New Toy!

Chris Eilbeck said:

Tell me what you think and I might tell you what I paid for it ;o)

Looks nice. Road bikes don't age anywhere near as quickly as mountain
bikes so there's a good few decades left in that one.

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

"Chris Eilbeck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Is this worth me spending a few quid and a bit of effort to fix up? I
don't seem to be able to find much info about it. It's a Scott AFD
308 fitted with a double and Shimano RSX brifters/transmission/brakes,
and Mavic CXP wheels. The back wheel definitely need respoking but
the rim itself seems ok.

http://www.hyperspace.org.uk/new-toy.jpg

Tell me what you think and I might tell you what I paid for it ;o)

Whatever it was, you got ripped off. And those things cost an arm and a leg
to get rid of.

Tell you what, email me, and I'll take it off your hands for nothing. 😉

Enjoy. It looks fun.

--
Ambrose

Chris Eilbeck said:

Is this worth me spending a few quid and a bit of effort to fix up? I
don't seem to be able to find much info about it. It's a Scott AFD
308 fitted with a double and Shimano RSX brifters/transmission/brakes,
and Mavic CXP wheels. The back wheel definitely need respoking but
the rim itself seems ok.

http://www.hyperspace.org.uk/new-toy.jpg

Tell me what you think and I might tell you what I paid for it ;o)

It doesn't look too bad at all. The photo makes it look like the forks
are slightly bent back, but that may be a perspective effect. Check the
toe overlap. The only other thing I would change before being seen in
public on it is the stem, which makes it look a bit cheap and dated
IMHO. I'd also put clipless pedals on it and give it a good service if
it has just arrived off eBay.

--

JimP

"I have nothing to say and I'm saying it" - John Cage

Chris Eilbeck said:

http://www.hyperspace.org.uk/new-toy.jpg

Tell me what you think and I might tell you what I paid for it ;o)

Never mind that, how much do you think the kitchen units and
appliances are worth? More or less than the bike folks?
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Phil Cook said:

Chris Eilbeck said:

http://www.hyperspace.org.uk/new-toy.jpg

Tell me what you think and I might tell you what I paid for it ;o)

Never mind that, how much do you think the kitchen units and
appliances are worth? More or less than the bike folks?

They're worth replacing for sure, came with the house. I just can't
get really motivated to spend good money on non-functional things like
that when there are toys to be had!

The bike cost me 50 quid. Probably need the same or a little more
spent on it to get it into good nick.

Chris
--
Chris Eilbeck

Chris Eilbeck said:

Phil Cook said:

Never mind that, how much do you think the kitchen units and
appliances are worth? More or less than the bike folks?

They're worth replacing for sure, came with the house. I just can't
get really motivated to spend good money on non-functional things like
that when there are toys to be had!

They're not non-functional, their function is to sit there and give
wives a reason to complain that they need updated.

Graeme (just about to move into a house with a kitchen that is several
steps below the one pictured above)

in message <[email hidden]>, Chris Eilbeck

(') said:

Is this worth me spending a few quid and a bit of effort to fix up? I
don't seem to be able to find much info about it. It's a Scott AFD
308 fitted with a double and Shimano RSX brifters/transmission/brakes,
and Mavic CXP wheels. The back wheel definitely need respoking but
the rim itself seems ok.

http://www.hyperspace.org.uk/new-toy.jpg

Tell me what you think and I might tell you what I paid for it ;o)

Interesting looking at good bikes of that generation. The steel forks
look very spindly in comparison to the aluminium frame. Apart from the
Shimano groupset it looks very nice indeed.

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; better than your average performing pineapple

Chris Eilbeck said:

Is this worth me spending a few quid and a bit of effort to fix up? I
don't seem to be able to find much info about it. It's a Scott AFD
308 fitted with a double and Shimano RSX brifters/transmission/brakes,
and Mavic CXP wheels. The back wheel definitely need respoking but
the rim itself seems ok.

http://www.hyperspace.org.uk/new-toy.jpg

Tell me what you think and I might tell you what I paid for it ;o)

Chris

Worth the money you paid, it has several attributes that I really
dislike about 'modern' bikes. Fat aluminium tubes, wierd shaped
'anatomic' handlebars. At least it has a decent number of spokes, a
parallel looking top tube and is not Campag.

Jim Price said:

It doesn't look too bad at all. The photo makes it look like the
forks are slightly bent back, but that may be a perspective
effect. Check the toe overlap.

It looks straight if you look straight down the head tube. Where do I
find out how far the axle should be in front of the line from the head
tube? I don't seem to be able to find much about this bike on the
web.

Quoted message said:

The only other thing I would change before being seen in public on
it is the stem, which makes it look a bit cheap and dated IMHO.

It's an old-style quill stem so the choice are limited. I see you can
buy an adaptor so you can put a threadless stem on it. Other than it
looking a bit more with-it, is there any definite benefit from making
the change to something like that? (assuming I can adjust everything
to where it needs to be with the equipment as is)

Quoted message said:

I'd also put clipless pedals on it and give it a good service if it
has just arrived off eBay.

This is all in process ;o)

Chris
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Chris Eilbeck

Chris Eilbeck said:

Jim Price said:

It doesn't look too bad at all. The photo makes it look like the
forks are slightly bent back, but that may be a perspective
effect. Check the toe overlap.

It looks straight if you look straight down the head tube. Where do I
find out how far the axle should be in front of the line from the head
tube? I don't seem to be able to find much about this bike on the
web.

