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  1. Gah...was just tightening up back wheel to ensure chain tension for FR and
    realised that the nut wasn't getting tight as quickly as I'd expect. Took a
    moment to realise what was going on as it clearly hadn't stripped (and I
    know what a stripped thread feels like to tighten too). The back of the
    wheel nut has gone cone shaped and spread the dropout! The wheel is tight
    and ridable, but I'm not keen to leave it like that for long. The whole bike
    cost me $30 plus bits so I'm not about to shell out to have new dropouts
    welded in. Anyone got a small, fixie suitable frame they want to get rid of?

  2. Resound said:

    Gah...was just tightening up back wheel to ensure chain tension for FR and
    realised that the nut wasn't getting tight as quickly as I'd expect. Took a
    moment to realise what was going on as it clearly hadn't stripped (and I
    know what a stripped thread feels like to tighten too). The back of the
    wheel nut has gone cone shaped and spread the dropout! The wheel is tight
    and ridable, but I'm not keen to leave it like that for long. The whole bike
    cost me $30 plus bits so I'm not about to shell out to have new dropouts
    welded in. Anyone got a small, fixie suitable frame they want to get rid of?


    We know dropout spacing can be changed by 'cold setting' a la Sheldon Brown instructions. Could your dropouts be repaired by squeezing back to correct shape with a ...... big squeezing thing? [a simplistic approach that does not take account of metal fatigue, extent of existing deformation etc] Might be worth exploring further. And anyway if the frame is buggered, applying the hydraulic jack/bench vise/jaws of life won't bugger it any more.

    And maybe a big washer to stop the nut doing it again?

    SteveA

  3. Looks like I may have a replacement if nobody outbids me.
    *directs meaningful look around group*

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7150346939


  4. Quoted message said:

    We know dropout spacing can be changed by 'cold setting' a la Sheldon
    Brown instructions. Could your dropouts be repaired by squeezing back
    to correct shape with a ...... big squeezing thing? [a simplistic
    approach that does not take account of metal fatigue, extent of
    existing deformation etc] Might be worth exploring further. And
    anyway if the frame is buggered, applying the hydraulic jack/bench
    vise/jaws of life won't bugger it any more.

    And maybe a big washer to stop the nut doing it again?

    SteveA

    --
    SteveA

    The frame itself is fine. It's actually the stamped dropout itself that's
    spread/squished; that is, the side of the slot where the axle goes are
    neither straight nor parallel. And I'm getting proper track nuts next time,
    I think.

  5. Resound said:

    Looks like I may have a replacement if nobody outbids me.
    *directs meaningful look around group*

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7150346939

    *oblivious*

    Hey, thanks dude, I was looking for one of those. Better get my bid-on!

    :P

    Tam

    (Tee hee, I said "bid-on" and I'm a triathlete so someone's gonna pay me
    out for how many bidons I've already got... except I beat them to it.)

  6. "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Resound said:

    Looks like I may have a replacement if nobody outbids me.
    *directs meaningful look around group*

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7150346939

    *oblivious*

    Hey, thanks dude, I was looking for one of those. Better get my bid-on!

    :P

    Tam

    (Tee hee, I said "bid-on" and I'm a triathlete so someone's gonna pay me
    out for how many bidons I've already got... except I beat them to it.)

    Could have been worse. You could have been from far north Qld and said
    "Better get in my bid, eh?"

  7. Resound said:


    "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Resound said:

    Looks like I may have a replacement if nobody outbids me.
    *directs meaningful look around group*

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7150346939

    *oblivious*

    Hey, thanks dude, I was looking for one of those. Better get my bid-on!

    :P

    Tam

    (Tee hee, I said "bid-on" and I'm a triathlete so someone's gonna pay me
    out for how many bidons I've already got... except I beat them to it.)

    Could have been worse. You could have been from far north Qld and said
    "Better get in my bid, eh?"

    I didn't get that at first. Then I said it out loud with my best
    impression of FNQ accent.

    Tam

  8. "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Resound said:


    "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Resound wrote:

    > Looks like I may have a replacement if nobody outbids me.
    > *directs meaningful look around group*
    >
    > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7150346939
    >

    *oblivious*

    Hey, thanks dude, I was looking for one of those. Better get my bid-on!

    :P

    Tam

    (Tee hee, I said "bid-on" and I'm a triathlete so someone's gonna pay me
    out for how many bidons I've already got... except I beat them to it.)

    Could have been worse. You could have been from far north Qld and said
    "Better get in my bid, eh?"

    I didn't get that at first. Then I said it out loud with my best
    impression of FNQ accent.

    Tam

    I lived in Cairns for 18 months a few years back. I've mostly recovered now,
    and haven't even had to resort to therapy!

