Newbie question - mudguards for full suspension bike



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My son is getting a new bike from Santa with both front and rear suspension. Inevitably it comes
sans mudguards - My question is, are there any available that will truly keep him clean and dry?
There is an added conplication that initially at least he will have the saddle at its lowest most
position so if the rear guard attaches to the seat post it must be adjustable allowing fixing below
the bit of the frame where the seat post goes in. (This obviously has a name but I don't know what
it is!) Thanks - Alan
 
"Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My son is getting a new bike from Santa with both front and rear suspension. Inevitably it comes
> sans mudguards - My question is, are there any available that will truly keep him clean and dry?
> There is an added conplication that initially at least he will have the saddle at its lowest most
> position so if the rear guard attaches to the seat post it must be adjustable allowing fixing
> below the bit of the frame where the seat post goes in. (This obviously has a name but I don't
> know what it is!)

Staying clean and dry on an mtb is not a design criteria, if you want to stay clean and dry you
don't want an mtb :) Having said that there are guards that at least keep flung dung off the face
and bum, see: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ and select mudguards from the menu, pictures will appear!

If there isn't enough seat post showing to clip the rear guard on quite frankly the bike is
way too big.

Pete
 
[email protected] (Alan) writes:

> My son is getting a new bike from Santa with both front and rear suspension. Inevitably it comes
> sans mudguards - My question is, are there any available that will truly keep him clean and dry?
> There is an added conplication that initially at least he will have the saddle at its lowest most
> position so if the rear guard attaches to the seat post it must be adjustable allowing fixing
> below the bit of the frame where the seat post goes in. (This obviously has a name but I don't
> know what it is!)

What's he going to ride it on? If roads and hard-surface tracks then possibly; if seriously off road
then no, he's going to get muddy whatever you do, although some judicious mudgarding will leave him
less muddy. I don't believe you'll find a rear mudguard that will actually work on a full suspension
bike which does not attach to the seatpost - remember, if the mudguard fouls the wheel at full
suspension travel that's going to be at best a serious nuisance and at worst actively dangerous.

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Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (Alan) writes:
>
> > My son is getting a new bike from Santa with both front and rear suspension. Inevitably it comes
> > sans mudguards - My question is, are there any available that will truly keep him clean and dry?
> > There is an added conplication that initially at least he will have the saddle at its lowest
> > most position so if the rear guard attaches to the seat post it must be adjustable allowing
> > fixing below the bit of the frame where the seat post goes in. (This obviously has a name but I
> > don't know what it is!)
>
> What's he going to ride it on? If roads and hard-surface tracks then possibly; if seriously off
> road then no, he's going to get muddy whatever you do, although some judicious mudgarding will
> leave him less muddy. I don't believe you'll find a rear mudguard that will actually work on a
> full suspension bike which does not attach to the seatpost - remember, if the mudguard fouls the
> wheel at full suspension travel that's going to be at best a serious nuisance and at worst
> actively dangerous.

Thanks Simon, Mainly hard surfaces - the occaisional gentle off road sojourn so what did you have
in mind when you said possibly? I've seen one from SKS at various webstores that appears to be
very adjustable having 2 pivots but none of my local stores have it so it would mean ordering on
faith. Alan
 
"Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Re mtb mudguards:

>I've seen one from SKS at various webstores that appears to be very adjustable having 2 pivots but
>none of my local stores have it so it would mean ordering on faith.

The webstores I've dealt with have so far been only too happy to accept back goods that I found
unsuitable for the intended purpose.

Pete
 
[email protected] (Alan) writes:

> Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > [email protected] (Alan) writes:
> >
> > > My son is getting a new bike from Santa with both front and rear suspension. Inevitably it
> > > comes sans mudguards - My question is, are there any available that will truly keep him clean
> > > and dry? There is an added conplication that initially at least he will have the saddle at its
> > > lowest most position so if the rear guard attaches to the seat post it must be adjustable
> > > allowing fixing below the bit of the frame where the seat post goes in. (This obviously has a
> > > name but I don't know what it is!)
> >
> > What's he going to ride it on? If roads and hard-surface tracks then possibly; if seriously off
> > road then no, he's going to get muddy whatever you do, although some judicious mudgarding will
> > leave him less muddy. I don't believe you'll find a rear mudguard that will actually work on a
> > full suspension bike which does not attach to the seatpost - remember, if the mudguard fouls the
> > wheel at full suspension travel that's going to be at best a serious nuisance and at worst
> > actively dangerous.
>
> Mainly hard surfaces - the occaisional gentle off road sojourn so what did you have in mind when
> you said possibly? I've seen one from SKS at various webstores that appears to be very adjustable
> having 2 pivots but none of my local stores have it so it would mean ordering on faith.

What I didn't ask and obviously should have is how old is your son? If he's sort of five or six and
you're living in a suburban area with fairly manicured parkland then it should be possible to keep
him clean, but if he's ten or twelve and bombing in and out of the local woods then it's not, and
that's pretty much irrespective of the mudguard issue. There's also the issue of whether mudguards
are 'cool' in his social circle. I'd honestly be inclined to try him without and see how he does,
and fit mudguards later if it really seems to be a problem. I'm not aware of a mudguard for full
suspension bikes which doesn't attach to the seatpost, although that doesn't prove there isn't one.

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Alan <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My son is getting a new bike from Santa with both front and rear suspension. Inevitably it comes
> sans mudguards - My question is, are there any available that will truly keep him clean and dry?
> There is an added conplication that initially at least he will have the saddle at its lowest most
> position so if the rear guard attaches to the seat post it must be adjustable allowing fixing
> below the bit of the frame where the seat post goes in. (This obviously has a name but I don't
> know what it is!) Thanks - Alan

Depends on what sort of full-suspension bike it is. If the bike is one with a URT/floating
drivetrain (where the pedals and back wheel are all in one, with no suspension pivots between) there
seems no reason why a normal full-length road-type mudguard shouldn't be fitted at the back wheel,
possibly with a 3rd set of stays. Of course, if he then goes somewhere with lots of sticky mud, it
would clog up and need poking out with a stick, but you can't have everything.

Andrew
 
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