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  1. Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since there
    were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread dressing
    this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific Oysters that
    my Kroger store had trucked in.

    Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached. Do you ever face them in
    an oyster bar? You'd need a knife and fork.

    We cut 'em up and plopped them in our dressing and they were great, but
    I'm sill amazed by the size, . . and the configuration.

    These were called Willapoints, I believe; if they are what West
    Coasters are used to, they must think puny little Gulf Oysters are a
    waste of good shell. As I recall those flippers and do-dads did sort
    of disappear in the dressing. Maybe Gulf oysters retain a little more
    integrity.

  2. Stark said:

    Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since
    there were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread
    dressing this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific
    Oysters that my Kroger store had trucked in.

    Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached. Do you ever face them
    in an oyster bar? You'd need a knife and fork.

    We cut 'em up and plopped them in our dressing and they were great,
    but I'm sill amazed by the size, . . and the configuration.

    These were called Willapoints, I believe; if they are what West
    Coasters are used to, they must think puny little Gulf Oysters are a
    waste of good shell. As I recall those flippers and do-dads did sort
    of disappear in the dressing. Maybe Gulf oysters retain a little more
    integrity.

    LOL They sound, um, huge! Here's a pic of that plated dinner with the
    chicken & boudin stuffing:

    http://community.webshots.com/photo/74365720/511066122FOmVPV

    Frankly, I enjoyed the stuffing more than I did the chicken. I guess I just
    don't like poultry much.

    Jill

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, jmcquown

    Quoted message said:

    LOL They sound, um, huge! Here's a pic of that plated dinner with the
    chicken & boudin stuffing:

    http://community.webshots.com/photo/74365720/511066122FOmVPV

    Frankly, I enjoyed the stuffing more than I did the chicken. I guess I just
    don't like poultry much.

    Jill


    They were, like some out of Jules Verne.

    Your plate looks delish, even the brussels sprouts. Hmmm. I'm thinking
    a little Boudin might temper that brussels sprouts wha-wha. I've used
    butter and bacon to do it.

    Hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving. We had our son over, but that's like
    flying solo. He's a yeap-nope kinda of guy whose very informative wife
    had to tend to her inlaws.

  4. "Stark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    : Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since there
    : were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread dressing
    : this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific Oysters that
    : my Kroger store had trucked in.
    :
    : Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    : sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached. Do you ever face them in
    : an oyster bar? You'd need a knife and fork.
    :
    : We cut 'em up and plopped them in our dressing and they were great, but
    : I'm sill amazed by the size, . . and the configuration.
    :
    : These were called Willapoints, I believe; if they are what West
    : Coasters are used to, they must think puny little Gulf Oysters are a
    : waste of good shell. As I recall those flippers and do-dads did sort
    : of disappear in the dressing. Maybe Gulf oysters retain a little more
    : integrity.

    Reminds me of my first meeting with those suckers, in 1973. Driving down I5
    California we stopped for dinner at a cute restaurant whose menu specified you
    could have oysters anyway you wanted. Now I am from New Zealand where Bluff
    Oysters are considered the world's best, closely rivalled by Sydney, who think
    their Rock Oysters are better! Most seafood restaurants here would offer those as
    a dozen raw as an appetiser, So I asked, in 1973, for half a dozen raw
    Willapoints. The waitress blanched and said no-one eats a half dozen and seemed
    also to indicate that no-one ate them raw. I insisted I was a "real Southern Man"
    and we eat dozens of oysters raw at a sitting. She still said I couldn't do it
    and she would only serve me one. By this time I was suspicious! My SO was egging
    me on to try it, so with great ceremony the waitress brought a single one of these
    creatures out on a plate. Its got bigger over the years of telling the story, but
    I swear this thing stretched from one side of the plate to the other. I manfully
    got it down and thanked the waitress profusely for not allowing me more!!

    Frenchy

  5. And now you know why oysters were an aquired taste for me!

    ````````````````````````

    Stark said:

    Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since there
    were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread dressing
    this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific Oysters that
    my Kroger store had trucked in.

    Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached. Do you ever face them in
    an oyster bar? You'd need a knife and fork.

    We cut 'em up and plopped them in our dressing and they were great, but
    I'm sill amazed by the size, . . and the configuration.

    These were called Willapoints, I believe; if they are what West
    Coasters are used to, they must think puny little Gulf Oysters are a
    waste of good shell. As I recall those flippers and do-dads did sort
    of disappear in the dressing. Maybe Gulf oysters retain a little more
    integrity.

