Omloop

tvaughn said:

Will someone be so kind as to explain to this American, who is new to this sport, what Omloop means. I can't find a definition on Google. We have a local race around here called an Omloop, and no one could tell me any more than that they call races in Belgium omloops.

I'm pretty sure it refers to the one day classic races. I have only heard it used when refering to Het Volk.

lw

tvaughn said:

Will someone be so kind as to explain to this American, who is new to this sport, what Omloop means. I can't find a definition on Google. We have a local race around here called an Omloop, and no one could tell me any more than that they call races in Belgium omloops.

Well, this American, not quite as new, also doesn't know, but does recall that there exists babelfish.altavista.com, an online translator whose results are of mixed quality.

If you translate omloop from Dutch to English, you get trip. I suspect that leads to a concept of a loop or a round (which Ronde, as in Ronde van Vlaanderen or Tour of Flanders, becomes when babelfished from French to English). Ultimately, these terms are equivalent to Tour, Vuelta, Giro, etc., which are terms not only applied to the three week grand tours but also to many other races, including single day races (such as the Giro di Lombardia, last of the major single day races during the year).

Obviously no expert, but as the question was still hanging, in my opinion...

Got curious myself... 🙂

From babylon.com:

omloop (de)
n. circulation, circuit, revolution, turnover, goods turnover, traffic, currency

So I think my previous answer is correct. The only question in my mind is whether one can have a multi-stage Omloop - I don't know of one that exists.

tvaughn said:

Will someone be so kind as to explain to this American, who is new to this sport, what Omloop means. I can't find a definition on Google. We have a local race around here called an Omloop, and no one could tell me any more than that they call races in Belgium omloops.

Omloop is fllemish and means something like Tour. Omloop van de Kempen is a tour through the region kempen.

cyclingheroes said:

Omloop is fllemish and means something like Tour. Omloop van de Kempen is a tour through the region kempen.

So I can call the ride around my neighbor hood "Omloop old French Town". I like it.

beautifulvista.comsouth shingle old french town loop.htmOpen ↗

Sorry for the crappy graphic. Mr and Mrs LW live where the box points to.

lw

lwedge said:

So I can call the ride around my neighbor hood "Omloop old French Town". I like it.

beautifulvista.comsouth shingle old french town loop.htmOpen ↗

Sorry for the crappy graphic. Mr and Mrs LW live where the box points to.

lw

or you can call it "Old French Town Turn" (Turn being German for circuit, tour)

or you can call it "Le Grand Boucle d'Old French Town" (grand boucle translates as the Big Tour/Circuit/Circle) !

limerickman said:

or you can call it "Old French Town Turn" (Turn being German for circuit, tour)

or you can call it "Le Grand Boucle d'Old French Town" (grand boucle translates as the Big Tour/Circuit/Circle) !

Hey ! I like those.

Thanks,

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JRMDC said:

Got curious myself... 🙂

From babylon.com:

omloop (de)
n. circulation, circuit, revolution, turnover, goods turnover, traffic, currency

So I think my previous answer is correct. The only question in my mind is whether one can have a multi-stage Omloop - I don't know of one that exists.

JRMDC said:

Got curious myself... 🙂

From babylon.com:

omloop (de)
n. circulation, circuit, revolution, turnover, goods turnover, traffic, currency

So I think my previous answer is correct. The only question in my mind is whether one can have a multi-stage Omloop - I don't know of one that exists.

Yes you can the Flemish call Circuit de la Sarthe ( the small tour in France - by the way the overall was won by a guy called Schumacher), Omloop de la Sarthe

Lim: Turn is not German, they say Rund um ( like the oldest German Race "Rund um Köln"😉 or if it's a stage race "Rundfahrt". Rund um means around.

limerickman said:

or you can call it "Old French Town Turn" (Turn being German for circuit, tour)

or you can call it "Le Grand Boucle d'Old French Town" (grand boucle translates as the Big Tour/Circuit/Circle) !

If I call my early morning ride something like that the crowd it attracts might keep the kangaroos off the road.

cyclingheroes said:

Lim: Turn is not German, they say Rund um ( like the oldest German Race "Rund um Köln"😉 or if it's a stage race "Rundfahrt". Rund um means around.

Of course, you're correct.

I had the Henninger Turm in mind as I posted that message.
Instead I should have had Rund um Köln in mind.

whiteboytrash said:

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Of course! Hence my use of qualifiers including "I suspect" and "I think".

As an ongoing form of cheap entertainment, I will occasionally babel (not "translate"😉 some english into french and humor 🙂 my wife, who is fluent in both.

limerickman said:

Of course, you're correct.

I had the Henninger Turm in mind as I posted that message.
Instead I should have had Rund um Köln in mind.

What is a "Turm", please? I've on occasion wondered.

JRMDC said:

What is a "Turm", please? I've on occasion wondered.

Turm = tower (using my secondary school ie high school, German)

limerickman said:

Of course, you're correct.

I had the Henninger Turm in mind as I posted that message.
Instead I should have had Rund um Köln in mind.

Funny i already thought you came to it because of Henninger Turm. Henninger Turm means Henninger Tower, the race finishes at the tower.

Edit: sorry i just saw it was already explained what turm means...

cyclingheroes said:

Funny i already thought you came to it because of Henninger Turm. Henninger Turm means Henninger Tower, the race finishes at the tower.

Edit: sorry i just saw it was already explained what turm means...

As a aside CH, we were taught German and French in secondary school (ages 12-17).
My German (and French) lanuguage ability is pitifully poor despite that.

It never ceases to amaze me how people from mainland Europe speak English (and write) in English so well.

limerickman said:

As a aside CH, we were taught German and French in secondary school (ages 12-17).
My German (and French) lanuguage ability is pitifully poor despite that.

It never ceases to amaze me how people from mainland Europe speak English (and write) in English so well.

Living in Germany, my Dutch is getting worse every year... but in a small country like the Netherlands you have to speak foreign languages (without speaking English you don't even get a job in a supermarket, not in Amsterdam) to make a living... and i still speak English every day (although it didn't help me to get Italian accreditations for Tirreno, 2 Belgium stages and the last week of the Giro, i had to do it in Italian and Italian only, i managed to understand the form for the request with Babbelfish, a translation book, a couple of Italian words i knew and commen sense - got the accreditations but it wasn't easy..)

limerickman said:

or you can call it "Old French Town Turn" (Turn being German for circuit, tour)

or you can call it "Le Grand Boucle d'Old French Town" (grand boucle translates as the Big Tour/Circuit/Circle) !

How about "Giro dell'Old French Town", or if you really want to impress your friends, go with " Giro del vecchio villaggio francese" :p

cyclingheroes said:

Living in Germany, my Dutch is getting worse every year... but in a small country like the Netherlands you have to speak foreign languages (without speaking English you don't even get a job in a supermarket, not in Amsterdam) to make a living... and i still speak English every day (although it didn't help me to get Italian accreditations for Tirreno, 2 Belgium stages and the last week of the Giro, i had to do it in Italian and Italian only, i managed to understand the form for the request with Babbelfish, a translation book, a couple of Italian words i knew and commen sense - got the accreditations but it wasn't easy..)

See, the nice people at the Giro are helping you learn another European language! 🙄