It is highly unlikely that you'll be able to get measurements for the
original rake of the fork (I normally say that to make the next poster
look good). I would go for empiricism and check that there is no toe
overlap and the bike handles OK. If the fork has been bent back a bit
but there is no toe overlap it will just mean the handling is a bit more
stodgy-but-stable. I rode a bike like that for about 6 months before I
finally got hacked off with the toe overlap and bent the forks back to
where they should be.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The only other thing I would change before being seen in public on
it is the stem, which makes it look a bit cheap and dated IMHO.

It's an old-style quill stem so the choice are limited. I see you can
buy an adaptor so you can put a threadless stem on it. Other than it
looking a bit more with-it, is there any definite benefit from making
the change to something like that? (assuming I can adjust everything
to where it needs to be with the equipment as is)

No, it's just aesthetics, but because quill stems are out of fashion
there are a few very nice looking ones at very cheap prices if you know
where to look.
Buying the ahead adaptor will mean buying an ahead stem as well, which
would not be worth it as you would lose the easy height adjustability of
the quill stem and it would cost more.

--

JimP

" " - John Cage

Chris Eilbeck said:

It's an old-style quill stem so the choice are limited. I see you can
buy an adaptor so you can put a threadless stem on it. Other than it
looking a bit more with-it, is there any definite benefit from making
the change to something like that? (assuming I can adjust everything
to where it needs to be with the equipment as is)

QUill stems are easier to adjust, one bolt to change the height. No need
to remove anything, no spacers to mess around with. Ahead style stems
are allegedly lighter and some say stiffer but I suspect they read that
from the marketing blurb rather than noticed it for themselves.

in message <[email hidden]>, Chris Eilbeck

(') said:

Jim Price said:

The only other thing I would change before being seen in public on
it is the stem, which makes it look a bit cheap and dated IMHO.

It's an old-style quill stem so the choice are limited. I see you can
buy an adaptor so you can put a threadless stem on it. Other than it
looking a bit more with-it, is there any definite benefit from making
the change to something like that? (assuming I can adjust everything
to where it needs to be with the equipment as is)

No, slight disbenefit. It's harder to adjust ahead-type stems for height.

--
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;; All in all you're just another nick in the ball
-- Think Droid

Jim Price said:

Buying the ahead adaptor will mean buying an ahead stem as well, which
would not be worth it as you would lose the easy height adjustability of
the quill stem and it would cost more.

Actually you gain both the easy changeability of ahead stems and the
height adjustability of the quill. The adapter is basically a quill
without the stem. And they work very well (I have one on the road bike
untill such time as I swap the forks.

...d

Quoted message said:

The bike cost me 50 quid. Probably need the same or a little more
spent on it to get it into good nick.

£50? The shifters alone are (nearly) worth that! Definately worth doing
up if you don't already have a road bike. More Jpegs when you do, but
could you stand a little further back or perhaps use a wider angle lens
next time?

Mark Thompson pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said:

£50? The shifters alone are (nearly) worth that! Definately worth
doing up if you don't already have a road bike. More Jpegs when you
do, but could you stand a little further back or perhaps use a wider
angle lens next time?

I got it because I don't have a road bike (apart from my tourer) and I
don't really need one so it is a complete toy. I offered 50 quid for
it unseen because I'd been told the wheels were trashed and I'd seen
something similar on ebay for 200 quid, budgeting for new wheels and a
bit of fiddling about.

It does seem like the rear wheel may be recoverable with just a new
set of spokes. The front seems fine to me. The gears shift cleanly
after some very minor tweaking. The chain is dirty and will be
replaced but the chainwheels and freewheel don't seem particularly
worn. The bar tape needs replacing too and the saddle is one of those
awful gel things. It could be quite a nice bike.

I probably won't get to ride it til the weekend though.

Chris
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Chris Eilbeck

Chris Eilbeck said:

Mark Thompson pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said:

£50? The shifters alone are (nearly) worth that! Definately worth
doing up if you don't already have a road bike. More Jpegs when you
do, but could you stand a little further back or perhaps use a wider
angle lens next time?

I got it because I don't have a road bike (apart from my tourer) and I
don't really need one so it is a complete toy. I offered 50 quid for
it unseen because I'd been told the wheels were trashed and I'd seen
something similar on ebay for 200 quid, budgeting for new wheels and a
bit of fiddling about.

It does seem like the rear wheel may be recoverable with just a new
set of spokes. The front seems fine to me. The gears shift cleanly
after some very minor tweaking. The chain is dirty and will be
replaced but the chainwheels and freewheel don't seem particularly
worn. The bar tape needs replacing too and the saddle is one of those
awful gel things. It could be quite a nice bike.

I probably won't get to ride it til the weekend though.

Chris
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Chris Eilbeck

Certainly looks shiny.
Rear dropout spacing may be an issue if it is the old 126mm rather than
the newer 130 or is it 135mm? (it is on mine, but I think yours is
newer?) This is especialy the case if the rear wheel needed any major
work (ie new hub).
Surprised it is a freewheel though and not cassette, especially as RSX
is later than my 105 (which was Uniglide cassette, but now modded to HG
cassette). Is it 6sp or 7sp?
50 quid though sounds like a bargain, even though it may well cost more
to make it usable. I was considering selling my roadbike, but would
probably have got only 50 euro. Instead I spent probably 150-200 quid
on all new moving metalwork, tyres and tubes (cost is a total guess -
not looked at receipts, and don't want to!).
Only change I didn't make was replacing the downtube shifters with sti
levers, which is wierd swapping between the roadbike and the
mountainbike (and yes I have reached down to change gear on the MTB!)