OFF TOPIC: Expertise Comes In Many Guises - And So Does Ignorance

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I came to this group because I'm a heart patient and, for a while, I found useful information and
suggestions. Lately I've simply marked everything read and passed on by because I have no patience
for the combination of off-topic posts and the abysmal level of knowledge about the religious
assumptions being thrust upon us.

Thus endeth the reading.
--
Don [email hidden]

If you just kill file the trolls Chung and Nagler you should be able to read smc related helpful
information.

Susan

When Chung stops beating us around the head with religion, removes religion from his post's, then
and only then can this stop. I'm sure that if a vote was taken most people would want this, but
Chung believes that it is his God given right to preach when ever and where ever he pleases
regardless of the consequences. And he has the audacity to call himself a Christian with
Christian values.

"Don Kirkman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I don't want to join in any of the current threads, but I'm going to express an opinion.

The current discussions of religion in this newsgroup are about as informed as my remarks would be
if I were to posting about cardiac functioning, the etiology of heart disease, the role of
cholesterol in cardiac health, or the nutritional needs of cardiac patients..

I've been exposed to a good deal of religious doctrine and history at a level far above what's
going on here, including some introduction to the founding documents and their interpretation, and
I hardly recognize some of the assumptions and assertions being made. I wish parties on both sides
would either drop the religious discussion or approach it with the same rigor they use in
discussing matters involving their professional expertise. Most of what passes for religious
knowledge here hardly rises above the level of popular Sunday/Sabbath school belief.

I came to this group because I'm a heart patient and, for a while, I found useful information and
suggestions. Lately I've simply marked everything read and passed on by because I have no patience
for the combination of off-topic posts and the abysmal level of knowledge about the religious
assumptions being thrust upon us.

Thus endeth the reading.
--
Don [email hidden]

Don Kirkman said:

I don't want to join in any of the current threads, but I'm going to express an opinion.

The current discussions of religion in this newsgroup are about as informed as my remarks would be
if I were to posting about cardiac functioning, the etiology of heart disease, the role of
cholesterol in cardiac health, or the nutritional needs of cardiac patients..

I've been exposed to a good deal of religious doctrine and history at a level far above what's
going on here, including some introduction to the founding documents and their interpretation, and
I hardly recognize some of the assumptions and assertions being made. I wish parties on both sides
would either drop the religious discussion or approach it with the same rigor they use in
discussing matters involving their professional expertise. Most of what passes for religious
knowledge here hardly rises above the level of popular Sunday/Sabbath school belief.

I came to this group because I'm a heart patient and, for a while, I found useful information and
suggestions. Lately I've simply marked everything read and passed on by because I have no patience
for the combination of off-topic posts and the abysmal level of knowledge about the religious
assumptions being thrust upon us.

Thus endeth the reading.
--
Don [email hidden]

Thank you for your comments, Don.

You should be commended for keeping them civil.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

(Susan ) said:

If you just kill file the trolls Chung and Nagler you should be able to read smc related helpful
information.

Susan

...............

I believe that both Dr. Chung and I have added relevant on-topic information to this newsgroup.

Far as I can see, Suzie, you are the only one trolling.

smn

When will the attack on the Christian faith and it's practitioners stop? I cannot believe the fear
instilled in these people's hearts by a few words about our Saviour Christ himself or that they fear
the words spoke on his behalf.

May even Your God forgive you. Christ would.

"wholey_smoke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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When Chung stops beating us around the head with religion, removes

religion

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from his post's, then and only then can this stop. I'm sure that if a vote was taken most people
would want this, but Chung believes that it is his

God

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given right to preach when ever and where ever he pleases regardless of

the

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consequences. And he has the audacity to call himself a Christian with Christian values.

"Don Kirkman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I don't want to join in any of the current threads, but I'm going to express an opinion.

The current discussions of religion in this newsgroup are about as informed as my remarks would
be if I were to posting about cardiac functioning, the etiology of heart disease, the role of
cholesterol in cardiac health, or the nutritional needs of cardiac patients..

