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  1. Just zis Guy said:


    Automatically? Who knows. I do look ahead, see the lights, take my
    foot off the loud pedal and cover the brake.

    That's insufficient for speeds above 35mph as the Government has
    admitted but they have decided instead to lengthen the double red phase
    to let the cars that cannot stop go through the red light hopefully safely.

    Tony

  2. Just zis Guy said:

    On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:12:11 +0000, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am always amused when people come to a screeching halt in the middle
    of the junction because the light ahead turns red. You'd almost think
    that people didn't read the Highway Code...

    Quoted message said:

    ....and you haven't read about the dilemma zone and the Government
    statements on the length of the amber phase relative to the stopping
    distance.

    I have indeed. I modify my behaviour by slowing down and covering the
    brake as I approach the lights, as stated above. Even so, once you
    have crossed the line you are supposed to clear the junction.

    Wish someone'd told the guy in front of the guy in front of me
    yesterday, as I drove down Brixton Hill. We enter the junction with the
    lights on green. The side roads are staggered so it's a slightly longer
    junction than normal. Just as I pass, the lights go amber - I'm too
    close to be able to stop without poking way out into the junction. What
    does this guy do? puts on the anchors, cos the lights at the far side of
    the junction are amber-going-red. Three cars now sat in middle of
    junction...

    I couldn't believe my eyes.

    We waited till the pedestrians had finished crossing, he was still
    sitting there, lights were green for the other way, I gave up and let
    rip with the horn, we moved off to clear the junction shortly thereafter.

    The car was a UK plate, but I suppose that's no indication that the
    driver was from the UK - but even so...

    --

    Velvet

  3. Velvet said:

    The car was a UK plate, but I suppose that's no indication that the
    driver was from the UK - but even so...

    When I first drove in Scotland I was not familiar with the habit of
    repeating traffic lights at the other side of a junction. I haven't gone
    as far as stopping in the middle of a junction, but there were a number of
    locations where it was less obvious and I have stopped because the second
    set og lights turned amber just when I was getting there.

    Roos

  4. Roos Eisma said:
    Velvet said:

    The car was a UK plate, but I suppose that's no indication that the
    driver was from the UK - but even so...

    When I first drove in Scotland I was not familiar with the habit of
    repeating traffic lights at the other side of a junction. I haven't
    gone as far as stopping in the middle of a junction, but there were a
    number of locations where it was less obvious and I have stopped
    because the second set og lights turned amber just when I was getting
    there.

    There's one particular junction on my way home where numpties are forever
    turning left, seeing the repeater lights on red for the waiting traffic and
    stopping dead. No amount of horn application will shift them.

    OTOH, there's a set on the way in which for eight years I assumed to be
    repeater lights, but actually turned out to be for a separate pedestrian
    crossing just past the junction.

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    World Domination?
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  5. On 23/12/04 3:44 pm, in article [email hidden],

    Roos Eisma said:
    Velvet said:

    The car was a UK plate, but I suppose that's no indication that the
    driver was from the UK - but even so...

    When I first drove in Scotland I was not familiar with the habit of
    repeating traffic lights at the other side of a junction. I haven't gone
    as far as stopping in the middle of a junction, but there were a number of
    locations where it was less obvious and I have stopped because the second
    set og lights turned amber just when I was getting there.

    And then to confuse matters, they completely screwed up the Loons Road
    junction when they re aligned it. Instead of being one set of traffic lights
    it now has pedestrian crossings on four arms of the crossroads. One of the
    arms is one way (into th ecrossing). These four sets of lights sort of work
    together but if the far one goes red then you have to stop at the stop line
    to get out of the junction. Extremely confusing and I am guilty of going
    through more than one red light there when exiting the junction before I
    realised that they had turned one junction into goodness knows how many.

    ...d

  6. Tony Raven said:

    That's insufficient for speeds above 35mph as the Government has
    admitted but they have decided instead to lengthen the double red phase
    to let the cars that cannot stop go through the red light hopefully safely.

    Tony


    You don't know the segensworth roundabout do you? There the phasing is
    so short as one part goes red the next is going green, and most regulars
    wait several seconds before moving as they know the jumpers will keep
    coming for that long....

  7. On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:46:32 GMT, Badger <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    You don't know the segensworth roundabout do you? There the phasing is
    so short as one part goes red the next is going green, and most regulars
    wait several seconds before moving as they know the jumpers will keep
    coming for that long....

    I assume you mean the one on the A27 that feeds Whiteley and the M27.
    I used to commute by bike across that roundabout. I hated it, but not
    as much as the alternative route down the A32. That was really
    frightening.

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