[OT] Hives

To my knowledge, I've never been allergic to anything in my life, but
one night, about 5 years ago, I woke with a burning sensation in my
palms and the soles of my feet. I felt whoozy when I got out of bed and
walked into the bathroom. When I looked in the mirror, I was covered
from head to foot with hives. There were huge red welts everywhere and
I felt very light headed. When I started to feel a little itching and
swelling in my throat I decided to call the dr. who told me to get to
the emergency room immediately.

By the time I got dressed, the throat swelling and lightheadedness went
away, so I skipped the ER and went back to bed. By the next morning the
hives were completely gone.

I never figured out what I was reacting to. I wondered if I had been
bitten by a bug of some kind, but never even found a sting mark. I've
never had hives again.

Pennyaline said:

Gabby said:

Pennyaline said:

Allergies and sensitivities don't spring from a vacuum. They are immune
system reactions. They are caused by repeated exposure, in every case.

Or a single exposure in some cases, evidenced by my daughter's allergy
to milk.

Allergic reactions NEVER happen on the first, single exposure.
Sensitization happens once the body has manufactured antibodies
against a substance, and this is not an immediate event. When the
antibodies are ready and in circulation and the person is exposed to
the substance (allergen) again, the allergen/antibody conflict
triggers, the whole immune system kicks on, the inflammatory response
begins and the symptoms of allergic reaction manifest themselves.

What most people call "milk allergy" is not an allergic reaction at
all. In the case of milk, it is generally an enzyme deficiency that
causes the problems. If your daughter experiences the typical
prostrating *gastrointestinal* symptoms after ingesting cows milk,
enzyme deficiency is the culprit.

She could have had a reaction to something in the milk that is not an
actual chemical component of cows milk, something that she *had* been
exposed to before in another form or product, and that would have been
a true allergic reaction. But it is not a "milk allergy," as she will
react to it wherever she encounters it.

I wonder if you might know something about my allergy.

I can drink alcohol, no problems. And I can eat crustaceans - crabs,
prawns, lobsters (I am told that the normal allergy is to the iodine
content). But the two together, and it only takes a minute quantity of
alcohol in a sauce, for example, cause prolonged vomiting. I've only had
three episodes in my life, each worse than the last, and if it ever
happens again I don't doubt I'd be hospitalised.

I know of somebody who died of this, in hospital, when his heart gave
out under the strain of three days of vomiting. As a result, I
scrupulously avoid seafood - actually, I think if I accidentally ate a
prawn I'd throw up for purely psychological reasons. At yum chas it's
possible to to inadvertently consume prawn meat, but there's no danger
of alcohol having been used in the cooking and I avoid alcohol for 24
hours after a yum cha to be on the safe side.

I am also scared of other sorts of seafood like oysters, which may be
unnecessary but I'm not willing to try an empirical test. If I knew
exactly what was going on it would help, but it's beyond the GP's
expertise. Have you any suggestions?

Christine

Gabby said:

Pennyaline said:

Gabby said:

> Allergies and sensitivities don't spring from a vacuum. They are immune
> system reactions. They are caused by repeated exposure, in every case.
Or a single exposure in some cases, evidenced by my daughter's allergy
to milk.

Allergic reactions NEVER happen on the first, single exposure.
Sensitization happens once the body has manufactured antibodies against
a substance, and this is not an immediate event. When the antibodies are
ready and in circulation and the person is exposed to the substance
(allergen) again, the allergen/antibody conflict triggers, the whole
immune system kicks on, the inflammatory response begins and the
symptoms of allergic reaction manifest themselves.

What most people call "milk allergy" is not an allergic reaction at all.
In the case of milk, it is generally an enzyme deficiency that causes
the problems. If your daughter experiences the typical prostrating
*gastrointestinal* symptoms after ingesting cows milk, enzyme deficiency
is the culprit.

She could have had a reaction to something in the milk that is not an
actual chemical component of cows milk, something that she *had* been
exposed to before in another form or product, and that would have been a
true allergic reaction. But it is not a "milk allergy," as she will
react to it wherever she encounters it.

My daughter had one exposure to milk -- the night she was born. 8
months later, she broke out in hives on her second contact with milk
(on her skin, not in her stomach). She is still, 25 years later,
severely ALLERGIC to milk.

