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  1. Edward Dolan said:

    "The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The fact that the world does not go bonkers over Canada like it does the
    US is because Canada's status in the world is on the order of Costa Rica.
    If and when Canada ever becomes a super power, all that will change in a
    trice. France will then be as delighted to stab Canada in the back as it
    was to do it to the US. France thinks it has been robbed of its rightful
    place in history. They never got over the glories of Napoleon.

    Actually Canada is respected by much of the world, it has it's deficit
    under control (unlike the United States). Our dollar is doing quite well,
    and we have something like 90% of the untapped oil supply left in North
    America. I suspect the days of the super-powers are over, it's
    consortiums that are taking over, like the European Union. The United
    States will become a has-been in the next 50 years, when the oil supply
    starts drying up, and it will not be able to borrow enough money to defend
    the middle East against the Billion man army known as China. The United
    States will then join the Americas Union, which will consist of Canada,
    United States, Mexico, Guatamala, Jamaica, Haiti, Dominican Republic,
    Barbados, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Venezuala, Columbia, Brazil,
    Peru, Bolivia (I know some people there), Paraguay, Argentina and Uruguay.
    It will be one big free trade zone, with a common currency, just like most
    of Europe is. Unlike NAFTA, the United States will not be able to write
    this trade agreement.

    Costa Rica has the respect of the world too, even if not regarded as much of
    a power. Canada does not have a great deficit like the US because it does
    not pull its weight in the world like the US does. The Canadian military is
    next to nothing. Canada is secure because of the US. The same could be said
    for Europe too. The only bulwark in the world (thanks to President Bush) for
    Western Civilization is the US. The very least Canada could do is show some
    support for US policy if it does not want to undertake any of the burden
    itself.

    Well, we don't really need a big military, who would we war with,
    everyone likes us, sure there has been the occassional terrorist, but
    domestically there hasn't been war since, well 1812, when we kicked
    America's ass. A little peace keeping here and there, and sending the
    occassional ship fishing illegally in our waters packing, doesn't take a
    big military force. The whole issue of without the big US military
    protecting the free world, that it would suddenly collapse, is just so
    much male bovine manure. The United States needs a big military, to
    secure it's oil supply, and that is why it's taking control of then
    worlds second largest current supplier.

    Really the United States needs to lighten up, it's way to uptight, and
    that big military is in charge of the winding key.

    Quoted message said:


    As for the rest of your thinking, who knows what the future holds. It may be
    that the Muslim terrorists will manage to get their hands on a nuclear
    weapon (via Iran) and blow Toronto to kingdom come. What then?
    [...]

    Why would they? That's the big question, why would you attack nice guy
    Canada? You would have the entire world, including a good bunch of the
    countries you want as friends, ready to rip you apart. The United
    States would be a much better target for that bomb, if you had to pick a
    country people love to hate, it would be the United States. And that is
    why it was the World Trade Center rather then the Toronto Dominion
    Centre that was attacked.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Actually, the CBC does two things very well. They continue the tradition
    of radio drama, and they service areas, that would not otherwise be
    servicable due to lack of population. The problem with US news, and I
    have seen some of it, is that they always take a US stand on international
    issues. Which brings me to another issue, I have with US media, how come
    the media is so obsessed by politics and political issues, when the
    majority of citizens don't even care enough to vote?

    Those who do not vote are in effect also voting. They have indicated by not
    voting that they are content to let those who do vote run the ship of state.
    As a matter of fact, I absolutely do not want anyone voting who does not
    take an interest in civic affairs. Our American democracy is as strong and
    healthy as it has ever been.

    If you don't vote, you deserve the government you get stuck with.
    However that doesn't answer the question, why is the US media so
    absorbed with politics, and boring politics as well. What the United
    States needs, is a good joke like the old Canadian Rhinoceros party (now
    defunct), maybe a good toke would be better, you can have the Marajuana
    party :-)[1]

    Actually you want a real joke, take the NDP, puhlease take the NDP, you
    can even have Smilin' Jack (think Herb Tarlek from WKRP, with a huge
    smile ) their much feared leader, if this guy becomes prime minister,
    I'm moving to a third world country, and declaring refugee status.

