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I recently posted about transferring treadmill running to an actual 5K. Thanks to everyone who
posted back with advice - BUT - I'm not doing very well. I can still run 3 miles on the treadmill
but yesterday I tried running in the street and couldn't do even one mile, and that was partly
downhill!

Were you running at approximately the same pace? Was it very cold. Windy? Were you altering your
stride at all when running outdoors? I'm just the opposite. I have a much easier time running on the
roads. My legs don't get nearly as fatigued on the roads as they do on a treadmill.

My only advice is to try to get outside as much as possible to acclimate yourself to the roads. If
you're used to running on a treadmill with quite a bit of a cushioning effect, the harder surface of
the roads may be stressing your legs more than you're used to. I'd suspect that someone accustomed
to running outdoors and moving to a treadmill would have an easier time of it than someone
accustomed to the treadmill and moving to the roads. But everyone is different.

Ditch the t-mill. Find a large enough area to jog in ever diminishing circles............until you
jog up your own turd cutter, and disappear.

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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I recently posted about transferring treadmill running to an actual 5K. Thanks to everyone who
posted back with advice - BUT - I'm not doing very well. I can still run 3 miles on the
treadmill but yesterday I tried running in the street and couldn't do even one mile, and that
was partly downhill!

I would try the old way of going for a walk, and every second powerpole I would jog the distance to
build up some stamina and say, every second run to jog double the distance. Sound confusine? Run one
set distance, walk the same amount, run the next set distance, walk the same amount etc... this
distance (1 powerpole) in New Zealand is about 150m, and a great way for beginners to start out,
kind of fartlek way. It is a great way to see rogress, as you set the challenge each time you run
and beat your previous amount. Pretty soon, you'll be up to 5km. Brendon

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I can still run 3 miles on the treadmill but yesterday I tried running in the

street and couldn't do even one mile, and that was partly downhill! My calves froze up

Treadmill running is somewhat "cushioned," and asphalt/concrete are not. You may need totally
different shoes for the road. Also, if it's your calves that got sore, you may be running more on
the balls of your feet on your road running (most runners would experience some of this soreness
when going to "speedwork"😉. Perhaps you are running "faster" on the road than on the treadmill, as
well? The treadmill helps you set your pace -- on the road, that's up to you to take care of.

This is what happens when you take advice from dainty little treadmill joggers. No amount of
treadmill training will replace roadwork if a roadrace is your goal. Get an eliptical trainer, it's
much closer to real running.

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Quoted message said:

I recently posted about transferring treadmill running to an actual 5K. Thanks to everyone who
posted back with advice - BUT - I'm not doing very well. I can still run 3 miles on the treadmill
but yesterday I tried running in the street and couldn't do even one mile, and that was partly
downhill! My calves froze up, so I decided not to sign up for a 5K until I can run 2+ miles on the
road. I don't know what I'm doing on the treadmill, but it must be VERY different from running on
the road :-( I'm going to search around for a park or outdoor jogging trail so I can run outdoors
more frequently. I'm not giving up; I just need to regroup. Nia

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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I recently posted about transferring treadmill running to an actual 5K. Thanks to everyone who
posted back with advice - BUT - I'm not doing very well. I can still run 3 miles on the
treadmill but yesterday I tried running in the street and couldn't do even one mile, and that
was partly downhill!

Were you running at approximately the same pace? Was it very cold. Windy? Were you altering your
stride at all when running outdoors? I'm just the opposite. I have a much easier time running on
the roads. My legs don't get nearly as fatigued on the roads as they do on a treadmill.

My only advice is to try to get outside as much as possible to acclimate yourself to the roads. If
you're used to running on a treadmill with quite a bit of a cushioning effect, the harder surface
of the roads may be stressing your legs more than you're used to. I'd suspect that someone
accustomed to running outdoors and moving to a treadmill would have an easier time of it than
someone accustomed to the treadmill and moving to the roads. But everyone is different.

January Runner's World magazine has a review of treadmills, along with some discussion about the
differences in style between treadmill and road running. There seems to be a significant difference
in style. So Nia, you should heed the advice of several folks here and run more outdoors.

It's part of a general principle: specificity of training.

IOW, if you plan to run a 5k road race, you should train on the road. If it happened to be a 5k
cross country race, then you would need to train on trails. The treadmill or eliptical should maybe
just be considered a form of cross training.

Good luck in your training. and Welcome to rec.running! Ed

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Quoted message said:

I recently posted about transferring treadmill running to an actual 5K. Thanks to everyone who
posted back with advice - BUT - I'm not doing very well. I can still run 3 miles on the treadmill
but yesterday I tried running in the street and couldn't do even one mile, and that was partly
downhill! My calves froze up, so I decided not to sign up for a 5K until I can run 2+ miles on the
road. I don't know what I'm doing on the treadmill, but it must be VERY different from running on
the road :-( I'm going to search around for a park or outdoor jogging trail so I can run outdoors
more frequently. I'm not giving up; I just need to regroup. Nia

it's probably the impact that's getting you, and it could become a serious problem...strains and
stress fractures. I'd say just try one run a week outside, and make sure you take a day off
afterwards. Your tendons and bones are a step behind your cardiovascular and muscular fitness.
Unfortunately, tendons/bones respond to training slower too, so the only way to do things is slowly.
Give yourself a month or more with just one hard-surface run per week.

I have the opposite issue. I can easily run for 60-90 minutes outside with the fresh air and
stimulating scenery. But is drudgery to use a treadmill more than 30 minutes.