OT: filtering MV posts and replies

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any subsequent
replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some number
@4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no good.

I've just had a filter on his email addy, then plonk the chronic
knucklehead responders as they rear their ugly mug.

It's been working pretty good so far, but if you come up with a more
effective method, please, so tell.
--
Slacker

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any subsequent
replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some number
@4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no good.

Pan 0.14.2 - I've plonked him six ways from Sunday (took me a little while
to figure out that Pan sets the default plonk to 30 days) and just set all
his threads to "ignore". Seems to be working, I am now blissfully
Vandeman-free. 🙂

gabrielle

Slacker said:

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any
subsequent replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some
number @4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no
good.

I've just had a filter on his email addy, then plonk the chronic
knucklehead responders as they rear their ugly mug.

It's been working pretty good so far, but if you come up with a more
effective method, please, so tell.

/me wonders if he's been killfiled by half of AMB for replying to Vandemann
😄.

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any subsequent
replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some number
@4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no good.

I just hit the 'Ignore thread' button every time he posts (using Pan).

sittingduck said:

I'm pretty sure the only client that lets you kill entire threads is Xnews.

Pan does too.

bomba says:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm pretty sure the only client that lets you kill entire threads is Xnews.

Pan does too.

Fortunately, AOHell's newsreader comes with the option to add filters with:
1. Subject contains...
2. Subject Matches ...
3. Author is ... (my personal favourite)
4. Domain is ...

That provides a fair degree of customisation. Fortunately. it also gives you
the option to read "Unfiltered" posts if you wish to see what the monkey house
is up to from time to time.

Steve

sittingduck said:

AOL is pure [censored]. Any one of the several readers mentioned here are about 100
times more advanced, and let you access any server you want.

Why does it wind you up so much about what ISP other people use?

bomba says, of sittingduck:

Quoted message said:

Why does it wind you up so much about what ISP other people use?

Coz he's an Internet snob - it's called "reverse elitism" ;-)

AOL has not stifled my creativity on Usenet in the least. I ca nstillaccess
any server I want, if I want to fire up another reader while logged on. But
why bother?

Steve

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any subsequent
replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some number
@4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no good.

Most of his posts are cross-posted to sci.environment and other unrelated
newsgroups, and most of the replies as well. Have you tried using this?

That being said, I've tried it a bit and it hasn't worked for me with
slrn. I just filter on him and a few other rabid responders (e.g. Jeff
Strickland) by name. There really aren't that many these days (compared to
a few years ago, when on-topic posts were rare on r.b.o for reasons other
than the current one).

--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

sittingduck said:

BB said:

Most of his posts are cross-posted to sci.environment and other unrelated
newsgroups, and most of the replies as well. Have you tried using this?

This works great in Xnews, which according to the manual, "happily steals the
scoring system concept from slrn"

[^alt\.mountain\-bike$]
Score:: -9999
XRef: ca\.environment|sci\.environment

Excellent. I'll try that. Thanks!

--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

In news:[email hidden],
Monique Y. Mudama <[email hidden]> scribbled:

Quoted message said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any
subsequent replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some
number @4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no
good.

I just ignore his posts. At least that way I only have a single thread to
pass by rather than a dozen reply threads. And even though some people reply
to him, I can still find their other posts interesting - so I avoid plonking
every single person who replies. Heck, if I did that, there'd only be a
handful of posts to read.

It's not that bad, really. There are several other people whose threads I
don't read either (this ng, and others... especially on r.b.r!), for one
reason or another. Same difference.

The option to automatically kill the entire thread is cool. But it seems
that it's specific to a very few news readers. I'd rather not switch, and
ignoring an occasional thread isn't any hassle.

Outlook Express has an "Ignore Conversation" feature, but it still lists the
thread unless you change the view to "Hide Read or Ignored messages", which
doesn't work for me. I'll often go back to previously read posts for
reference.

--

FlyingCoyote

--

BB said:

sittingduck said:

[^alt\.mountain\-bike$]
Score:: -9999
XRef: ca\.environment|sci\.environment

Excellent. I'll try that. Thanks!

Didn't work with slrn. :-(

--
-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

Slacker said:

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any
subsequent replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some
number @4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no
good.

I've just had a filter on his email addy, then plonk the chronic
knucklehead responders as they rear their ugly mug.

It's been working pretty good so far, but if you come up with a more
effective method, please, so tell.

That would work 100% if we could only convince Bill Sorni to stop
responding. I've killed most of the habitual responders, but can't resist
reading Bill's Quixote-like jousting with the old lunatic. I'm reminded of
the saying: Never mud wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig
enjoys it.

I'll live it up to the group to decide which side of the equation Bill fits
into.

