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Jim Ranieri · 2005-02-04T13:44:45+00:00

News article about a local kid http://www.dailyherald.com/prepsports/prep_story.asp?intID=38387107 excerpt: The explosive nature of his type of weightlifting benefits both pursuits, and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant Mike DiNovo, especially on double-leg takedowns. They both recall a telling moment in an early-season match against Glenbard North standout John Malizzio. "He took Malizzio and he lifted him a little bit and he gave him a little bit of a twist and set Malizzio right down on his back," Dyche says. "I went, 'Wow,' because Malizzio is a tough kid. You just don't throw Malizzio around, and for that moment, it was quick, it was slick, and it was powerful. Matt did it like it was, 'Yeah, I do this all the time.'" _______________________________

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Jim Ranieri
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4 February 2005, 13:44 UTC #1

News article about a local kid
http://www.dailyherald.com/prepsports/prep_story.asp?intID=38387107
excerpt:
The explosive nature of his type of weightlifting benefits both pursuits,
and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant Mike DiNovo,
especially on double-leg takedowns.
They both recall a telling moment in an early-season match against Glenbard
North standout John Malizzio.
"He took Malizzio and he lifted him a little bit and he gave him a little
bit of a twist and set Malizzio right down on his back," Dyche says. "I
went, 'Wow,' because Malizzio is a tough kid. You just don't throw Malizzio
around, and for that moment, it was quick, it was slick, and it was
powerful. Matt did it like it was, 'Yeah, I do this all the time.'"
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Hobbes
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4 February 2005, 14:25 UTC #2

In article said:
News article about a local kid
http://www.dailyherald.com/prepsports/prep_story.asp?intID=38387107
excerpt:
The explosive nature of his type of weightlifting benefits both pursuits,
and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant Mike DiNovo,
especially on double-leg takedowns.
We used a lot of variants of olympic lifts while training Viola Yanik for
the olympics last year. She is exceptionaly explosive and strong. Of
course, if you want to wrestle that isn't enough. You also need stamina
and technique. Lots of stamina and technique.

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Jim Ranieri
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4 February 2005, 16:22 UTC #3

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News article about a local kid
http://www.dailyherald.com/prepsports/prep_story.asp?intID=38387107
excerpt:
The explosive nature of his type of weightlifting benefits both

pursuits,
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and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant Mike

DiNovo,
Quoted message said:
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especially on double-leg takedowns.
We used a lot of variants of olympic lifts while training Viola Yanik for
the olympics last year. She is exceptionaly explosive and strong. Of
course, if you want to wrestle that isn't enough. You also need stamina
and technique. Lots of stamina and technique.
Of course, if your technique is good enough - you don't really need stamina.
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Hobbes
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4 February 2005, 16:43 UTC #4

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"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>, "Jim Ranieri" <nah,>

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Quoted message said:
News article about a local kid
http://www.dailyherald.com/prepsports/prep_story.asp?intID=38387107
excerpt:
The explosive nature of his type of weightlifting benefits both

pursuits,
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant Mike

DiNovo,
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
especially on double-leg takedowns.
We used a lot of variants of olympic lifts while training Viola Yanik for
the olympics last year. She is exceptionaly explosive and strong. Of
course, if you want to wrestle that isn't enough. You also need stamina
and technique. Lots of stamina and technique.
Of course, if your technique is good enough - you don't really need stamina.
Depends. On the other persons technique. If it is also good enough - you
need stamina.
Put another way - at the olympic level you better be in shape. Strength,
speed, stamina and technique.