    W

    [1] Please let it be known, that I have never smoked Marajuana, nor do I
    encourage anyone else to.

  2. NYC XYZ said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    Yes, it is mainly young teenage farm girls who are into horse riding. They
    especially like to do their thing at county fairs.

    Oh, I thought it was mainly middle-aged dads who find something
    irrresistible about a young girl riding a big horse....

    I would much rather draft a young woman on an upright bicycle
    (especially a TT or Tri bike) than one on a horse for TWO obvious
    reasons. 😉

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  3. NYC XYZ said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    No, I can do that but you can't. If you did it it would be plagiarism and
    forgery. You could go to jail for it.

    Why, are you also copyrighted by microsoft?

    That's "micro$oft" dude!

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  4. Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    As for the rest of your thinking, who knows what the future holds. It may be
    that the Muslim terrorists will manage to get their hands on a nuclear
    weapon (via Iran) and blow Toronto to kingdom come. What then?...

    Not too many people would miss Toronto, Iowa.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  5. Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    I do not believe Tom Sherman ever built a bike in his life. He is into
    pricey recumbents that he buys from manufacturers in the Twin Cities, at
    which point they promptly go out of business....

    Actually, I adopted Red Sunset, Blue Dragonflyer and Purple Sunset
    after Earth Cycles went out of business. None were purchased directly
    from Earth Cycles [1].

    [1] I was planning on ordering a Sunset after I finished grade school,
    er graduate school, but Earth Cycles was effectively defunct by that
    time.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  6. Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    I briefly met some of these guys once and they are great at what they do,
    but they do not do what the Great Ed Dolan does. They are fish and I am
    foul....


    ^^^^

    No argument there! 😉

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  7. Dave Larrington said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset () said:

    The most annoying thing on larger group rides is when a cluster of
    upright cyclists spread out and take up the whole road (or whole lane
    when there is oncoming traffic) on a descent. This forces the rider on
    an aerodynamic recumbent to ride the brakes all the way down the hill.
    I am sure these same upright riders would be "pissing and moaning"
    if a slow group of Fat Old Geezers (FOGs) on recumbents did the same on
    an uphill section.

    In much of my riding, anything more than single file makes it difficult
    to get past. Though I did manage to scare the cr*p out of a couple of
    lads going down towards Compton Abdale yesterday (as well as dropping
    one of them going up the other side).

    Speedmachine, Cosimo the Low Baron, or something else?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  8. Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    More importantly, one liners will not cut it here in the long run....

    Really?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

  9. "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    More importantly, one liners will not cut it here in the long run....

    Really?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

    The king of the one-liners (Tom Sherman) ought to know, but a single word? I
    could stop right here and now but then I would be like Mr. Sherman, a
    disgrace to myself.

    No, no, let me go on at some length and tell you my theory of one-liners.
    These poor benighted souls think they are being witty when all they are
    doing is trying everyone's patience. It is far better to be prolix like me,
    but don't over do it either. It is really a question of good taste and
    intelligence to know how far to go. One-liners and single-worders never have
    any good taste and they are mostly idiots to boot. I don't believe anyone in
    this world has ever accused Mr. Sherman of having good taste.

    Thus spake Zarathustra.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  10. "The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Costa Rica has the respect of the world too, even if not regarded as much
    of a power. Canada does not have a great deficit like the US because it
    does not pull its weight in the world like the US does. The Canadian
    military is next to nothing. Canada is secure because of the US. The same
    could be said for Europe too. The only bulwark in the world (thanks to
    President Bush) for Western Civilization is the US. The very least
    Canada could do is show some support for US policy if it does not want
    to undertake any of the burden itself.