I've been exposed to a good deal of religious doctrine and history at a level far above what's
going on here, including some introduction to the founding documents and their interpretation,
and I hardly recognize some of the assumptions and assertions being made. I wish parties on both
sides would either drop the religious discussion or approach it with the same rigor they use in
discussing matters involving their professional expertise. Most of what passes for religious
knowledge here hardly rises above the level of popular Sunday/Sabbath school belief.

I came to this group because I'm a heart patient and, for a while, I found useful information
and suggestions. Lately I've simply marked everything read and passed on by because I have no
patience for the combination of off-topic posts and the abysmal level of knowledge about the
religious assumptions being thrust upon us.

Thus endeth the reading.
--
Don [email hidden]

Satan said:

<hissing threats of blackmail snipped>

"Get behind me, Satan"

Humble servant of almighty Christ,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

ROFLMFAO!

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(Susan ) said:

If you just kill file the trolls Chung and Nagler you should be able to

read

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smc related helpful information.

Susan

...............

I believe that both Dr. Chung and I have added relevant on-topic information to this newsgroup.

Far as I can see, Suzie, you are the only one trolling.

smn

Ear Rings said:

When will the attack on the Christian faith and it's practitioners stop? I cannot believe the fear
instilled in these people's hearts by a few words about our Saviour Christ himself or that they
fear the words spoke on his behalf.

May even Your God forgive you. Christ would.

Take heart, brother.

For God reassures us as written in the 37th Psalm:

1 Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong; 2 for like the grass
they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away.

3 Trust in the LORD and do good; dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture. 4 Delight yourself
in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.

5 Commit your way to the LORD ; trust in him and he will do this: 6 He will make your
righteousness shine like the dawn, the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.

7 Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when men succeed in their
ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes.

8 Refrain from anger and turn from wrath; do not fret-it leads only to evil. 9 For evil men
will be cut off, but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.

10 A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be
found. 11 But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace.

12 The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them; 13 but the Lord laughs
at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.

14 The wicked draw the sword and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy, to slay those
whose ways are upright. 15 But their swords will pierce their own hearts, and their bows will
be broken.

16 Better the little that the righteous have than the wealth of many wicked; 17 for the power
of the wicked will be broken, but the LORD upholds the righteous.

18 The days of the blameless are known to the LORD , and their inheritance will endure forever.
19 In times of disaster they will not wither; in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.

20 But the wicked will perish: The LORD's enemies will be like the beauty of the fields, they
will vanish-vanish like smoke.

21 The wicked borrow and do not repay, but the righteous give generously; 22 those the LORD
blesses will inherit the land, but those he curses will be cut off.

23 If the LORD delights in a man's way, he makes his steps firm; 24 though he stumble, he will
not fall, for the LORD upholds him with his hand.

25 I was young and now I am old, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children
begging bread. 26 They are always generous and lend freely; their children will be blessed.

27 Turn from evil and do good; then you will dwell in the land forever. 28 For the LORD loves
the just and will not forsake his faithful ones.

They will be protected forever, but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off; 29 the
righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it forever.

30 The mouth of the righteous man utters wisdom, and his tongue speaks what is just. 31 The law
of his God is in his heart; his feet do not slip.

32 The wicked lie in wait for the righteous, seeking their very lives; 33 but the LORD will not
leave them in their power or let them be condemned when brought to trial.

34 Wait for the LORD and keep his way. He will exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked
are cut off, you will see it.

35 I have seen a wicked and ruthless man flourishing like a green tree in its native soil, 36
but he soon passed away and was no more; though I looked for him, he could not be found.

37 Consider the blameless, observe the upright; there is a future for the man of peace. 38 But
all sinners will be destroyed; the future of the wicked will be cut off.

39 The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD ; he is their stronghold in time of
trouble. 40 The LORD helps them and delivers them; he delivers them from the wicked and saves
them, because they take refuge in him.

May God add His blessing to the writing of His Word here within SMC.

Amen.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

(Susan ) said:

Uh, no. I've been here at least a year. I have an interest and some research on the topic behind
me. It was easy to ignore Chung til you made him and you the central theme, as is both your habit.

