New swimming stroke

"Tim" left this mess on Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:38:12 +0100 for The Way to clean up:

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I was wondering......are there any new strokes still awaiting to appear (maybe in development) that
will be fast enough to use in race's of the future. THis may be just silly, but when I was a kid I
would try and invent a new strokes, my fastest was call the 'corkscrew'. I would twirl through the
water (not going very fast)....But with as much pratice as I have out into FS maybe it would be
something

We used to do that in training, to better get a feel for grabbing a "handful" of water and pulling
against it. Just continue the arm sweep, but bring it across your body, simultaneously turning your
body with your arm.

Only problem with it, of course, is maintaining a straight line in a lane. Not likely to be a
competitive stroke.

Tao te Carl

"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

de Valois said:

"Tim" left this mess on Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:38:12 +0100 for The Way to clean up:

Quoted message said:

I was wondering......are there any new strokes still awaiting to appear (maybe in development)
that will be fast enough to use in race's of the future. THis may be just silly, but when I was a
kid I would try and invent a new strokes, my fastest was call the 'corkscrew'. I would twirl
through the water (not going very fast)....But with as much pratice as I have out into FS maybe it
would be something

We used to do that in training, to better get a feel for grabbing a "handful" of water and pulling
against it. Just continue the arm sweep, but bring it across your body, simultaneously turning
your body with your arm.

Only problem with it, of course, is maintaining a straight line in a lane. Not likely to be a
competitive stroke.

Tao te Carl

"It takes a village to have an idiot." - Carl (c) 2003

I'm sure this will never be a competitive stroke, but some of the people I swim with do backwards
freestyle. Imagine the freestyle armstroke run in reverse, pushing the back of your hand forward
against the water and travelling feet first. It's amazing how fast some people can do it.

Tim,

I vaguely remember discussions of trying to combine a dolphin kick with freestyle. Would be
lightning fast if it could be made to work.

AJ

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I was wondering......are there any new strokes still awaiting to appear (maybe in development)
that will be fast enough to use in race's of the future. THis may be just silly, but when I was a
kid I would try and invent a new strokes, my fastest was call the 'corkscrew'. I would twirl
through the water (not going very fast)....But with as much pratice as I have out into FS maybe it
would be something

T (in a daydream)

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Tim,

I vaguely remember discussions of trying to combine a dolphin kick with freestyle. Would be
lightning fast if it could be made to work.

This is a common drill that the coaches have us do where I swim. They also have us do the opposite:
flutter kicks with butterfly pulls. They have explanations about why these are good drills, but I
can't remember them at the moment.

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AJ

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I was wondering......are there any new strokes still awaiting to appear (maybe in development)
that will be fast enough to use in race's of the future. THis may be just silly, but when I was
a kid I would try and invent a new strokes, my fastest was call the 'corkscrew'. I would twirl
through the water (not going very fast)....But with as much pratice as I have out into FS maybe
it would be something

Andrew John said:

Tim,

I vaguely remember discussions of trying to combine a dolphin kick with freestyle. Would be
lightning fast if it could be made to work.

Someone tried that in a freestyle final at the last Olympics for the last few metres. He didn't win,
I'm not sure if it helped or not. It's in one of D G's swimming videos IIRC.
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BD

It was Michael Klim. He came 4th.

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Andrew John said:

Tim,

I vaguely remember discussions of trying to combine a dolphin kick with freestyle. Would be
lightning fast if it could be made to work.

Someone tried that in a freestyle final at the last Olympics for the last

few

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metres. He didn't win, I'm not sure if it helped or not. It's in one of D

G's

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swimming videos IIRC.
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BD

After breaking the wr on the relay.... He only did the dolphin kick in the last 15m or so though.

--Mike

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It was Michael Klim. He came 4th.

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Andrew John said:

Tim,

I vaguely remember discussions of trying to combine a dolphin kick with freestyle. Would be
lightning fast if it could be made to work.

Someone tried that in a freestyle final at the last Olympics for the last

few

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metres. He didn't win, I'm not sure if it helped or not. It's in one of D

G's

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swimming videos IIRC.
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BD

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Don

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It was Michael Klim. He came 4th.

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Andrew John said:

Tim,

I vaguely remember discussions of trying to combine a dolphin kick with freestyle. Would be
lightning fast if it could be made to work.

Someone tried that in a freestyle final at the last Olympics for the

last

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few

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metres. He didn't win, I'm not sure if it helped or not. It's in one of

D

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G's

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swimming videos IIRC.
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BD

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It was Michael Klim. He came 4th.

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On 3 Aug, "Andrew John" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I vaguely remember discussions of trying to combine a dolphin kick with freestyle. Would be
> lightning fast if it could be made to work.
>
Someone tried that in a freestyle final at the last Olympics for the

last few

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metres. He didn't win, I'm not sure if it helped or not. It's in one of

D G's

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swimming videos IIRC.
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BD

Love the head pop on these guys as they hit the wall, craning their necks to see their times before
their hands even hit.

Geez, guys, you only trained four years of your life for a 21 second race. For the love of God, at
least stay stream-lined with your head down until you hit the wall.

It sure looked like Popov led the 50m finals the whole way in Sydney then "pulled-out" pretty
radically a meter or so from the wall. Hall and Ervin stayed streamlined all the way in, and to the
victor go the spoils.

Eric