    Well, we don't really need a big military, who would we war with, everyone
    likes us, sure there has been the occassional terrorist, but domestically
    there hasn't been war since, well 1812, when we kicked America's ass. A
    little peace keeping here and there, and sending the occassional ship
    fishing illegally in our waters packing, doesn't take a big military
    force. The whole issue of without the big US military protecting the free
    world, that it would suddenly collapse, is just so much male bovine
    manure. The United States needs a big military, to secure it's oil
    supply, and that is why it's taking control of then worlds second largest
    current supplier.

    The Mongol hordes from the steppes of Central Asia are waiting in the wings
    to swoop down on you, but the US prevents it.

    Quoted message said:

    Really the United States needs to lighten up, it's way to uptight, and
    that big military is in charge of the winding key.

    Really, Canada needs to take on its fair share of the world's burden and
    stop sponging off the US. We Americans are getting sick and tired of
    Canadians free loading off of us. You are as bad as the Europeans that way.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for the rest of your thinking, who knows what the future holds. It may
    be that the Muslim terrorists will manage to get their hands on a nuclear
    weapon (via Iran) and blow Toronto to kingdom come. What then?
    [...]

    Why would they? That's the big question, why would you attack nice guy
    Canada? You would have the entire world, including a good bunch of the
    countries you want as friends, ready to rip you apart. The United States
    would be a much better target for that bomb, if you had to pick a country
    people love to hate, it would be the United States. And that is why it
    was the World Trade Center rather then the Toronto Dominion Centre that
    was attacked.

    Wogster is a mouse and thinks if he hides thoroughly enough that he won't be
    attacked. Such fools go to their grave never knowing what hit them.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Actually, the CBC does two things very well. They continue the tradition
    of radio drama, and they service areas, that would not otherwise be
    servicable due to lack of population. The problem with US news, and I
    have seen some of it, is that they always take a US stand on
    international issues. Which brings me to another issue, I have with US
    media, how come the media is so obsessed by politics and political
    issues, when the majority of citizens don't even care enough to vote?

    Those who do not vote are in effect also voting. They have indicated by
    not voting that they are content to let those who do vote run the ship of
    state. As a matter of fact, I absolutely do not want anyone voting who
    does not take an interest in civic affairs. Our American democracy is as
    strong and healthy as it has ever been.

    If you don't vote, you deserve the government you get stuck with. However
    that doesn't answer the question, why is the US media so absorbed with
    politics, and boring politics as well. What the United States needs, is a
    good joke like the old Canadian Rhinoceros party (now defunct), maybe a
    good toke would be better, you can have the Marajuana party :-)[1]

    ">> Those who do not vote are in effect also voting. They have indicated by
    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    voting that they are content to let those who do vote run the ship of
    state. As a matter of fact, I absolutely do not want anyone voting who
    does not take an interest in civic affairs. Our American democracy is as
    strong and healthy as it has ever been."

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  11. "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    As for the rest of your thinking, who knows what the future holds. It may
    be
    that the Muslim terrorists will manage to get their hands on a nuclear
    weapon (via Iran) and blow Toronto to kingdom come. What then?...

    Not too many people would miss Toronto, Iowa.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

    Wogster is a Canadian and a liberal one to boot. They must imbibe that
    abhorrent ideology with their mother's milk. I will just write them off the
    same as I do the despicable French. There is no point in bothering with
    ostriches who only run and hide by putting their heads in the sand and their
    asses in the air (the better for me to kick them).

    If the Muslim terrorists blow Toronto and Paris to kingdom come, that will
    only serve them right for being such morons, imbeciles and all-around
    idiots. I will rejoice at the prospect of their incineration. When you are
    as stupid as they are, you don't deserve to live.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  12. "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    I briefly met some of these guys once and they are great at what they do,
    but they do not do what the Great Ed Dolan does. They are fish and I am
    foul....


