New Qu-ax 36"

innes said:

Is the wide hub, and option of a braking surface of the Unicycle.com
36", worth the weight of a steel rim?

UDC also sells an aluminum rim that can take the wide hub and has a
braking surface, similar to the Qu-Ax rim but called an airfoil...did
you already know this and just don't want it? or did you only know of
their steel rim?

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That would add a lot to the cost.

I take it you buy the rim, then have to get your wheel rebuilt?

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Well, sure the aluminum rim costs more than the steel rim, but on UDC US
you can get the "Deluxe" 36" with the aluminum Airfoil built into the
wheel. I assumed it was the same on UDC UK, but after a quick glance
at their site...I guess they don't...so you're right. 🙁

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I've got one and Dustin Schaap has it also (he had probably the first
one 🙂 )

innes said:

I read that it didn't have a braking surface, so brakes are going to be
out of the

I can provide you with some images of the rim if you want. I suppose
the problem with brakes is due to the side of the rim
being not straight (it's rounded a bit inward) so the brakes wouldn't
probably work correctly.
'Here is' (http://tinyurl.com/2pqrk6) the close-up of the rim. Mind,
that this perspective makes the inward rounding even bigger that it is
in realilty.

Quoted message said:

question. Does anyone have one of these? Is the hub good, or would I
be better getting a Unicycle.com 36" instead?
The Qu-ax has an aluminium rim, and ISIS axle. Is the wide hub, and
option of a braking surface of the Unicycle.com 36", worth the weight
of a steel rim?

I'm not the authority on 36ers, but from what people said I deduce wide
and extrawide hub were invented only to make
the wheel less flexible. Now, since the Qu-ax wheel has 48 spokes and
there is probably no need for wide hub as it's stiff
enough already (I suppose... I had no comparison), am I right? Plus,
narrow hub gives less wobble.

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j-n said:

I'm not the authority on 36ers, but from what people said I deduce wide
and extrawide hub were invented only to make
the wheel less flexible. Now, since the Qu-ax wheel has 48 spokes and
there is probably no need for wide hub as it's stiff
enough already (I suppose... I had no comparison), am I right? Plus,
narrow hub gives less wobble.

If the 48 spoke rim really does increase the stiffness comparably to a
wide hub, I'd think it could be rather awesome... The wheel might be
heavier, which is not so good, but having a narrower hub is supposed to
improve the achievable cadences.

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innes said:

That would add a lot to the cost.

I take it you buy the rim, then have to get your wheel rebuilt?

I think udc uk will sell you a uni with the airfoil rim if you phone em
up.

With the wide hub thing, a narrow hub doesn't make much difference if
you don't run brakes anyway.

The Qu-ax is 48 spoke though, which is a downer, because it means you
can only ever upgrade to qu-ax parts, as the standard for all other
parts is 36 spokes.

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I wonder if that curvature is too deep to shape some Magura brake pads
to match it? It sure would be cool to have that Isis hub with some Isis
double drilled KH cranks.

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pdc said:

I wonder if that curvature is too deep to shape some Magura brake pads
to match it? It sure would be cool to have that Isis hub with some Isis
double drilled KH cranks.

The problem with that is that is it's even slightly off true at any
point, or the bearings or wheel has any wobble in it, you'll get very
uneven braking.

If you really want the double-drilled cranks, you could use the UDC
isis hub or the KH isis hub on a normal coker anyway.

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joemarshall said:

The problem with that is that is it's even slightly off true at any
point, or the bearings or wheel has any wobble in it, you'll get very
uneven braking.

If you really want the double-drilled cranks, you could use the UDC
isis hub or the KH isis hub on a normal coker anyway.

Joe

True Dat. But I was thinking that if you were using a narrow hub
(Isis-KH or QuAx), it would be nice for the added wheel strength of 48
spokes.

PS - I didn't know UDC made an Isis hub.

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pdc said:

PS - I didn't know UDC made an Isis hub.

Yeah it's in their new nimbus street unicycle.

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I think I will go for the Nimbus 36".

It looks great, I can fit a V brake to it with adaptors, and if I want
I can upgrade the rim in the future. That was a good point that if I
went for the Qu-ax, I would have to use Qu-ax parts.

Thanks for the replys.

Innes

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Why the v-brake over the maguras? you can get them dirt cheap (like
£10.50 for the set on my N36) on ebay and you're going to need some
fairly specialist v-brakes to clear over the top of the frame.

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I already have the V brakes.

Do you think they would hit the frame? I thought the link between the
two brake parts would be no higher than a loop between Maguras.

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A UDC 36" with a calliper brake may be a better option, and a cheaper
option. I have a few weeks to decide.

I don't really want to go down the Magura route for a 36" unicycle, I
will only be using as a way to slow down on hills, not hold the wheel
firmly stopped as you would with a trials unicycle.

The UDC 36" is out of stock just now though, I wonder if it will be
back in stock soon?

Innes

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Actually, trials unicyclists don't use brakes...only trials bikers.
Mostly muni riders use Magura brakes for descending hills and stuff,
and I believe they use Maguras not for their stopping power (you don't
want to lock up the wheel on a unicycle, for obvious reasons 🙂 ) but
rather because V-brakes can't fit around a 3" tire.

They're fine to use on a coker, if you're careful about applying them,
they don't lock the wheel.

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I don't know if I will use a brake anyway, it my be fine with out one.

I am planning on using the unicycle for a local duathlon next year that
I normally do with a road bike, and it has a few decent hills to
descend. I will try it without first.

Like I have said, I have a few weeks to decide which unicycle to get.

All this feedback helps though, I would never of thought about the
frame fouling a V brake on a Nimbus, but it is quite obvious now. This
forum can be a big help at times.

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So which 36er if any did you get?

I'm currently interested in the Qu-ax 36er.

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I got a QU-AX 36" recently, and I have no trouble with it. Except, the
seat is a bit stiff. I changed it with the one I got from my cross 20"

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