Tom

On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:13:04 -0600, "Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

..Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any subsequent
..replies?

There wouldn't be anything left, and certainly nothing worth reading!

..The References field in MV responses seems to always include some number
[email hidden], but so do responses to other threads, so that's no good.

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

tcmedara said:

Slacker said:

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any
subsequent replies?

The References field in MV responses seems to always include some
number @4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no
good.

I've just had a filter on his email addy, then plonk the chronic
knucklehead responders as they rear their ugly mug.

It's been working pretty good so far, but if you come up with a more
effective method, please, so tell.

That would work 100% if we could only convince Bill Sorni to stop
responding. I've killed most of the habitual responders, but can't
resist reading Bill's Quixote-like jousting with the old lunatic.
I'm reminded of the saying: Never mud wrestle with a pig, you both
get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

I'll live it up to the group to decide which side of the equation
Bill fits into.

I really do try to "pick and choose" my M^V debaucheries (word?), but will
restrain myself further in the future.

Bill "oinks not ploinks" S.

On Thu, 27 May 2004 05:12:09 GMT, " S o r n i" <[email hidden]> wrote:

..tcmedara wrote:
..> Slacker <[email hidden]> wrote:
..>> Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
..>>
..>>> Anyone been able to reliably filter out both MV posts and any
..>>> subsequent replies?
..>>>
..>>> The References field in MV responses seems to always include some
..>>> number @4ax.com, but so do responses to other threads, so that's no
..>>> good.
..>>>
..>> >
..>> I've just had a filter on his email addy, then plonk the chronic
..>> knucklehead responders as they rear their ugly mug.
..>>
..>> It's been working pretty good so far, but if you come up with a more
..>> effective method, please, so tell.
..>
..> That would work 100% if we could only convince Bill Sorni to stop
..> responding. I've killed most of the habitual responders, but can't
..> resist reading Bill's Quixote-like jousting with the old lunatic.
..> I'm reminded of the saying: Never mud wrestle with a pig, you both
..> get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
..>
..> I'll live it up to the group to decide which side of the equation
..> Bill fits into.
..
..I really do try to "pick and choose" my M^V debaucheries (word?), but will
..restrain myself further in the future.

Liar. You can't help yourself. Montainbikers have no self-control whatsoever.

..Bill "oinks not ploinks" S.
..

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

S o r n i said:

I really do try to "pick and choose" my M^V debaucheries (word?)

Yes, it's a word. The wrong one mind, but still a word 🙂

Unless you really were talking about sexual indulgences with the doc...

"bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 27 May 2004 05:12:09 +0000, S o r n i wrote:

Unless you really were talking about sexual indulgences with the doc...

While debauchery may refer to indulging sexual appetites, it does not mean a
sex act per se. Its definition is wider than that and can include giving
into drugs and alcohol as well as passion. It also has a secondary
definition that means, basically, failing to uphold one's duties. So, while
Sorni does not have to be specifically discussing sex acts with the good
doctor, I am not sure if the definition is wide enough to include posting
when one knows one should not. On second thought, language is ever evolving
and this could be just the new usage this old word needs to become relevant
again. Debauchery: posting when one knows better.

If that is the case, then this post itself is debauched!

debauched
adjective
weakened or destroyed by bad sexual behaviour, drinking too much alcohol,
taking drugs, etc:
his debauched lifestyle

debauchee
noun [C]
a debauched person:
He gave a convincing stage performance as the unpleasant young debauchee.

debauchery
noun [U]
a life of debauchery


debaucheries
Debauchery \De*bauch"er*y\, n.; pl. Debaucheries. 1. Corruption of fidelity;
seduction from virtue, duty, or allegiance.

The republic of Paris will endeavor to complete the debauchery of the
army. --Burke.

2. Excessive indulgence of the appetites; especially, excessive indulgence
of lust; intemperance; sensuality; habitual lewdness.

Oppose . . . debauchery by temperance. --Sprat.

In article said:

BB said:

sittingduck said:

[^alt\.mountain\-bike$]
Score:: -9999
XRef: ca\.environment|sci\.environment

Excellent. I'll try that. Thanks!

Didn't work with slrn. :-(

There's a patch you can add to slrn, that enables persistent
scoring. You can then put this in your score file:

[*]
Persistent Score::= -9999
From: [email hidden]
Score::= -9999
Subject: Mike Vander?man

(The second score is to kill people talking about him, and make sure you
catch the common spelling mistakes).

The first score means that Slrn will now take care of dynamically killing
any thread in which he participates. This is the first MV thread I've seen
in a year, I honestly didn't know if he was still posting or not.

The patch is here:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~thunder7

You may have to install gnu gdbm to get it to work.

--
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