No name carbon frames

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Originally posted by tonykara in this months Bicycling Australia mag
there is an add for >PedalForce carbon monocoqe frames for
AUS$1,071.68. thaey >say that they are made by those who make the likes
of Look >and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what do you think.

They do have a name.. Pedal Force 🙂 http://www.pedalforce.com/

Grain of salt in hand: http://www.bikecafe.net/directory/XcDirViewRatin-
gs.asp?LinkID=1486&CatID=69

Here's a pic of a Chorus buildup: http://www.cyclingforums.com/t41866-15-
17.html

http://smallproblem.com/carbon/

I've never seen one before.. sorry I don't have a personal review 🙂
Quite willing to test the one you buy though.. 😉

hippy

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Originally posted by tonykara:

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in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made
by those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what
do you think.

As an owner of an expensive Italian bike (a Colnago Dream Plus) I can
attest that they aren't worth the money.

While this frame is probably just as good as those made for the major
manufacturers, and indeed is probably made by the same people, it's just
plastic. Why not spend your money on a decent steel frame that'll last,
rather than something that will fall apart inside of five years.

Regards,

Suzy

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"tonykara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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like most i would love to ride something italian, my marque of choice is
bianchi, however the price tags on a good frame with a decent
groupo....campag of course, will set you back around the AUS$5k mark. i
dont know about you but my g'friend said im dreaming!.

in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made by
those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what do
you think.

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If you don't mind Titanium instead of Carbon then you could try this place.
http://www.xacd.com.cn/product.asp?rootcl=1

You can get their frames for much less than $1000.

Marty

Ive looked at a custom steel frames such as paconi and ciombola....the
later seems abit dear compared to paconi. but everyone i know is either
on alloy/carbon or carbon. I currently ride full alloy and its
HARSH...... how smooth is steel and would you need the rear carbon on
say an ultrafoco or EOM 16.5 frame?

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Quoted message said:

Originally posted by tonykara:

Quoted message said:

in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made
by those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what
do you think.

As an owner of an expensive Italian bike (a Colnago Dream Plus) I can
attest that they aren't worth the money.

While this frame is probably just as good as those made for the major
manufacturers, and indeed is probably made by the same people, it's just
plastic. Why not spend your money on a decent steel frame that'll last,
rather than something that will fall apart inside of five years.

Regards,

Suzy

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For a few years I raced on a steel bike that I bought from a bike shop for
$20. The bike shop owner had to find it in the "shed out the back
somewhere". I rubbed all the paint off and re-sprayed it with some Bianchi
coloured paint I bought from the local auto shop. I still have that frame
but the bits have been robbed off it to put onto my Chinese Ti bikes.

Marty

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If you don't mind Titanium instead of Carbon then you could
try this place. http://www.xacd.com.cn/product.asp?rootcl=1http://www.xacd.com.cn/product.asp?rootcl=1
You can get their frames for much less than $1000.
Marty

Tony. that's the mob i mentioned on Sunday

Marty has a rather noice lookin roadie from them There's also a
huge thread on cyclingplus.co.uk re these guys (search under
'cheap' and 'Ti' )

PS cycleworks.com.au (box hill) are doing your beloved Bianchi cheap at
the mo with upgraded bits...

Seeing as we use the same pedals we can swap bikes for a bit this
Sunday if you like (altho you'd have to teach me how to use that
JapaneseSTI stuff😉 )

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Originally posted by Marty Wallace For a few years I raced on a steel
bike that I bought from a bike shop for $20. The bike shop owner had to
find it in the "shed out the back somewhere". I rubbed all the paint
off and re-sprayed it with some Bianchi coloured paint I bought from
the local auto shop. I still have that frame but the bits have been
robbed off it to put onto my Chinese Ti bikes.

Most people wouldn't know.. you could say it was a bike Merckx "tested"
when he was thinking about "defecting" or some guff 🙂

hippy

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PS cycleworks.com.au (box hill) are doing your beloved Bianchi cheap at
the mo with upgraded bits...

Dutch if you're in there for your rim, can you have a quick look at the
Carnac shoes (which are half price at the moment) and see what the
cheapest set of road shoes are. Otherwise I'll ride over on Saturday to
check them out (although must conserve energy for BR4).

