New Trials Uni

I don't know the weight, but here's a really good deal:

http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44423

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Yes. By all means, take that Onza! Take it NOW!

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Weight, schmeight, quit lying to yourself. One of the high jump records
(87cm) was set on a >16lb 24" muni. Buy components based on strength
and perofrmance, then, if you come up with a tie, factor in weight.
Furthermore, weight doesn't make a difference until you start doing
large SIF hops. Unless you happen to be doing jumps where you are
tucking enough to hit your butt with the tire, a heavy uni will make no
real difference.

Before anyone calls me out for being a hypocrate (I ride a 11.5-12lb
trials uni), I didn't buy my components based on weight. If I had, i
would be riding a KH 2005 frame and wouldn't bother with such luxuries
as seat foam, aluminum pedals, etc.

People make a huge deal about equipment, but in reality a good rider
will still be good on a 16 lb summit unicycle, they just might hop 1/2"
lower.

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I think he's thinking of weight as being clumsy and tiresome....

But anyway, if you want cheap, strong, and light, get the Qu-Ax splined
trials, for $300. If you had a non-splined trials before, then I doubt
you'll be needing super strong. But the Qu-Ax is plenty strong enough.

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qu-ax seems about the same as a dx, i dunno though.

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Hmm

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gerblefranklin said:

Weight, schmeight, quit lying to yourself. One of the high jump records
(87cm) was set on a >16lb 24" muni. Buy components based on strength
and perofrmance, then, if you come up with a tie, factor in weight.
Furthermore, weight doesn't make a difference until you start doing
large SIF hops. Unless you happen to be doing jumps where you are
tucking enough to hit your butt with the tire, a heavy uni will make no
real difference.

Before anyone calls me out for being a hypocrate (I ride a 11.5-12lb
trials uni), I didn't buy my components based on weight. If I had, i
would be riding a KH 2005 frame and wouldn't bother with such luxuries
as seat foam, aluminum pedals, etc.

People make a huge deal about equipment, but in reality a good rider
will still be good on a 16 lb summit unicycle, they just might hop 1/2"
lower.

I think weight has a lot more effect than you make out. I try basic
trials on my 26" muni and I'm dead on my feet in 10 mins, yet I can do
it for hours on my 20" onza? It takes a lot more effort to get the same
effect on a heavier uni. Someone with a <6kg Trials lasts longer than
somone running one with an extra couple of kilos on board. Maybe they
get the same results, but not over the same period of time.

Loose.

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Michea said:

Brakes would be nice...Recommendations?

Yeah, I have a recommendation. Don't buy brakes. If you're riding
trials, you won't need them. Trust me. All I do is ride trials (even
natural lines), and a little street. Notice how many sponsored trials
riders use brakes on their trials uni's? That's right.

That right there will save you money AND weight.

I don't know what unicycle to recommend to you. I'm not too concerned
about weight. I've cut down on my weight already. If I wanted more
off, I'd have to go with an alum. KH frame. Besides, I've spent more
than $700 on my unicycle thus far.

Whatever you get, don't ride it with a Maxxis Tire. My uni may be
11.5-12lbs...but my only complaint is switching from a Luna to a Maxxis
tire. Get the Luna instead. There's more bounce, and less fold-over.
Even if it is a little heavier than the Maxxis.

What else can I recommend? Cut down on your seat foam, raise your seat
up high, ride with high psi, and angle your seatbase if you can

That's what'll make the most difference to your uni, when riding
trials. At least that's what works for me.

Later,
Evan

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What is fold over? I have only used a maxxis in the past, and I like it.
Will the seat foam really make a difference in weight? What frame do
you have? For that matter, what's your whole set-up? I think brakes are
superfluous for me. Thanks for the help e'rbody

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Loosemoose said:

I think weight has a lot more effect than you make out. I try basic
trials on my 26" muni and I'm dead on my feet in 10 mins, yet I can do
it for hours on my 20" onza?

The difference which you are experiencing may not be weight... it's
more likely conditioning and technique. Your technique may be
different on your 26"er, which leads you to expend a lot more effort to
achieve the same results. I've never heard of, nor experienced, such a
differential (hours vs. 10 mins) in ride times when all that's
different is the uni.

Michea said:

Will the seat foam really make a difference in weight?

Yes. You should be using an airseat filled with helium to achieve the
lightest ride possible.

Your seat and frame set-up, for the most part, does not make a
difference in your ride. Once your riding style becomes advanced (big
rolling hops, drops, etc) you may develop a liking for a particular
seat setup, but your abilities will not depend on it. The frame just
holds the seat in place and should have nothing to do with riding, so
don't worry about it at all.

As Gerble noted, most differences will be measured in fractions of an
inch. The best riders can grab anyone's unicycle in a given group,
ride off and do the same tricks / ride the same lines.

In short, don't concern yourself with the details of your setup. If
you want to be a better rider, practice, practice, practice and focus
on your technique.

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Brakes !? Why The F*** Whould U Want Brakes On A Fu****g Trials Uni ?
What U R Gonna Brake Doing Gps To Rails ? Do U Ahve A Problem ? Wtf 13
Pounds ? R U High ? Dude I Wanna Shoot My Self Cauz Of U

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Superfluous means uneccesary.