  9. Resound said:


    Quoted message said:

    We know dropout spacing can be changed by 'cold setting' a la Sheldon
    Brown instructions. Could your dropouts be repaired by squeezing back
    to correct shape with a ...... big squeezing thing? [a simplistic
    approach that does not take account of metal fatigue, extent of
    existing deformation etc] Might be worth exploring further. And
    anyway if the frame is buggered, applying the hydraulic jack/bench
    vise/jaws of life won't bugger it any more.

    And maybe a big washer to stop the nut doing it again?

    SteveA

    --
    SteveA

    The frame itself is fine. It's actually the stamped dropout itself that's
    spread/squished; that is, the side of the slot where the axle goes are
    neither straight nor parallel. And I'm getting proper track nuts next time,
    I think.

    I was a bit unclear - I knew what you meant. I was trying to say apply the force to the sides of the stamped drop out itself to reverse what the nut had done. I reckon metal fatigue may defeat the exercise however.

    SteveA

  10. "SteveA" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Resound said:


    Quoted message said:

    We know dropout spacing can be changed by 'cold setting' a la Sheldon
    Brown instructions. Could your dropouts be repaired by squeezing back
    to correct shape with a ...... big squeezing thing? [a simplistic
    approach that does not take account of metal fatigue, extent of
    existing deformation etc] Might be worth exploring further. And
    anyway if the frame is buggered, applying the hydraulic jack/bench
    vise/jaws of life won't bugger it any more.

    And maybe a big washer to stop the nut doing it again?

    SteveA

    --
    SteveA

    The frame itself is fine. It's actually the stamped dropout itself
    that's
    spread/squished; that is, the side of the slot where the axle goes are
    neither straight nor parallel. And I'm getting proper track nuts next
    time,
    I think.

    I was a bit unclear - I knew what you meant. I was trying to say apply
    the force to the sides of the stamped drop out itself to reverse what
    the nut had done. I reckon metal fatigue may defeat the exercise
    however.

    SteveA

    --
    SteveA


    Oh, I did that. A bit of light remedial therapy with a ball-pein hammer (I
    don't own a suitable clamp) got the slot more or less parallel, but it's
    squashed too. Imagine a dropout made of plasticine and squash with your
    thumb and forefinger where the wheel bolts on.

  11. Tamyka Bell said:
    Resound said:

    Looks like I may have a replacement if nobody outbids me.
    *directs meaningful look around group*

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7150346939

    *oblivious*
    Hey, thanks dude, I was looking for one of those. Better get my bid-on!

    It's mine mine ALL MINE!!!!

    Quoted message said:

    (Tee hee, I said "bid-on" and I'm a triathlete so someone's gonna pay me
    out for how many bidons I've already got... except I beat them to it.)

    Only 18 I heard.. pfft.. you must only do Olympic distance :P

    What you need is a hydration pack:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/jan05/AORC05/?id=AORC053/IMG_4631

    Hey, it works for O'Neil! He's only won the last million Oz TT Champs..

    hydrated hippy

  12. quote='hippy'Tamyka Bell said:
    Resound said:

    Looks like I may have a replacement if nobody outbids me.
    *directs meaningful look around group*

    cgi.ebay.com.aueBayISAPI.dll

    *oblivious*
    Hey, thanks dude, I was looking for one of those. Better get my bid-on!

    It's mine mine ALL MINE!!!!

    Quoted message said:

    (Tee hee, I said "bid-on" and I'm a triathlete so someone's gonna pay me
    out for how many bidons I've already got... except I beat them to it.)

    Only 18 I heard.. pfft.. you must only do Olympic distance :P

    What you need is a hydration pack:
    cyclingnews.comAORC05

    Hey, it works for O'Neil! He's only won the last million Oz TT Champs..

    hydrated hippy[/QUOTE]

    Hippy,

    Pity you're not going to Japan. Tokyo has vending machines in the street that pop out mini-kegs of beer. Has all the popular Japanese beer brands. About 2 litres in each from memory.

    They come with a little tap that you screw into them.

    Now that's what I call getting hydrated

    SteveA

  13. SteveA said:

    Pity you're not going to Japan. Tokyo has vending machines in the
    street that pop out mini-kegs of beer. Has all the popular Japanese
    beer brands. About 2 litres in each from memory.

    They come with a little tap that you screw into them.
    Now that's what I call getting hydrated

    I didn't see the kegs when I was there, but they certainly had beer
    vending machines. You could get Asahi Super Dry in 375ml, 500ml and 1L
    cans!!!!! 1L cans of beer!!! from a vending machine!!! on plain, old
    streets!!!
    I have an empty one at home as a reminder of how vending machines CAN be
    used for good! 🙂

    hippy-san

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