DaveB

Daveb said:

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PS cycleworks.com.au (box hill) are doing your beloved
Bianchi cheap at the mo with upgraded bits...

Dutch if you're in there for your rim, can you have a quick look at the
Carnac shoes (which are half price at the moment) and see what the
cheapest set of road shoes are. Otherwise I'll ride over on Saturday to
check them out (although must conserve energy for BR4).
DaveB

what size are your feet, i have a pair of adidas RD Comp shoes (top of
the line carbon soled) ive done about 1000km on them but they are too
small, i think they are a size 42.5

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what size are your feet, i have a pair of adidas RD Comp shoes (top
of the line carbon soled) ive done about 1000km on them but they are
too small, i think they are a size 42.5

I'm not sure what size I am. Around 9-9 1/2 in "normal" shoes. Not sure
what that translates to.

DaveB

Sounds like Martec, Advanced Taiwan are another popular choice of carbon
frames in Italy .

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like most i would love to ride something italian, my marque of choice is
bianchi, however the price tags on a good frame with a decent
groupo....campag of course, will set you back around the AUS$5k mark. i
dont know about you but my g'friend said im dreaming!.

in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made by
those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what do
you think.

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I looked at buying one of these a some time back
They are indeed a martec frame.
http://www.bikexpo.com/vip/martec/

See also Leggera bikes, bp stealth, kestrel talon, EPX, supergo..... These
guys also make
Lapierre (carbon), Fondriest, Koga miyata, Bianchi,

After a lot of research it seems a very high number of carbon fibre bicycles
come from Asia, specifically from 3 or 4 factories.
If I were to buy a cf bike for racing I would buy a pedalforce as it would
not hurt the pocket too much if you crash.
The only thing that stopped me was there was a limited size range due to the
fact they are a 1 piece carbon monocoque frame.

see also
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t33659.html
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t41866-15-17.html
http://www.bikecafe.net/directory/XcDirViewRatings.asp?LinkID=1486&CatID=69

Peter

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Sounds like Martec, Advanced Taiwan are another popular choice of carbon
frames in Italy .

"tonykara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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like most i would love to ride something italian, my marque of choice is
bianchi, however the price tags on a good frame with a decent
groupo....campag of course, will set you back around the AUS$5k mark. i
dont know about you but my g'friend said im dreaming!.

in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made by
those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what do
you think.

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"tonykara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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like most i would love to ride something italian, my marque of choice is
bianchi, however the price tags on a good frame with a decent
groupo....campag of course, will set you back around the AUS$5k mark. i
dont know about you but my g'friend said im dreaming!.

in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made by
those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what do
you think.

This is the cost of my Chinese titanium triathlon bike I bought about this
time last year.
A road frame is about the same price.

Hi Sir:
Thanks for your e-mail.
Our price is following:
(1).54 cm titanium Triathlon Frame.
FOB XI'AN USD335.00/set 1set USD335.00
(2).titanium seat post to suit the frame.
FOB XI'AN USD38.00/pcs 1pcs USD38.00
(3).titanium one bolt seat clamp. (To suit the frame).
FOB XI'AN USD15.00/pcs 1pcs USD15.00
(4).100 mm, 10 degree rise titanium, clamp type, head stem.
FOB XI'AN USD35.00/pcs 1pcs USD35.00
Shipping costs(EMS express):USD69.00
Total:USD492.00
Please you wire USD492.00 to us,we will can make and ship the goods to you
within 10days.

Marty

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"tonykara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

like most i would love to ride something italian, my marque of choice is
bianchi, however the price tags on a good frame with a decent
groupo....campag of course, will set you back around the AUS$5k mark. i
dont know about you but my g'friend said im dreaming!.

in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made by
those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what do
you think.

This is the cost of my Chinese titanium triathlon bike I bought about this
time last year.
A road frame is about the same price.

