New shoes

Just zis Guy said:

I've just been shopping for a pair of shoes

On the face of it they seem very warm, they are made of good thick
fabric with a Goretex lining, and they are wider than $himano shoes
(not hard), but they are fitted only for Look so I will have to go
back to walking like a duck around the station.

This is at least in part a response to getting very cold indeed on the
ride home on Friday. Temperatures were about 5ºC, not even that cold
really, but my toes went white, which is rarely a good sign.

Sounds you've got them just in time.
There are presently icy lumps falling from the sky just 20 miles south
of you.

John B

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>typed

Quoted message said:

You're everywhere and nowhere Angie
That's where you're at
Pretending all you need for safety
Is a plastic hat
Lying all around the country
And getting fat
Saying Aussie laws are working
When the figures are flat

Quoted message said:

And it's hi-ho polystyrene
And away you go now Angie
I see BeHIT is lying
And I will make a fuss
'Cos it's obvious

Nice one!

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote ...

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I've just been shopping for a pair of shoes which are wide enough for
British Standard Feet, and some bibtights big enough for British
Standard Blokes. For some reason I have to buy XL or XXL in bike
shorts, I think they are referring to extra extra large Italian
midgets.

Afer much trial and error I settled on some de Marchi tights and a
pair of Northwave Fahrenheit shoes like these:
http://www.fisheroutdoor.co.uk/public/index.php/product/N141.html

On the face of it they seem very warm, they are made of good thick
fabric with a Goretex lining, and they are wider than $himano shoes
(not hard), but they are fitted only for Look so I will have to go
back to walking like a duck around the station.

This is at least in part a response to getting very cold indeed on the
ride home on Friday. Temperatures were about 5ºC, not even that cold
really, but my toes went white, which is rarely a good sign.
Guy

What kind of hat are you wearing? Are you wearing any kind of long underwear
under the tights? 5deg C (41 deg Fahrenheit?) is just not cold enough for a
healthy person's toes to go white. I've found that keeping my head and torso
insulated (and protected from wind, on a bicycle) does more to keep my feet
warm than heavily insulated shoes. I've also found that neoprene booties
will make just about any shoe much, much warmer.
--
mark

Just zis Guy said:

You're everywhere and nowhere Angie
That's where you're at
Pretending all you need for safety
Is a plastic hat
Lying all around the country
And getting fat
Saying Aussie laws are working
When the figures are flat

And it's hi-ho polystyrene
And away you go now Angie
I see BeHIT is lying
And I will make a fuss
'Cos it's obvious

Guy

You didn't finish it with the last verse

Martlew's in your pocket Angie,
And the BMA
Anything you want is yours now
Only nothing is for free.
Lies are gonna get you some day
Just wait and see.
So put on your plastic helmet
While you're watching TV

[chorus]

Tony

mark [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

What kind of hat are you wearing? Are you wearing any kind of long underwear
under the tights? 5deg C (41 deg Fahrenheit?) is just not cold enough for a
healthy person's toes to go white. I've found that keeping my head and torso
insulated (and protected from wind, on a bicycle) does more to keep my feet
warm than heavily insulated shoes. I've also found that neoprene booties
will make just about any shoe much, much warmer.

Possibly largely to do with his riding style (Legs above bum!). While
neoprene overshoes work brilliantly on uprights, I've yet to evaluate
their usefulness on recumbents.

Jon

"Jon Senior"

Quoted message said:

Possibly largely to do with his riding style (Legs above bum!). While
neoprene overshoes work brilliantly on uprights, I've yet to evaluate
their usefulness on recumbents.

Jon

Having feet out in front would indeed expose them to more cooling airflow,
which is a good reason to shun the dark side in cold weather. Since the
neoprene overshoes cover the sole of the shoe as well as the upper (except
for a cutout for the cleats), I suspect that they would offer a decent
amount of protection from cold air whether the wearer had his legs above or
below his/her bum. I remain convinced that clothing the rest of one's body
properly is the key to warm feet, regardless of riding position.
--
mark

mark said:

"Jon Senior"

Quoted message said:

Possibly largely to do with his riding style (Legs above bum!). While
neoprene overshoes work brilliantly on uprights, I've yet to evaluate
their usefulness on recumbents.

Jon

Having feet out in front would indeed expose them to more cooling airflow,
which is a good reason to shun the dark side in cold weather.

Unless you fit a fairing.
I find my Streamer makes a big difference to warmth.

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I remain convinced that clothing the rest of one's body
properly is the key to warm feet, regardless of riding position.

I agree - with special attention always being given to a woolly hat (or two).

John B

mark [email hidden] opined the following...

Quoted message said:

Having feet out in front would indeed expose them to more cooling airflow,
which is a good reason to shun the dark side in cold weather. Since the
neoprene overshoes cover the sole of the shoe as well as the upper (except
for a cutout for the cleats), I suspect that they would offer a decent
amount of protection from cold air whether the wearer had his legs above or
below his/her bum. I remain convinced that clothing the rest of one's body
properly is the key to warm feet, regardless of riding position.

Y Neoprene Over Shoes MV! Mine have no neoprene on the sole, but have a
rubber toecap and a velcro strap.

And... what John said. If I can justify the expense, I'll probably buy a
Streamer at some point (I don't know that I have the patience to build
an oven and make my own!).

Jon

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:42:10 +0000, JohnB <[email hidden]> wrote in
message <[email hidden]>:

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Sounds you've got them just in time.
There are presently icy lumps falling from the sky just 20 miles south
of you.

Actually falling on my head earlier today, but all gone now.

Guy
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 14:56:40 GMT, "mark" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message <[email hidden]>:

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What kind of hat are you wearing?

A nice warm one :-)

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Are you wearing any kind of long underwear under the tights?

No, but I was wearing neoprene overshoes.

Quoted message said:

5deg C (41 deg Fahrenheit?) is just not cold enough for a
healthy person's toes to go white.

Your toes may vary. Mine have always been inclined to this since I
got trench foot on a walking expedition in Wales.

Quoted message said:

I've found that keeping my head and torso
insulated (and protected from wind, on a bicycle) does more to keep my feet
warm than heavily insulated shoes. I've also found that neoprene booties
will make just about any shoe much, much warmer.

See above. A high BB recumbent is actually somewhat worse for this
than a wedgie, although a fairing is alleged to help. But narrow
shoes are definitely part of the problem - or were until today :-)

Guy
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