    ^^^^

    No argument there! 😉

    I could argue that that was a Freudian slip, but it is just so funny! It was
    an honest mistake which I recognized the moment after I had sent it. I just
    about died laughing and I KNEW you would pick up on it. I am the funniest
    guy I know.

    But there is some truth to it after all. I am not on these newsgroups in
    order to be liked. I am here to kick ass when ass needs to be kicked. So of
    course I do come across as a bit foul every now and then as opposed to being
    fowl.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edward Dolan said:

    I have not yet decided whether Tom Keats is an idiot or not.

    I've decided to give you enough rope, since you're obviously
    already using it.

    Carry on.

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  14. Edward Dolan said:

    "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    ...
    More importantly, one liners will not cut it here in the long
    run....

    Really?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

    The king of the one-liners (Tom Sherman) ought to know, but a single
    word? I could stop right here and now but then I would be like Mr.
    Sherman, a disgrace to myself.

    No, no, let me go on at some length and tell you my theory of
    one-liners. These poor benighted souls think they are being witty
    when all they are doing is trying everyone's patience. It is far
    better to be prolix like me, but don't over do it either. It is
    really a question of good taste and intelligence to know how far to
    go. One-liners and single-worders never have any good taste and they
    are mostly idiots to boot. I don't believe anyone in this world has
    ever accused Mr. Sherman of having good taste.
    Thus spake Zarathustra.

    Prolix?

    Thus queried Sorneye.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sorni said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thus spake Zarathustra.

    Prolix?

    Thus queried Sorneye.

    He's just being obtuse.

    I am become ...

    .....

    I dunno ... sumbthin'.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset () said:


    Dave Larrington said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset () said:

    The most annoying thing on larger group rides is when a cluster of
    upright cyclists spread out and take up the whole road (or whole lane
    when there is oncoming traffic) on a descent. This forces the rider on
    an aerodynamic recumbent to ride the brakes all the way down the hill.
    I am sure these same upright riders would be "pissing and moaning"
    if a slow group of Fat Old Geezers (FOGs) on recumbents did the same on
    an uphill section.

    In much of my riding, anything more than single file makes it difficult
    to get past. Though I did manage to scare the cr*p out of a couple of
    lads going down towards Compton Abdale yesterday (as well as dropping
    one of them going up the other side).

    Speedmachine, Cosimo the Low Baron, or something else?

    Trice XXL. I am no longer young and foolish enough to do That Sort Of
    Thing on two wheels, as it often involves barrelling down country lanes
    two metres wide and resembling a white-water kayaking course on most
    respects save colour. And then you come round a corner and meet a Range
    Rover coming the other way.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    The Real Slim Shady's gone to play tennis.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset () said:


    NYC XYZ said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    No, I can do that but you can't. If you did it it would be plagiarism and
    forgery. You could go to jail for it.

    Why, are you also copyrighted by microsoft?

    That's "micro$oft" dude!

    ITYM "Microsith". Unfortunately, the original www.microsith.com is no
    longer extant, as otherwise one might have the pleasure of meeting Darth
    Paperclip...

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    My only hope in life is to die before I get my comeuppence.

  18. Dave Larrington said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset () said:
    NYC XYZ said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:

    >
    >No, I can do that but you can't. If you did it it would be plagiarism and
    >forgery. You could go to jail for it.

    Why, are you also copyrighted by microsoft?

    That's "micro$oft" dude!

    ITYM "Microsith". Unfortunately, the original www.microsith.com is no
    longer extant, as otherwise one might have the pleasure of meeting Darth
    Paperclip...

    Ah, Paperclip, the program that takes a $3,000 computer with 512MB of
    ram, and a 4GHz processor and turns it into a Vic-20.