Hi Sir:
Thanks for your e-mail.
Our price is following:
(1).54 cm titanium Triathlon Frame.
FOB XI'AN USD335.00/set 1set USD335.00
(2).titanium seat post to suit the frame.
FOB XI'AN USD38.00/pcs 1pcs USD38.00
(3).titanium one bolt seat clamp. (To suit the frame).
FOB XI'AN USD15.00/pcs 1pcs USD15.00
(4).100 mm, 10 degree rise titanium, clamp type, head stem.
FOB XI'AN USD35.00/pcs 1pcs USD35.00
Shipping costs(EMS express):USD69.00
Total:USD492.00
Please you wire USD492.00 to us,we will can make and ship the goods to

you

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within 10days.

Marty

I have only two complaints about my titanium road bike I had built by the
same people;
1. the single bolt seat clamp was hard to tighten enough so the post
wouldn't slip.I had to reverse the pinch bolt and fit a nut.
2. the stem the supplied is not stiff enough for sprinting.... and I'm not
that strong. If you don't race/sprint it would be an excellent stem..very
comfortable.

The tubing is oversized so forget anything you read about how titanium is
flexible or soft. I can't flex my frame.

I can't thank Marty enough for putting me on to the guys in China. I've lost
count of how many people have asked about my litespeed bike... and it only
cost 1/5 th price!!! plus it was custom sized and only took 2 weeks to make
and deliver.

Peter

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like most i would love to ride something italian, my marque of choice

is

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bianchi, however the price tags on a good frame with a decent
groupo....campag of course, will set you back around the AUS$5k mark.

i

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dont know about you but my g'friend said im dreaming!.

in this months Bicycling Australia mag there is an add for PedalForce
carbon monocoqe frames for AUS$1,071.68. thaey say that they are made

by

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those who make the likes of Look and Kestrel. Anyone got one? what do
you think.

This is the cost of my Chinese titanium triathlon bike I bought about

this

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time last year.
A road frame is about the same price.

Hi Sir:
Thanks for your e-mail.
Our price is following:
(1).54 cm titanium Triathlon Frame.
FOB XI'AN USD335.00/set 1set USD335.00
(2).titanium seat post to suit the frame.
FOB XI'AN USD38.00/pcs 1pcs USD38.00
(3).titanium one bolt seat clamp. (To suit the frame).
FOB XI'AN USD15.00/pcs 1pcs USD15.00
(4).100 mm, 10 degree rise titanium, clamp type, head stem.
FOB XI'AN USD35.00/pcs 1pcs USD35.00
Shipping costs(EMS express):USD69.00
Total:USD492.00
Please you wire USD492.00 to us,we will can make and ship the goods to

you

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within 10days.

Marty

I have only two complaints about my titanium road bike I had built by the
same people;
1. the single bolt seat clamp was hard to tighten enough so the post
wouldn't slip.I had to reverse the pinch bolt and fit a nut.

I had the same problem. I think the clamp is really designed for softer
aluminium frames. I tried several brands of clamp before I found one that
worked, and even then it had to be done up really tight. It just highlights
the difference in the strenth of Aluminium and Titanium.

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2. the stem the supplied is not stiff enough for sprinting.... and I'm not
that strong. If you don't race/sprint it would be an excellent stem..very
comfortable.

The stem I ordered went onto my (Ti) mountain bike as I already had a Angel
tribar set to go on. My mountain bike gets severely (ab)used several times a
week and the stem hasn't failed.

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The tubing is oversized so forget anything you read about how titanium is
flexible or soft. I can't flex my frame.

I can't thank Marty enough for putting me on to the guys in China. I've

lost

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count of how many people have asked about my litespeed bike... and it only
cost 1/5 th price!!! plus it was custom sized and only took 2 weeks to

make

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and deliver.

Peter

I smirk every time I read a posting or get an email from someone that gets
one of these frames it's like it's "our little secret".

Marty

whats the frame weight on one of these beauties?

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tonykara said:

whats the frame weight on one of these beauties?

didnt you post some overly long mock url about people being weight
weenies?😄

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flyingdutch said:

didnt you post some overly long mock url about people being weight
weenies?😄

yes but i can be one of those people if i want. i made the comment so i
can retract it if i wish 😄

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whats the frame weight on one of these beauties?

On the scales mine was 1580 grams without seatpost clamp, or derailleur
cable guide.(I hope the local fruit shop has accurate scales)

the bike is 51cm x 54.5cm.

Peter