the threads. That
    helps you tighten them up better, which keeps the cleat in pace as well
    as the screw.

    Better to put a little Locktite on the threads and tighten them
    to the correct torque.

  10. "Eiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Peter Clinch said:

    When you put the next lot in, put a little grease on the threads. That
    helps you tighten them up better, which keeps the cleat in pace as well
    as the screw.

    Better to put a little Locktite on the threads and tighten them
    to the correct torque.

    Not a good idea.
    I use copperease anti-seize grease and have never had a problem with them
    coming undone. Use Loctite and you may end up having to bin the shoes along
    with the cleats.

    Pete

  11. Peter B said:

    "Eiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Peter Clinch said:

    When you put the next lot in, put a little grease on the threads. That
    helps you tighten them up better, which keeps the cleat in pace as well
    as the screw.

    Better to put a little Locktite on the threads and tighten them
    to the correct torque.

    Not a good idea.
    I use copperease anti-seize grease and have never had a problem with them
    coming undone. Use Loctite and you may end up having to bin the shoes along
    with the cleats.

    Pete

    Loctite has never prevented a screw being undone.
    It has often prevented corrosion which can prevent a screw
    being unscrewed.

    The OP lost his screws because he undertightened the screws,
    a rare occurrence. Loctite would help that.
    I expect that most failures are caused by overtightening,
    and only a torque wrench can help that.

  12. Quoted message said:

    Loctite has never prevented a screw being undone.
    It has often prevented corrosion which can prevent a screw
    being unscrewed.

    I use Loctite on mine. Before I did I used to get cleats coming loose. Luckily
    I didn't lose screws or cleats. I spot of Loctite solved the problem. I can
    still unscrew and remove the cleats when I need to, but I no longer get them
    coming loose when I don't need it :-) Loctite works a treat - but you only need
    a tiny amount.

    Cheers, helen s

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  13. "Eiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Loctite has never prevented a screw being undone.
    It has often prevented corrosion which can prevent a screw
    being unscrewed.

    Perhaps so but a drawback on socket headed countersunk screws is that the
    socket is small in relation to the thread diameter and there is nothing else
    to get a grip on, unlike say a cap head screw.
    I'm sure somewhere in the mists of time I've had to use a drill to remove
    cleats, probably why I started using copperease, but have never suffered
    from cleats coming loose so never thought of nor needed Loctite, but I am a
    very small sample of the total market :-)

    Pete

  14. Eiron said:

    The OP lost his screws because he undertightened the screws,
    a rare occurrence.

    Or possibly because he overtightened them and damaged the threads perhaps?

    d.

  15. Eiron said:

    Loctite has never prevented a screw being undone.

    Don't tell the manufacturer - they claim that 2701 is suitable for
    permanently locking studs on engine blocks and pumps.

    And that's assuming that you mean loctite threadlock, rather than say,
    loctite epoxy, cyano, etc.

    regards, Ian SMith
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  16. "Ian Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Eiron said:

    Loctite has never prevented a screw being undone.

    Don't tell the manufacturer - they claim that 2701 is suitable for
    permanently locking studs on engine blocks and pumps.

    And that's assuming that you mean loctite threadlock, rather than say,
    loctite epoxy, cyano, etc.

    Not fair Mr. Smith, anything can be undone. Whether there is anything useful
    left afterward is another matter :-)

    Pete

  17. Peter B [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Not fair Mr. Smith, anything can be undone.

    For various values of "undone" obviously. I have undone a number of
    things recently with the aid of a drill.

    Quoted message said:

    Whether there is anything useful
    left afterward is another matter :-)

    See above! :-)

    Jon

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