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

Old Mother Ashby said:

Pennyaline said:

Gabby said:

Pennyaline wrote:

> Allergies and sensitivities don't spring from a vacuum. They are immune
> system reactions. They are caused by repeated exposure, in every case.

Or a single exposure in some cases, evidenced by my daughter's allergy
to milk.

Allergic reactions NEVER happen on the first, single exposure.
Sensitization happens once the body has manufactured antibodies
against a substance, and this is not an immediate event. When the
antibodies are ready and in circulation and the person is exposed to
the substance (allergen) again, the allergen/antibody conflict
triggers, the whole immune system kicks on, the inflammatory response
begins and the symptoms of allergic reaction manifest themselves.

What most people call "milk allergy" is not an allergic reaction at
all. In the case of milk, it is generally an enzyme deficiency that
causes the problems. If your daughter experiences the typical
prostrating *gastrointestinal* symptoms after ingesting cows milk,
enzyme deficiency is the culprit.

She could have had a reaction to something in the milk that is not an
actual chemical component of cows milk, something that she *had* been
exposed to before in another form or product, and that would have been
a true allergic reaction. But it is not a "milk allergy," as she will
react to it wherever she encounters it.

I wonder if you might know something about my allergy.

I can drink alcohol, no problems. And I can eat crustaceans - crabs,
prawns, lobsters (I am told that the normal allergy is to the iodine
content). But the two together, and it only takes a minute quantity of
alcohol in a sauce, for example, cause prolonged vomiting. I've only had
three episodes in my life, each worse than the last, and if it ever
happens again I don't doubt I'd be hospitalised.

I know of somebody who died of this, in hospital, when his heart gave
out under the strain of three days of vomiting. As a result, I
scrupulously avoid seafood - actually, I think if I accidentally ate a
prawn I'd throw up for purely psychological reasons. At yum chas it's
possible to to inadvertently consume prawn meat, but there's no danger
of alcohol having been used in the cooking and I avoid alcohol for 24
hours after a yum cha to be on the safe side.

I am also scared of other sorts of seafood like oysters, which may be
unnecessary but I'm not willing to try an empirical test. If I knew
exactly what was going on it would help, but it's beyond the GP's
expertise. Have you any suggestions?

It may not be an allergy at all. It may be a reaction to the chemical
compounds inherent in the combination, in the same way MSG can cause a
typical reaction.

I have no doubt that you would be hospitalized the next time you ingest
the combination, so I don't recommend the empirical trial either. I am
curious about one little thing, though: when you say "alcohol," do you
mean liquor or wine?

<sulfites, perhaps?>

Pennyaline said:

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

MY point was that a single exposure can be enough to trigger the
antibodies.

Gabby

(Denise in NH) said:

I felt very light headed. When I started to feel a little itching and
swelling in my throat...

I talked to my friend who gets hives every few years. He told me
one attack had his tongue swelling in his throat to the point he
almost couldn't breath. I'm thinking I got off cheap.

nb

Pennyaline said:

Old Mother Ashby said:

Pennyaline said:

Gabby wrote:

> Pennyaline wrote:
>
>> Allergies and sensitivities don't spring from a vacuum. They are
>> immune
>> system reactions. They are caused by repeated exposure, in every
>> case.
>
>
>
> Or a single exposure in some cases, evidenced by my daughter's allergy
> to milk.

Allergic reactions NEVER happen on the first, single exposure.
Sensitization happens once the body has manufactured antibodies
against a substance, and this is not an immediate event. When the
antibodies are ready and in circulation and the person is exposed to
the substance (allergen) again, the allergen/antibody conflict
triggers, the whole immune system kicks on, the inflammatory
response begins and the symptoms of allergic reaction manifest
themselves.

What most people call "milk allergy" is not an allergic reaction at
all. In the case of milk, it is generally an enzyme deficiency that
causes the problems. If your daughter experiences the typical
prostrating *gastrointestinal* symptoms after ingesting cows milk,
enzyme deficiency is the culprit.

She could have had a reaction to something in the milk that is not
an actual chemical component of cows milk, something that she *had*
been exposed to before in another form or product, and that would
have been a true allergic reaction. But it is not a "milk allergy,"
as she will react to it wherever she encounters it.

I wonder if you might know something about my allergy.

