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  1. My name is Deva, and I must say I am disappointed that this
    group is argumentative. I am looking for individual human
    beings who are very ill, and are currently involved with
    the healing process of their bodies using whatever
    alternative methods, not sales people, people who think
    they have found the answer, or people who try to argue
    about scientific facts. I'm looking for a place just to
    share the information, on an individual basis, and not put
    anyone down.

    I am really disappointed that such a possibility for a great
    newsgroup, is so screwed up. Deva

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: New to this group
    From: [email hidden] (DeliciousLaugh)
    Date: 3/20/2004 6:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    My name is Deva,

    Hi Deva

    Quoted message said:

    who are very ill, and are currently involved with the
    healing process of their bodies using whatever

    Ok...seriously ill

    Quoted message said:

    or people who try to argue about scientific facts. I'm
    looking for

    but you are NOT interested in scientific facts??/

    hmmm...do you enjoy being seriously ill??

    just a thought hawki.....

  3. << but you are NOT interested in scientific facts??/

    hmmm...do you enjoy being seriously ill?? >>

    Hey, Hawki...this is not a "scientific ng", therefore,
    "scientific facts" have no bearing on discussion of
    alternative medicine....after all, it is conventional
    medicine that is opposing the evidence that alternative
    medicine practictioners have presented, and that would be
    conventional medicine's "fault".... how sad, it must be to
    live your life in a tunnel....with no open minded
    vision.....

    "If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance."
    (Jessie Winchester).

  4. "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    << but you are NOT interested in scientific facts??/

    hmmm...do you enjoy being seriously ill?? >>

    Hey, Hawki...this is not a "scientific ng", therefore,
    "scientific facts"


    have

    Quoted message said:

    no bearing on discussion of alternative medicine....after
    all, it is conventional medicine that is opposing the
    evidence that alternative


    medicine

    Quoted message said:

    practictioners have presented, and that would be
    conventional medicine's "fault".... how sad, it must be to
    live your life in a tunnel....with no open minded
    vision.....

    Scientific facts have bearing on everything. They define the
    truth about the nature of the universe. Understanding the
    laws of nature and insisting that they apply to alternative
    medicine like everything else is not closed minded. It is
    rational. The human body is comprised of organs, tissues,
    cells, and chemicals that work together in ways that we can
    learn about and understand. Science is the most effective
    way known to discover the truth about how our bodies are
    constructed and how they function.

    It is the alties who are closed-minded. They construct
    fantasies that feel good about what therapies would "work,"
    then collect the ever-available anecdotes to present as
    "proof." When challenged that their notions contradict known
    anatomical and physiological principles, they throw up their
    anecdotes again, crying, "If it works for all these people,
    science must be wrong, and you should be open-minded enough
    to accept it!" What the alties don't understand, is that
    anecdotal evidence will support ANY therapy. The shaman
    shaking rattles to chase out evil spirits can collect a
    horde of satisfied patients who will swear that they were
    cured by him. That does not prove the efficacy of the
    rattles, or the existence of the spirits, and an open mind
    is not compelled to adopt shamanism. The "psychic surgeons"
    who use the magician's arts of preparation, time shifting,
    deception, and distraction to create the illusion of
    removing "tumors" with their bare hands and without leaving
    wounds or scars create not only believing witnesses, but
    patients who will swear that they feel better than they have
    in years after undergoing the procedure. But it is still a
    trick and an open mind will admit it.

    There are no "alternatives" that exist outside of
    science. Scientific knowledge of the universe is not
    complete, but the universe that exists is consistent, and
    its nature and laws apply to every quark, atom, molecule,
    cell, human, planet, star, and galaxy out to the red-
    shifted margins of the begining of time. Aroma
    therapists, homeopaths, and ginsing salesmen do not get
    to make the rules. Nor violate them.

    --Rich

  5. Quoted message said:

    << but you are NOT interested in scientific facts??/

    hmmm...do you enjoy being seriously ill?? >>

    Hey, Hawki...this is not a "scientific ng",

    Despite that, you must respect science at ALL times.

  6. [email hidden] (DeliciousLaugh) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    My name is Deva, and I must say I am disappointed that
    this group is argumentative. I am looking for individual
    human beings who are very ill, and are currently involved
    with the healing process of their bodies using whatever
    alternative methods, not sales people, people who think
    they have found the answer, or people who try to argue
    about scientific facts. I'm looking for a place just to
    share the information, on an individual basis, and not put
    anyone down.

    I am really disappointed that such a possibility for a
    great newsgroup, is so screwed up. Deva

    Interesting dates on the headers of the first two posts in
    this thread. Five years ago?

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