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John Hanson
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5 February 2005, 13:21 UTC #5

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:43:27 -0600, [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote
in misc.fitness.weights:
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In article said:
"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>, "Jim Ranieri" <nah,>

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> News article about a local kid
> http://www.dailyherald.com/prepsports/prep_story.asp?intID=38387107
>
> excerpt:
>
> The explosive nature of his type of weightlifting benefits both

pursuits,
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> and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant Mike

DiNovo,
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> especially on double-leg takedowns.
We used a lot of variants of olympic lifts while training Viola Yanik for
the olympics last year. She is exceptionaly explosive and strong. Of
course, if you want to wrestle that isn't enough. You also need stamina
and technique. Lots of stamina and technique.
Of course, if your technique is good enough - you don't really need stamina.
Depends. On the other persons technique. If it is also good enough - you
need stamina.
Put another way - at the olympic level you better be in shape. Strength,
speed, stamina and technique.
I think that was a joke.

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Hobbes
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5 February 2005, 15:14 UTC #6

In article <[email hidden]>, John Hanson
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:43:27 -0600, [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote
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"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email hidden]>, "Jim Ranieri" <nah,>
wrote:
>
> > News article about a local kid
> > http://www.dailyherald.com/prepsports/prep_story.asp?intID=38387107
> >
> > excerpt:
> >
> > The explosive nature of his type of weightlifting benefits both
pursuits,
> > and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant Mike
DiNovo,
> > especially on double-leg takedowns.
>
> We used a lot of variants of olympic lifts while training Viola Yanik for
> the olympics last year. She is exceptionaly explosive and strong. Of
> course, if you want to wrestle that isn't enough. You also need stamina
> and technique. Lots of stamina and technique.
Of course, if your technique is good enough - you don't really need

stamina.
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Depends. On the other persons technique. If it is also good enough - you
need stamina.
Put another way - at the olympic level you better be in shape. Strength,
speed, stamina and technique.
I think that was a joke.
It was a humour. But as a martial artist Jim also knows my point is valid.
You know what you bring to the table, but you never know what the other
person does...
--
Keith

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Jim Ranieri
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5 February 2005, 15:21 UTC #7

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> > > and is clear to head wrestling coach George Dyche and assistant

Mike
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> DiNovo,
> > > especially on double-leg takedowns.
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> > We used a lot of variants of olympic lifts while training Viola

Yanik for
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> > the olympics last year. She is exceptionaly explosive and strong.

Of
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> > course, if you want to wrestle that isn't enough. You also need

stamina
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> > and technique. Lots of stamina and technique.
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> Of course, if your technique is good enough - you don't really need

stamina.
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Depends. On the other persons technique. If it is also good enough -

you
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need stamina.
Put another way - at the olympic level you better be in shape.

Strength,
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speed, stamina and technique.
I think that was a joke.
It was a humour. But as a martial artist Jim also knows my point is valid.
You know what you bring to the table, but you never know what the other
person does...
Martial artist? I'm a wrestler, damnit - not some pajama-wearin sissy.

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5 February 2005, 15:30 UTC #8

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:43:27 -0600, [email hidden] (Hobbes) wrote
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>In article <[email hidden]>, "Jim Ranieri" <nah,>

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Mike
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>> > We used a lot of variants of olympic lifts while training Viola

Yanik for
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>> > the olympics last year. She is exceptionaly explosive and strong.

Of
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>> > course, if you want to wrestle that isn't enough. You also need

stamina
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>> > and technique. Lots of stamina and technique.
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>> Of course, if your technique is good enough - you don't really need

stamina.
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>Depends. On the other persons technique. If it is also good enough -

you
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>need stamina.
>
>Put another way - at the olympic level you better be in shape.

Strength,
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>speed, stamina and technique.
I think that was a joke.
It was a humour. But as a martial artist Jim also knows my point is valid.
You know what you bring to the table, but you never know what the other
person does...
Martial artist? I'm a wrestler, damnit - not some pajama-wearin sissy.
LOL!
--
Keith

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DanL
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9 February 2005, 03:18 UTC #9

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Depends. On the other persons technique. If it is also good enough - you
need stamina.

This is where my son has won quite a few matches, by being in better shape
against guys who are actually better wrestlers. They get so used to winning
fast, when someone makes them go 3 periods, they can't handle it.

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