I can drink alcohol, no problems. And I can eat crustaceans - crabs,
prawns, lobsters (I am told that the normal allergy is to the iodine
content). But the two together, and it only takes a minute quantity
of alcohol in a sauce, for example, cause prolonged vomiting. I've
only had three episodes in my life, each worse than the last, and if
it ever happens again I don't doubt I'd be hospitalised.

I know of somebody who died of this, in hospital, when his heart gave
out under the strain of three days of vomiting. As a result, I
scrupulously avoid seafood - actually, I think if I accidentally ate
a prawn I'd throw up for purely psychological reasons. At yum chas
it's possible to to inadvertently consume prawn meat, but there's no
danger of alcohol having been used in the cooking and I avoid alcohol
for 24 hours after a yum cha to be on the safe side.

I am also scared of other sorts of seafood like oysters, which may be
unnecessary but I'm not willing to try an empirical test. If I knew
exactly what was going on it would help, but it's beyond the GP's
expertise. Have you any suggestions?

It may not be an allergy at all. It may be a reaction to the chemical
compounds inherent in the combination, in the same way MSG can cause a
typical reaction.

I have no doubt that you would be hospitalized the next time you
ingest the combination, so I don't recommend the empirical trial
either. I am curious about one little thing, though: when you say
"alcohol," do you mean liquor or wine?

<sulfites, perhaps?>

Both. On the first occasion in was gin in the punch, on the second it
was white wine and on the third it was kirsch in the dessert sauce. It
wasn't even my dessert, it was Derrick's; I just had a little taste and
as soon as I swallowed it I knew I'd made a big mistake. To make matters
worse somebody beat me to the loo, so there I was throwing up
spectacularly in the washbasin!

I dare say you're right that I shouldn't call it an allergy. It is
obviously some sort of chemical reaction. But you can see why I avoid
seafood as being much harder to ingest accidentally than alcohol.

Thanks for your comments.

Christine

notbob said:

(Denise in NH) said:

I felt very light headed. When I started to feel a little itching and
swelling in my throat...

I talked to my friend who gets hives every few years. He told me
one attack had his tongue swelling in his throat to the point he
almost couldn't breath. I'm thinking I got off cheap.

That's how it was for me after my first few bouts with shellfish
when I was a kid. I was the 8-year old that was always ordering
lobster until one day paramedics had to take me out of the
restaurant. I couldn't eat shellfish for almost 10 years after
that first round.

-sw

Christine Dabney said:

Take Benadryl.

And remember that Benedryl makes most people too drowsy to drive.

This thread reminds me of a similar one on another usenet group. The
original poster wrote in with some symptoms. The regulars talked it
over and concluded (concluded as much as regulars on usenet groups ever
agree on anything) that the op was having an allergic reaction and
suggested Benedryl. The op got back to us with an update.

She'd gone to the pharmacy, taken Benedryl right there, and gone to a
club meeting afterwards. She used some sort of expression like "swigged
it down" that indicated to me that she hadn't measured exactly. She
then described feeling worse at the club meeting, deciding to drive
herself to an emergency clinic, driving off the road on the way, being
unharmed, and going home.

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I
get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone
over there hated me. I was too outspoken.) I wondered how anyone could
be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them drowsy. The
warnings are all over the box! It was one thing that she thought so
little of endangering her own life, but once you get behind the wheel of
the car, you're endangering everyone else's too. Once I got it started,
someone else piped in with the information that she could have been
booked for driving under the influence.

I dropped out of the thread at that point, but I did start to wonder why
we'd all come down so hard on anyone driving drunk but have nothing but
sympathy for someone who was sick, on medication, but still in no
condition to drive. I realized that earlier in the thread many of us
had suggested Benedryl but none of us had put in the warning about
Benedryl and drowsiness. So I made it my personal mission to mention it
whenever it came up.

--Lia

Julia Altshuler said:

And remember that Benedryl makes most people too drowsy to drive.

Plus, if you have never taken it before, you could have a reaction to
*it*!

Quoted message said:

This thread reminds me of a similar one on another usenet group. The
original poster wrote in with some symptoms. The regulars talked it
over and concluded (concluded as much as regulars on usenet groups ever
agree on anything) that the op was having an allergic reaction and
suggested Benedryl. The op got back to us with an update.

She'd gone to the pharmacy, taken Benedryl right there, and gone to a
club meeting afterwards. She used some sort of expression like "swigged
it down" that indicated to me that she hadn't measured exactly. She
then described feeling worse at the club meeting, deciding to drive
herself to an emergency clinic, driving off the road on the way, being
unharmed, and going home.