    W

  19. Edward Dolan said:

    "The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Costa Rica has the respect of the world too, even if not regarded as much
    of a power. Canada does not have a great deficit like the US because it
    does not pull its weight in the world like the US does. The Canadian
    military is next to nothing. Canada is secure because of the US. The same
    could be said for Europe too. The only bulwark in the world (thanks to
    President Bush) for Western Civilization is the US. The very least
    Canada could do is show some support for US policy if it does not want
    to undertake any of the burden itself.

    Well, we don't really need a big military, who would we war with, everyone
    likes us, sure there has been the occassional terrorist, but domestically
    there hasn't been war since, well 1812, when we kicked America's ass. A
    little peace keeping here and there, and sending the occassional ship
    fishing illegally in our waters packing, doesn't take a big military
    force. The whole issue of without the big US military protecting the free
    world, that it would suddenly collapse, is just so much male bovine
    manure. The United States needs a big military, to secure it's oil
    supply, and that is why it's taking control of then worlds second largest
    current supplier.

    The Mongol hordes from the steppes of Central Asia are waiting in the wings
    to swoop down on you, but the US prevents it.

    Yeah, sure they are, those Mongol hordes are having enough trouble with
    other Mongol hordes, and have been having that trouble for, oh, the last
    3,000 years..... They are not our problem. What is funny, is that the
    US always goes on about it saving the world, but in the 1990's what did
    the US do in Boznia, well, um, that was a European problem, and Europe
    resolved it. I think the US wasn't interested because Boznia is not an
    oil producing region.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Really the United States needs to lighten up, it's way to uptight, and
    that big military is in charge of the winding key.

    Really, Canada needs to take on its fair share of the world's burden and
    stop sponging off the US. We Americans are getting sick and tired of
    Canadians free loading off of us. You are as bad as the Europeans that way.

    Well, who appointed the United States as the worlds Security Guard? The
    United States did, and since you volunteered for the position, because
    your government wanted to be known as a superpower, your stuck with it.
    Then again Boznia shows, your not that good at it, and things at
    home are not really going all that well.....

    I would be happy to continue the conversation, but I suggest we take it
    off list, it's no longer on topic here......

    W

  20. "The Wogster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The Mongol hordes from the steppes of Central Asia are waiting in the
    wings to swoop down on you, but the US prevents it.

    Yeah, sure they are, those Mongol hordes are having enough trouble with
    other Mongol hordes, and have been having that trouble for, oh, the last
    3,000 years..... They are not our problem. What is funny, is that the US
    always goes on about it saving the world, but in the 1990's what did the
    US do in Boznia, well, um, that was a European problem, and Europe
    resolved it. I think the US wasn't interested because Boznia is not an
    oil producing region.

    The US under Clinton bombed the Serbs into submission. That is the advantage
    of having an Air Force. I am not aware that the Europeans did anything at
    all even though the Balkans are in their own backyard. But the Europeans do
    not care if genocide occurs. They got used to the idea with [censored]. The US
    is really the only moral nation on the face of the earth.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Really the United States needs to lighten up, it's way to uptight, and
    that big military is in charge of the winding key.

    Really, Canada needs to take on its fair share of the world's burden and
    stop sponging off the US. We Americans are getting sick and tired of
    Canadians free loading off of us. You are as bad as the Europeans that
    way.

    Well, who appointed the United States as the worlds Security Guard? The
    United States did, and since you volunteered for the position, because
    your government wanted to be known as a superpower, your stuck with it.
    Then again Boznia shows, your not that good at it, and things at home are
    not really going all that well.....

    All Canadians should be down on their knees thanking God for the protection
    that the US furnishes to the world. Without us, you would be overrun by
    Mongol hordes and there is nothing you could or would do about it. A more
    feckless nation hardly exists, except France of course. Canada and France -
    what a pair!

    Quoted message said:

    I would be happy to continue the conversation, but I suggest we take it
    off list, it's no longer on topic here......

    Why would I want to take anything off list with you. You are a typical
    Canadian, a liberal who has been brainwashed by your liberal media. I would
    sooner talk to the wall than talk to you.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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