Old Cannondale?

(Har-VEE) said:

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is.
The chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about
two inches or so.

I remember those frames! I always thought the rear dropouts would
break off. 😉 I think those were the "2.8" frames, which came after
the "Criterium" frames, and before the "CAAD" frames... so, late '80s
or early '90s. I never had one... had a '88 SR500 with the "Criterium"
frame, and then went to a '98 XR800 with a CAAD 3 cyclocross frame.

--
Dan Birchall, Hilo HI - http://dan.birchalls.net/ - images, words, technology

Thanks Dan!!

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I remember those frames! I always thought the rear dropouts would
break off. 😉 I think those were the "2.8" frames, which came after
the "Criterium" frames, and before the "CAAD" frames... so, late '80s
or early '90s. I never had one... had a '88 SR500 with the "Criterium"
frame, and then went to a '98 XR800 with a CAAD 3 cyclocross frame.

--
Dan Birchall, Hilo HI - http://dan.birchalls.net/ - images, words,

technology

Dan Birchall said:

(Har-VEE) said:

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is.
The chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about
two inches or so.

I remember those frames! I always thought the rear dropouts would
break off. 😉 I think those were the "2.8" frames, which came after
the "Criterium" frames, and before the "CAAD" frames... so, late '80s
or early '90s.

93 or so, and the preferred failure mode is cracking the seatstays where
they are squashed flat to join the dropouts. Painted frames were better
than polished frames in this respect
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Marten Gerritsen

INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
www.m-gineering.nl

Tres Bien!!! Very Good....
For the last fifteen years as I have lay dormant, I have had but one
dream.... An outdated rig with a "preferred failure mode." Oh well, at
least the herpes is on sabbatical.

Je m'appelle "Harvey"
Au revoir

(Sorry about the cave-man Francais, I'm listening to stage ten on OLN)

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93 or so, and the preferred failure mode is cracking the seatstays where
they are squashed flat to join the dropouts. Painted frames were better
than polished frames in this respect
--
---
Marten Gerritsen

INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
www.m-gineering.nl

(Dan Birchall) said:

(Har-VEE) said:

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is.
The chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about
two inches or so.

I remember those frames! I always thought the rear dropouts would
break off. 😉 I think those were the "2.8" frames, which came after
the "Criterium" frames, and before the "CAAD" frames... so, late '80s
or early '90s. I never had one... had a '88 SR500 with the "Criterium"
frame, and then went to a '98 XR800 with a CAAD 3 cyclocross frame.

I have a '95 Cannondale frame with that feature - the derailleur
hanger extends horizontally past the seatstay. It is indeed a 2.8
frame, though it's also CAAD3. My frame is the road racing-style
frame, so the geometry is 73/73. I don't know if they also made a
tri-geometry version of the frame.

Michael

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:00:20 GMT, "Har-VEE" <[email hidden]>

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Hey I'm just getting back on the road after a brief, fifteen year training
pause.

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is. The
chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about two inches or
so. The bike looks to have tri-type geometry. I double dare you to tell me
what this bone jarring monster is.

Thanks for you time, understanding and any wise cracks you care to throw my
direction.

I've got a 1990 Cannondale SR600 with the Criterium Geometry that has
those dropouts. Its got about 10k miles on it, and I've never had a
single problem until recently when I started riding again and realized
that my backside was more forgiving at 22 than 32...but I still love
the bike & the frame--I've trained, road-raced, raced crits, done TTs,
and a couple of centuries on the bike, and it still handles like a
dream--tracks straight, turns on a dime.

If you do have the crit geometry, be forewarned that it has a
non-trivial amount of toe-clip overlap. Its never been a problem for
me, but YMMV.

Great bike!

Matt.

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Your Pal,
Harvey

"Har-VEE" wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is. The
chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about two inches or
so. The bike looks to have tri-type geometry. I double dare you to tell

me

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what this bone jarring monster is.

Har-VEE,

While others have mentioned the 2.8 series, this rear drop out "feature" was
part of the older 3.0/Criterium frames as well. I purchased mine new in
1989 or 1990. It was a solid bike, but bone jarring on Cobblestones! =)

-simon

This sounds like my 'dale.