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I
get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone
over there hated me. I was too outspoken.)

Oh hell, people all over Usenet hate me for being too outspoken. Too
bad! I think some people think ngs should be
alt.whatever.blowsugarandsunshineoutyerass.

Quoted message said:

I wondered how anyone could
be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them drowsy. The
warnings are all over the box! It was one thing that she thought so
little of endangering her own life, but once you get behind the wheel of
the car, you're endangering everyone else's too. Once I got it started,
someone else piped in with the information that she could have been
booked for driving under the influence.

What she did was just dumb. If you don't measure meds, you can kill
yourself.

Quoted message said:

I dropped out of the thread at that point, but I did start to wonder why
we'd all come down so hard on anyone driving drunk but have nothing but
sympathy for someone who was sick, on medication, but still in no
condition to drive. I realized that earlier in the thread many of us
had suggested Benedryl but none of us had put in the warning about
Benedryl and drowsiness. So I made it my personal mission to mention it
whenever it came up.

It's sort of elementary, really....you'd think you shouldn't have to.
-L.

Julia Altshuler said:

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I
get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone
over there hated me. I was too outspoken.) I wondered how anyone could
be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them drowsy.

Benedryl which is Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, is also sold as
a sleep aid and is the active ingredient in most anything with
"PM" or "Night-time" in the name or description.

Ironically, the store branded/generic Benedryl almost always
costs less when sold as a sleep aid than the same dosage/count
box labeled for allergies. So I buy the sleep aid for allergies.

-sw

Julia Altshuler said:

Christine Dabney said:

Take Benadryl.

And remember that Benedryl makes most people too drowsy to drive.

This thread reminds me of a similar one on another usenet group. The
original poster wrote in with some symptoms. The regulars talked it
over and concluded (concluded as much as regulars on usenet groups ever
agree on anything) that the op was having an allergic reaction and
suggested Benedryl. The op got back to us with an update.

She'd gone to the pharmacy, taken Benedryl right there, and gone to a
club meeting afterwards. She used some sort of expression like "swigged
it down" that indicated to me that she hadn't measured exactly. She
then described feeling worse at the club meeting, deciding to drive
herself to an emergency clinic, driving off the road on the way, being
unharmed, and going home.

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I
get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone
over there hated me. I was too outspoken.) I wondered how anyone could
be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them drowsy. The
warnings are all over the box! It was one thing that she thought so
little of endangering her own life, but once you get behind the wheel of
the car, you're endangering everyone else's too.

Benedryl doesn't make me drowsy, but I'm an exception. Actifed OTOH
knocks me out.
I agree that people should know that /all/ antihistamines make you
drowsy until you know otherwise about that particular one. Even
Claritin and whatever others claim they are non-drowsy formulas -- until
you've taken it once or twice, assume it will put you to sleep.

But people are stupid. Even you and I are stupid occasionally; it's
part of being human. You don't have to have any sympathy, but cut her a
little slack. It's better for your blood pressure.

Best regards,
Bob

"Julia Altshuler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Christine Dabney said:

Take Benadryl.

And remember that Benedryl makes most people too drowsy to drive.

This thread reminds me of a similar one on another usenet group. The original
poster wrote in with some symptoms. The regulars talked it over and concluded
(concluded as much as regulars on usenet groups ever agree on anything) that the op
was having an allergic reaction and suggested Benedryl. The op got back to us with
an update.

She'd gone to the pharmacy, taken Benedryl right there, and gone to a club meeting
afterwards. She used some sort of expression like "swigged it down" that indicated
to me that she hadn't measured exactly. She then described feeling worse at the
club meeting, deciding to drive herself to an emergency clinic, driving off the
road on the way, being unharmed, and going home.

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My reaction was a
little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I get amused that people on
this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone over there hated me. I was too
outspoken.) I wondered how anyone could be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl
would make them drowsy. The warnings are all over the box! It was one thing that
she thought so little of endangering her own life, but once you get behind the
wheel of the car, you're endangering everyone else's too. Once I got it started,
someone else piped in with the information that she could have been booked for
driving under the influence.

