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  1. I picked up an old Steyr 3 speed, which is unfortunately
    painted purple with nice rust highlights, and I'd like to
    spray it black. I've sprayed enough things to know how to
    actually paint it, but I don't know what to do about the
    bottom bracket and headset bearings. Is it possible to take
    them out easily, or can I get away with masking around
    them? I'm planning to strip down to bare metal with an
    angle grinder and wire brush attachment, so there's liable
    to be a fair bit of metal dust about the place. Will it be
    possible to find replacement bearings if I kill them with
    metal dust or have I got to cosset them for fear of never
    finding spares?

    The other thing is that the seat tube seems very short
    compared to my mountain bike's seat tube, and the seat will
    almost certainly be too low for me whilst there's a
    reasonable length of tube in the clamp. Have seat posts
    stayed the same over the years, or will I be looking for
    something odd?

  2. Doki said:

    I picked up an old Steyr 3 speed, which is unfortunately
    painted purple with nice rust highlights, and I'd like to
    spray it black.

    Or even a Puch 3 speed 🙂.

  3. On Fri, 7 May 2004 16:11:42 +0100, "Doki" <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    I picked up an old Steyr 3 speed, which is unfortunately
    painted purple with nice rust highlights, and I'd like to
    spray it black. I've sprayed enough things to know how to
    actually paint it, but I don't know what to do about the
    bottom bracket and headset bearings. Is it possible to take
    them out easily

    Yes, for certain values of the word "easily". Since you
    presumably want to remove the cranks anyway, the extra work
    to remove the BB is not all that much.

    Quoted message said:

    or can I get away with masking around them?

    You might; it's a toss-up in my opinion as to which is the
    better choice.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm planning to strip down to bare metal with an angle
    grinder and wire brush attachment, so there's liable to be
    a fair bit of metal dust about the place. Will it be
    possible to find replacement bearings if I kill them with
    metal dust or have I got to cosset them for fear of never
    finding spares?

    Most likely, yes, from what I recall. I have a similar bike
    in my collection; its BB is not exotic.

    Quoted message said:

    The other thing is that the seat tube seems very short
    compared to my mountain bike's seat tube, and the seat will
    almost certainly be too low for me whilst there's a
    reasonable length of tube in the clamp. Have seat posts
    stayed the same over the years, or will I be looking for
    something odd?

    Match for size and you're in good shape. Most of the Puch
    3-speeds were made for cruiser-style riding, which generally
    doesn't involve a lot of seat elevation.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via
    e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words
    processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  4. Doki said:

    I picked up an old Steyr 3 speed, which is unfortunately
    painted purple with nice rust highlights, and I'd like to
    spray it black. I've sprayed enough things to know how to
    actually paint it, but I don't know what to do about the
    bottom bracket and headset bearings. Is it possible to
    take them out easily, or can I get away with masking
    around them? I'm planning to strip down to bare metal with
    an angle grinder and wire brush attachment, so there's
    liable to be a fair bit of metal dust about the place.
    Will it be possible to find replacement bearings if I kill
    them with metal dust or have I got to cosset them for fear
    of never finding spares?

    The other thing is that the seat tube seems very short
    compared to my mountain bike's seat tube, and the seat
    will almost certainly be too low for me whilst there's a
    reasonable length of tube in the clamp. Have seat posts
    stayed the same over the years, or will I be looking for
    something odd?


    Neither piece is complex, the actual balls are very standard
    sizes and cheap, and both could probably do with a good
    cleaning and fresh lubricant. Your crank may be "cottered",
    which is what our industry calls steel cranks with wedge
    pins. If you're lucky, there is a greybeard at an LBS nearby
    with both replacement pins (
    9.5mm) and the Var #7 press to set them. The other crank in
    Steyr bikes would be a Thun with a pinch bolt on the left
    and a right crank that's one with the spindle (
    inspiration for the current DuraAce?). While lower quality
    somewhat, that type would be easier for the home mechanic
    to service. Its retainer clips are an unusual format, but
    new balls may be snapped into those or just replace them
    with a set of loose balls . The locknut and adjustment are
    reverse threaded.

    The headset similarly may have an unavailable retainer but
    loose balls are arguably better anyway. Your seat post is
    25.4mm - same as all that general class of bicycle. Wald
    #901 posts are fifteen inches long,$5 to $10.

    Steyr used two hubs, a "Steyr" marked Sturmey Archer copy
    which can use SA cables, shifter and axle nuts or a Torpedo
    which will give you difficulty on those parts.

    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
    April, 1971

  5. Quoted message said:
    Doki said:

    I picked up an old Steyr 3 speed, which is unfortunately
    painted purple with nice rust highlights, and I'd like to
    spray it black.

    Quoted message said:

    Or even a Puch 3 speed 🙂.

    From Steyr-Daimler-Puch, as it was once called?

    Now a division of Bianchi, owned by CycleEurope.
    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
    April, 1971

  6. A Muzi said:
    Quoted message said:
    Doki said:

    I picked up an old Steyr 3 speed, which is unfortunately
    painted purple with nice rust highlights, and I'd like
    to spray it black.

    Quoted message said:

    Or even a Puch 3 speed 🙂.

    From Steyr-Daimler-Puch, as it was once called?

    Now a division of Bianchi, owned by CycleEurope.

    And Steyr seem to be making rifles for the Austrian army.

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