You came looking for someone to flame with once everyone tired of your scorched earth policy on the
tinnitus newsgroup. You got bored as soon as you weren't allowed to flame there anymore and it
became a tame, quiet support group.

So you found another full time, 24/7 usenet troll to trade insults with. You both need full time
shrinks instead.

You sound more like the Captain every day, BTW.

Susan

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Go out and get a job, Suzie. Even something part-time. It would be good for you.

Yea, I know the government pays you for not working. You are one of the "able" disabled. So don't
work a forty hour week. But something part-time to help the economy just a little would be nice.

smn

Ear Rings said:

When will the attack on the Christian faith

You know, [censored], you need to distinguish between the faith and the frauds who say they're acting
on behalf of it. No one has attacked Christianity and you're clearly simply too stupid to recognize
that rather straightforward fact.

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and it's practitioners stop?

Practitioners like you and CHung and Mu and "John?" Ignoramuses spouting ill-considered "dogma" as
though there can only be one vision. You're right up there with all the other would-be dictators and
tinhorn "experts" who wouldn't know a logically reasoned line of though from their own asses. And
who read what they want into a rather lengthy book.

If your faith is so flimsy as to be influenced by anything posted here, you have larger problems to
deal with than some posts you dislike.

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I cannot believe the fear instilled in these people's hearts by a few words about our Saviour
Christ himself or that they fear the words spoke on his behalf.

And to absolutely document your stupidity, you confuse impatience with the superficial nonsense you
and the other ProsWackos peddle with fear. It's like you couldn't distinguish between an annoying
noise and apprehension. Or between a mosquito buzzing around your head with mortal terror. Ears, you
seemed to post rather light nonsense, but your last few have clearly marked you as a fanatical
lightweight in exactly the same camp as your heroes Chung and Mu_shbucket.

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May even Your God forgive you. Christ would.

You utter waste of skin. Are there other gods? Really? I thought you said you were Christian.

Christ would kick your ignorant ass and tell you to read the words as they're written, not as your
wishful thinking would make them.

Bob

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"wholey_smoke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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When Chung stops beating us around the head with religion, removes

religion

Quoted message said:

from his post's, then and only then can this stop. I'm sure that if a vote was taken most people
would want this, but Chung believes that it is his

God

Quoted message said:

given right to preach when ever and where ever he pleases regardless of

the

Quoted message said:

consequences. And he has the audacity to call himself a Christian with Christian values.

"Don Kirkman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't want to join in any of the current threads, but I'm going to express an opinion.

The current discussions of religion in this newsgroup are about as informed as my remarks would
be if I were to posting about cardiac functioning, the etiology of heart disease, the role of
cholesterol in cardiac health, or the nutritional needs of cardiac patients..

I've been exposed to a good deal of religious doctrine and history at a level far above what's
going on here, including some introduction to the founding documents and their interpretation,
and I hardly recognize some of the assumptions and assertions being made. I wish parties on both
sides would either drop the religious discussion or approach it with the same rigor they use in
discussing matters involving their professional expertise. Most of what passes for religious
knowledge here hardly rises above the level of popular Sunday/Sabbath school belief.

I came to this group because I'm a heart patient and, for a while, I found useful information and
suggestions. Lately I've simply marked everything read and passed on by because I have no
patience for the combination of off-topic posts and the abysmal level of knowledge about the
religious assumptions being thrust upon us.

Thus endeth the reading.
--
Don [email hidden]

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Susan wrote in article
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I came to this group because I'm a heart patient and, for a while, I found useful information and
suggestions. Lately I've simply marked everything read and passed on by because I have no patience
for the combination of off-topic posts and the abysmal level of knowledge about the religious
assumptions being thrust upon us.

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Thus endeth the reading.

If you just kill file the trolls Chung and Nagler you should be able to read smc related helpful
information.

You must have a lot of others kill filed already if you think those two are the sole offenders.
--
Don [email hidden]

(Susan ) said:

If you just kill file the trolls Chung and Nagler you should be able to read smc related helpful
information.

Susan

What a moronic thing to say.

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Mucho M_uns said:

(Susan ) said:

If you just kill file the trolls Chung

Mucho has just gone into my kill file

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