I dropped out of the thread at that point, but I did start to wonder why we'd all
come down so hard on anyone driving drunk but have nothing but sympathy for someone
who was sick, on medication, but still in no condition to drive. I realized that
earlier in the thread many of us had suggested Benedryl but none of us had put in
the warning about Benedryl and drowsiness. So I made it my personal mission to
mention it whenever it came up.

--Lia

Driving aspect aside...it's just plain *stupid* to take any medicine without using
proper dosage. People always think just because it's OTC, it's harmless...which is
hardly the case.

kimberly

"Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Julia Altshuler said:

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I
get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone
over there hated me. I was too outspoken.) I wondered how anyone could
be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them drowsy.

Benedryl which is Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, is also sold as
a sleep aid and is the active ingredient in most anything with
"PM" or "Night-time" in the name or description.

Ironically, the store branded/generic Benedryl almost always
costs less when sold as a sleep aid than the same dosage/count
box labeled for allergies. So I buy the sleep aid for allergies.

-sw

Does the brand of sleep aid you buy have anything else added besides
Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride? (Not including xantham gum and all that
stuff.)
I've never tried a sleeping pill, but I did use Benedryl a few months back
when I had the severe reaction to antibiotics. I suppose if I had constant
allergies, I'd try something else than expensive Benedryl -- I know there
are generics, but I'm not a generics "kind of person" -- tee hee.

I could add that 'MMVH' or something-or-other which means 'to each his own,'
or something like that, but I've forgotten it already.
I do know, PAW -- isn't that "Parents are Watching"?

Dee Dee

Dee Randall said:

"Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Julia Altshuler said:

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I
get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone
over there hated me. I was too outspoken.) I wondered how anyone could
be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them drowsy.

Benedryl which is Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, is also sold as
a sleep aid and is the active ingredient in most anything with
"PM" or "Night-time" in the name or description.

Ironically, the store branded/generic Benedryl almost always
costs less when sold as a sleep aid than the same dosage/count
box labeled for allergies. So I buy the sleep aid for allergies.

-sw

Does the brand of sleep aid you buy have anything else added besides
Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride? (Not including xantham gum and all that
stuff.)

Nope. Just diphenhydramine HCL as the active ingredient. AKA
Benedryl.

Quoted message said:

I've never tried a sleeping pill, but I did use Benedryl a few months back
when I had the severe reaction to antibiotics. I suppose if I had constant
allergies, I'd try something else than expensive Benedryl -- I know there
are generics, but I'm not a generics "kind of person" -- tee hee.

The generic diphenhydramine HCL is half the price of Benedryl
Brand. Some brands are the *exact* same capsule that you find in
a box/bottle of benedryl.

You spend your money how you want, but I'll buy the generics :-)
It's not like drug companies aren't making enough money with all
their scams.

Quoted message said:

I could add that 'MMVH' or something-or-other which means 'to each his own,'
or something like that, but I've forgotten it already.

YMMV - Your mileage may vary, of course.

-sw

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Quoted message said:

Dee Randall said:

"Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Sun, 07 May 2006 08:48:10 -0400, Julia Altshuler wrote:

> The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
> reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where I
> get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite. Everyone
> over there hated me. I was too outspoken.) I wondered how anyone
> could
> be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them drowsy.

Benedryl which is Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, is also sold as
a sleep aid and is the active ingredient in most anything with
"PM" or "Night-time" in the name or description.

Ironically, the store branded/generic Benedryl almost always
costs less when sold as a sleep aid than the same dosage/count
box labeled for allergies. So I buy the sleep aid for allergies.

-sw

Does the brand of sleep aid you buy have anything else added besides
Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride? (Not including xantham gum and all that
stuff.)

Nope. Just diphenhydramine HCL as the active ingredient. AKA
Benedryl.

Quoted message said:

I've never tried a sleeping pill, but I did use Benedryl a few months
back
when I had the severe reaction to antibiotics. I suppose if I had
constant
allergies, I'd try something else than expensive Benedryl -- I know there
are generics, but I'm not a generics "kind of person" -- tee hee.

The generic diphenhydramine HCL is half the price of Benedryl
Brand. Some brands are the *exact* same capsule that you find in
a box/bottle of benedryl.

You spend your money how you want, but I'll buy the generics :-)
It's not like drug companies aren't making enough money with all
their scams.

Well, I'll bee! I think if I took sleeping pills, I would take the generic
Benedryl.
But, it might be hard to judge whether they are scamming generics, as well
as skamming the brand name.
Thanks for your info.
Dee Dee

zxcvbob said:

Julia Altshuler said:

Christine Dabney said:

Take Benadryl.