Well thanks for the input, and practice is definitely my first goal. I
wheel walked 30 feet! I took off the pedal that was loose in my welded
on cranks, and I've been jumping with no pedals and wheel walking. Must
ride must ride. I'm just going to buy the parts as I can, and put
together something magnificent.

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Michea said:

What is fold over? I have only used a maxxis in the past, and I like it.
Will the seat foam really make a difference in weight? What frame do
you have? For that matter, what's your whole set-up? I think brakes are
superfluous for me. Thanks for the help e'rbody

When you're hopping sideways, or up/on an angled object, you can feel
and see the tire visibly "fold over" the side of the rim. You don't
want that to happen. You loose energy. Plus, it makes your moves
inaccurate. The Maxxis has thin sidewalls, so it does it quite
frequently.

The seat foam isn't about the weight, first and foremost. When you
ride trials you aren't on the seat all that much. For seat out trials
skills, too much foam can be a burden to grip. And when you go to tilt
your seat so that your weight is focused on the flat rear portion, too
much foam up front can be uncomfortable when the seat's more angled
back. And, a more low-profile approach allows you to raise the height
of your seat, and allows you to take it out in front/put back under you
more smoothly and easily.

My set-up (Aside from the seat/tire...the rest was bought in late Aug
'04):

Seat cover: KH Fusion, black
Seat foam: Chopped KH...Cut down a lot (I'd like to get rid of more
foam in the back) from my older first edition KH seat, which I broke
the stiffener plate to.
Seat base: Scott Wallis "de-rail" carbon fibre with 'grips' for sif
skills, and metal inserts so that I can screw my bumper/handle right
into the base.
Front handle: Black Kinport
Bumper: Old Miyata, puke green (haha!).
Seat Post: Thompson...chopped down some.
Frame: KH Pro, Canadian made, black (I didn't want to wait a few
months until the Taiwanese ones were back in stock)
Hub/Axle/Cranks: Profile
Pedals: Blue Odyssey Jim C.
Rim: Alex DX 32
Tire: Maxxis Creepy Crawler (It's been on since October, but won't
make it to the new year...It's already so worn out, and I haven't been
on it that much...I want the Luna back, and that's not even that great
of a tire)

Aside from needing a new tire, and pedals really soon, I'd maybe
eventually like to ride an aluminum frame. I don't see it as a
necessity anytime in the near future though. (Although if someone would
give me a free Titanium frame--Could you make that with a longer
seat-tube too?--Haha, j/k)

Rider:
~5'8" tall
~135 lbs.

I think that's sufficient enough,
Evan

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maestro8 said:

Your seat and frame set-up, for the most part, does not make a
difference in your ride.

In short, don't concern yourself with the details of your setup. If
you want to be a better rider, practice, practice, practice and focus
on your technique.

Right, I was somewhat being sarcastic...even to myself. I was just
trying to illustrate how that weight as a trials rider doesn't really
matter that much. What makes a difference more to your ride, is how
you have all of your parts dialed in for you.

But, I wouldn't say that doing those things to your unicycle (i.e. cut
down foam, tilt seat back, ride with seat up higher, and tire psi up
higher) doesn't help either.

Those things do become necessary with time and practice. Riding
seat-in-front with a really low seat, is harder on the knees, than with
the seat up high. With the seat lower, you won't be jumping as high.
Also, you'll be bending farther down, which can cause some back pain
too. It's nice to have the seat "right there" for a trials rider. How
high up you go just depends on your personal preference, and whether
you're going to be predominately seat out or not. For myself, I don't
ride with me seat as high as Zack Baldwin does...but it's not far off.

Riding with a higher pressure=more rebound when you compress the tire
(because it takes more force to compress the tire)--Especially if the
tire has thicker sidewalls that aid in how bouncy it is to begin with.
A higher pressure allows you for less chance of bottoming out, and/or
fold over. So you can drop bigger, gap bigger, etc...

So I still do say those issues are more important than a couple
pounds,
Evan

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Krashin'Kenny said:

I don't know the weight, but here's a really good deal:

http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44423

take the onza.. i was offerd the same one. pdc is a very nice guy. i
recomend him any day 😄 🙂 😄 🙂

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gerblefranklin said:

Weight, schmeight, quit lying to yourself. One of the high jump records
(87cm) was set on a >16lb 24" muni. Buy components based on strength
and perofrmance, then, if you come up with a tie, factor in weight.
Furthermore, weight doesn't make a difference until you start doing
large SIF hops. Unless you happen to be doing jumps where you are
tucking enough to hit your butt with the tire, a heavy uni will make no
real difference.

Before anyone calls me out for being a hypocrate (I ride a 11.5-12lb
trials uni), I didn't buy my components based on weight. If I had, i
would be riding a KH 2005 frame and wouldn't bother with such luxuries
as seat foam, aluminum pedals, etc.

People make a huge deal about equipment, but in reality a good rider
will still be good on a 16 lb summit unicycle, they just might hop 1/2"
lower.

What parts make up your unicycle?

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