Olympic Trials

On 02 Feb 2004 21:51:49 GMT, [email hidden] (Lanceandrew) wrote:

Global, could you name me ten things that *do* make you happy?

From: "In another life, when we are both cats" [email hidden]
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Global, could you name me ten things that *do* make you happy?
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Geee....what could possibly make me happy [email hidden] ? I'll have to think long and
hard about that one.

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From: "In another life, when we are both cats" [email hidden] Said:

Global, could you name me ten things that *do* make you happy?
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Geee....what could possibly make me happy [email hidden] ?

I'll

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have to think long and hard about that one.

I bet she's the saddest girl to ever hold a martini.

cheers,
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David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org

Since I was planning on going until some other commitments got in the way, I would say this is
really cool way to do it. For one thing, it does allow spectators a chance to see the runners
several times. It also makes things easier in terms of road closures (a major pain in the ass to get
done) and makes the logistics of aid stations much easier. Also, the sponsors get their banners seen
by more people.

The course was run last year (although I think they made a tweak or two) and the consensus was the
runners liked it.

The course had to be approved by USATF so your criticism that the course is laid out by one of the
competitors (who might not have even qualified since the course was picked a long time ago) is
weak. It is not a course that really benefits anyone one in particular. My hope is that the top 3
run an "A" time!

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Sam, glad to be back after a bit of a hiatus. "Lanceandrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Why Loops? so fans get multiple glimpses?..gimma a break..... I hate

looped

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courses for anything other than sprints and c'mon...this is the Olympic Trials....I think we have
enough resources to support a course that models

a

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typical marathon course. What ever happend to the whole idea of having unique landmarks/challenges
along the way? You know...distinguishing character of all sections of the course?....this is
nonsense...and for the

US

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Olympic Trials?

And something just strikes as odd and unfair about having a competitor be

the

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person who laysout and defines the course. The principle of it just

strikes

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as not right for the other competitors. Was there no one else in the

United

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States capable of designing this course?

Seems awful "mickey mouse" to me. 1) 3 Repetitive Loops & 2) A

Competitor

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Designs it. I think we're a better nation than this....good grief.

global

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Why Loops? so fans get multiple glimpses?..gimma a break..... I hate looped courses for anything
other than sprints and c'mon...this is the Olympic Trials....I think we have enough resources to
support a course that models a typical marathon course.

A typical "big medal event" course consists of two or more loops - or is my memory hugely in error?

(The 2004 marathon course will be an exception, though, for an obvious reason.)

OTOH if your Olympic Committee put its resources to finding a 1:1 copy of the course in Athens, it
could be fairly interesting...

Anders

... points strike as thin imo due to the fact the very next day is the mercedes marathon at the same
place. i'd prefer to see the trial guys simply start minutes ahead of the "at-large" field. oh well.

i'm rooting for 42 yr. old Hellebuyck, the only guy in the field i know is older than me.

Sam said:

Since I was planning on going until some other commitments got in the way, I would say this is
really cool way to do it. For one thing, it does allow spectators a chance to see the runners
several times. It also makes things easier in terms of road closures (a major pain in the ass to
get done) and makes the logistics of aid stations much easier. Also, the sponsors get their banners
seen by more people.

I agree. Loop courses have many advantages.

Plus, laying out a non-looped course that would be fast might be difficult in Birmingham. (I
note that he was asked specifically to make the course faster.) I've been there for a couple of
train shows and the ridges that dominate the area probably limit where you can go to get a flat,
fast course.

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The course was run last year (although I think they made a tweak or two) and the consensus was the
runners liked it.

The course had to be approved by USATF so your criticism that the course is laid out by one of
the competitors (who might not have even qualified since the course was picked a long time
ago) is weak.

Yeah, designing the course is a non-factor. Being able to train on it might help for pacing, but
that's irrespective of his designing it.

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It is not a course that really benefits anyone one in particular. My hope is that the top 3 run an
"A" time!

Roger that.

Mike Tennent "IronPenguin"