And remember that Benedryl makes most people too drowsy to drive.

This thread reminds me of a similar one on another usenet group. The
original poster wrote in with some symptoms. The regulars talked it
over and concluded (concluded as much as regulars on usenet groups
ever agree on anything) that the op was having an allergic reaction
and suggested Benedryl. The op got back to us with an update.

She'd gone to the pharmacy, taken Benedryl right there, and gone to a
club meeting afterwards. She used some sort of expression like
"swigged it down" that indicated to me that she hadn't measured
exactly. She then described feeling worse at the club meeting,
deciding to drive herself to an emergency clinic, driving off the road
on the way, being unharmed, and going home.

The rest of the regulars reading this report expressed sympathy. My
reaction was a little different. I was outraged. (And this is where
I get amused that people on this usenet group think I'm polite.
Everyone over there hated me. I was too outspoken.) I wondered how
anyone could be so stupid as to not know that Benedryl would make them
drowsy. The warnings are all over the box! It was one thing that she
thought so little of endangering her own life, but once you get behind
the wheel of the car, you're endangering everyone else's too.

Benedryl doesn't make me drowsy, but I'm an exception. Actifed OTOH
knocks me out.

I have allergies in the spring and I used to get many many colds when I
was in high school. Actifed used to be formulatd differently, I think,
because it was the only thing that would knock out the sinus pressure,
but sometimes I'd fall asleep during 2nd period.

Quoted message said:

I agree that people should know that /all/ antihistamines make you
drowsy until you know otherwise about that particular one. Even
Claritin and whatever others claim they are non-drowsy formulas -- until
you've taken it once or twice, assume it will put you to sleep.

But people are stupid. Even you and I are stupid occasionally; it's
part of being human. You don't have to have any sympathy, but cut her a
little slack. It's better for your blood pressure.

Best regards,
Bob

--

saerah

http://anisaerah.cmayes.net/blog/

"This morning, I woke up
Feeling brand new and I jumped up
Feeling my highs, and my lows
In my soul, and my goals
Just to stop smokin, and stop drinkin
And I've been thinkin - I've got my reasons
Just to get by, just to get by" -Talib Kweli

notbob said:

Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:

Pennyaline <[email hidden]>
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Allergies and sensitivities don't spring from a vacuum. They are
immune system reactions. They are caused by repeated exposure, in
every case.

Exactly what my doctor and the dermatologist told me.

Holy [censored]! I'm backing off ice cream and beer today! 😉

nb

Maybe the beer is the problem? Too much beer leads to liver problems
and one of the symptoms is a rash. You might want to get your liver
functions tested. Beer can cause allergic reactions as well but if you
drink enough I doubt you would care.

Nope said:

notbob said:

Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:

Pennyaline <[email hidden]>
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>Allergies and sensitivities don't spring from a vacuum. They are
>immune system reactions. They are caused by repeated exposure, in
>every case.

Exactly what my doctor and the dermatologist told me.

Holy [censored]! I'm backing off ice cream and beer today! 😉

nb

Maybe the beer is the problem? Too much beer leads to liver problems
and one of the symptoms is a rash.

That's a good tidbit of information. Thanks

Quoted message said:

You might want to get your liver functions tested.

Never a bad idea. I request it occasionally, because not only do I
drink - I know an entire family that had fatal liver problems and they
were extremely light to moderate drinkers.

Quoted message said:

Beer can cause allergic reactions as well but if you
drink enough I doubt you would care.

Allergic reaction, why? Is it the brewers yeast?
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sf said:

Allergic reaction, why? Is it the brewers yeast?

I've heard this before, and may have experienced this problem. About
10 yrs ago, I started noticing every time I had a couple beers in the
evening, I would wake up the next morning feeling full and bloated.
No rashes or anything so extreme, just a full uncomfortable feeling,
like I had stomach gas, which would last throughout the morning. It
became marginally worse over time. A friend said he'd heard of people
developing an allergy to beer yeasts. I finally quite drinking beer.
That's when I began my wine period. I didn't drink beer for almost 3
yrs. Finally, I tried some beer again and experienced no probs and I
haven't since. I had some beer last weekend. No rashes or other ill
effects. I'm sure it was the crab.

nb