Its a great ride, especially since I put a Brooks Champion Flyer seat
on it. In case you are not familiar with this seat, it is,
essentially, a B17 with springs.

Lewis.

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Quoted message said:

Hey I'm just getting back on the road after a brief, fifteen year training
pause.

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is. The
chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about two inches or
so. The bike looks to have tri-type geometry. I double dare you to tell me
what this bone jarring monster is.

Thanks for you time, understanding and any wise cracks you care to throw my
direction.

Your Pal,
Harvey

Lewis Campbell said:

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Quoted message said:

Hey I'm just getting back on the road after a brief, fifteen year training
pause.

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is. The
chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about two inches or
so. The bike looks to have tri-type geometry. I double dare you to tell me
what this bone jarring monster is.

This sounds like my 'dale.

Its a great ride, especially since I put a Brooks Champion Flyer seat
on it. In case you are not familiar with this seat, it is,
essentially, a B17 with springs.

Sounds like mine too. You might be able to get more information if you
check the serial number. On mine it's located under the left chainstay
and mine seems to have the format:
ABBCCDDEEEE
where
A: model type?
BB: frame size
CC: month of manufacture
DD: year of manufacture
EEEE: frame number?
but I've seen some numbers with slight variations in the format.

Mine is the Criterium 3.0 model made in late '89. It gets ridden about
6000 miles per year and hasn't yet demonstrated any 'preferred failure
mode.'
Nice ride and handling with the pronounced toe-overlap (rare on a 60 cm
frame) the only negative thing I've noticed.

(Peter) said:

Mine is the Criterium 3.0 model made in late '89. It gets ridden about
6000 miles per year and hasn't yet demonstrated any 'preferred failure
mode.'
Nice ride and handling with the pronounced toe-overlap (rare on a 60 cm
frame) the only negative thing I've noticed.

If toe-overlap is the "can't turn the front wheel sharply without your toe
hitting it," I have that in spades on my '98 CAAD 3 Cyclocross frame... but
it may be a smaller size. Not sure, they don't seem to still put stickers
on stating those. 🙂

--
Dan Birchall, Hilo HI - http://dan.birchalls.net/ - images, words, technology

Hey gang thanks for the help. Right now I'm just trying to get back in the
game. I am quite positive that a slew of stupid questions will spill forth
from this IP address in the near future

Your Pal,
Harvey - If I'm not pukin' I'm not trying.

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(Peter) said:

Mine is the Criterium 3.0 model made in late '89. It gets ridden about
6000 miles per year and hasn't yet demonstrated any 'preferred failure
mode.'
Nice ride and handling with the pronounced toe-overlap (rare on a 60 cm
frame) the only negative thing I've noticed.

If toe-overlap is the "can't turn the front wheel sharply without your toe
hitting it," I have that in spades on my '98 CAAD 3 Cyclocross frame...

but

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it may be a smaller size. Not sure, they don't seem to still put stickers
on stating those. 🙂

--
Dan Birchall, Hilo HI - http://dan.birchalls.net/ - images, words,

technology

Har-VEE said:

Hey I'm just getting back on the road after a brief, fifteen year training
pause.

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is. The
chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about two inches or
so. The bike looks to have tri-type geometry. I double dare you to tell me
what this bone jarring monster is.

All the old ones had those dropouts - I think my MTB is a 3.0 Mountain
frame.

Rather pleasingly, Cannondale haven't changed the replaceable mech
hanger in the last 12 years. I got one the other week and it showed how
bent the original was (this is a much-crashed bike).

Thanks for the info Zog,
The C'dale was the Cats Ass in my little world, just before I hung it all up
and walked away. I'm
getting all giddy waiting for this thing to show up.
Harvey

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Har-VEE said:

Hey I'm just getting back on the road after a brief, fifteen year

training

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pause.

I just purchased an old Cannondale online. Not sure which it is. The
chainstays extend past the seat stays what looks to be about two inches

or

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so. The bike looks to have tri-type geometry. I double dare you to

tell me

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Quoted message said:

what this bone jarring monster is.

All the old ones had those dropouts - I think my MTB is a 3.0 Mountain
frame.

Rather pleasingly, Cannondale haven't changed the replaceable mech
hanger in the last 12 years. I got one the other week and it showed how
bent the original was (this is a much-crashed bike).