    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

  6. The "Willapoints" you reference are I expect from Willapay Bay in SW
    Washington state and are for the most part harvested within a mile or so
    of where I'm sitting right now. They are fantastic, fresh and clean
    tasting. I've had oysters from a lot of different areas and they all
    seem to have a distinct taste with some of the better ones coming from
    Morro Bay and Tamales Bay in CA. Anyway, having eaten my share over the
    years I've never seen one with flippers and do-dads attached. Sounds an
    awful lot like squid to me, which are also delicious!

    Frenchy said:

    "Stark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    : Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since there
    : were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread dressing
    : this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific Oysters that
    : my Kroger store had trucked in.
    :
    : Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    : sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached. Do you ever face them in
    : an oyster bar? You'd need a knife and fork.
    :
    : We cut 'em up and plopped them in our dressing and they were great, but
    : I'm sill amazed by the size, . . and the configuration.
    :
    : These were called Willapoints, I believe; if they are what West
    : Coasters are used to, they must think puny little Gulf Oysters are a
    : waste of good shell. As I recall those flippers and do-dads did sort
    : of disappear in the dressing. Maybe Gulf oysters retain a little more
    : integrity.

    Reminds me of my first meeting with those suckers, in 1973. Driving down I5
    California we stopped for dinner at a cute restaurant whose menu specified you
    could have oysters anyway you wanted. Now I am from New Zealand where Bluff
    Oysters are considered the world's best, closely rivalled by Sydney, who think
    their Rock Oysters are better! Most seafood restaurants here would offer those as
    a dozen raw as an appetiser, So I asked, in 1973, for half a dozen raw
    Willapoints. The waitress blanched and said no-one eats a half dozen and seemed
    also to indicate that no-one ate them raw. I insisted I was a "real Southern Man"
    and we eat dozens of oysters raw at a sitting. She still said I couldn't do it
    and she would only serve me one. By this time I was suspicious! My SO was egging
    me on to try it, so with great ceremony the waitress brought a single one of these
    creatures out on a plate. Its got bigger over the years of telling the story, but
    I swear this thing stretched from one side of the plate to the other. I manfully
    got it down and thanked the waitress profusely for not allowing me more!!

    Frenchy

  7. "Stark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since there
    were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread dressing
    this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific Oysters that
    my Kroger store had trucked in.

    Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached. Do you ever face them in
    an oyster bar? You'd need a knife and fork.

    Mmmmmm. Speaking of which, here is a good preparation....

    Astoria Oregon Oyster Loaf

    2 Jars oysters
    1 loaf crusty french bread, hollowed so the crust and bread are about 1.5
    inches thick
    1 cube butter
    Lemons
    Olive oil
    Milk
    Flour
    Salt and pepper

    put the oysters and their liquor into a large sauce pan. Bring them to a
    gentle simmer and turn them off, letting them sit a few minutes. Drain and
    discard liquid.

    Meanwhile, melt 3/4 of the butter and add some lemon juice. Paint the inside
    of the bread loaf and place it into a medium-low oven to get toasty warm.
    Don't let it get too hard!

    Heat the rest of the butter and a few tablespoons of oil in a frying pan
    over medium heat.
    Dip the oysters in milk and then seasoned flour, and fry them in a few
    batches until they are golden brown.

    HEap the oysters into the bread loaf and slice the loaf with a serrated
    knife into 3 or 4-inch slices. Serve the loaf on plates. People don't really
    eat this as a sandwich, more like pieces of loaf with bits of oyster. Man
    it's great!!!!!

  8. "rox formerly rmg" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Astoria Oregon Oyster Loaf

    I wouldn't eat an oyster for less than a thousand dollars, but the mention
    of Astoria brings back memories. There are few places as pretty as Astoria,
    OR.

    Charlie
    OBFOOD: Here is a great recipe from a famed Sandy Eggo restaurant:

    HARBOR HOUSE LOBSTER THERMIDOR

    Recipe by: Harbor House Restaurant, San Diego

    6 medium frozen lobster tails, thawed
    1.5 cups sherry, plus more if needed
    1/2 cup butter
    1 cup minced onion
    1/2 cup chopped mushrooms
    pinch dry mustard
    pinch rosemary
    pinch thyme
    pinch nutmeg
    pinch mace
    1/2 cup flour
    2 cups milk
    salt
    pepper
    3 drops yellow food coloring
    Hollandaise sauce
    grated Parmesan cheese
    paprika

    Cook lobster tails in boiling, salted water 5 to 10 minutes. Drain and
    remove meat, keeping shells intact. Dice lobster meat and place in skillet.
    Add just enough sherry to barely cover and simmer about 15 minutes.

    Meanwhile, melt butter in a saucepan. Add onions, mushrooms, mustard,
    rosemary, thyme, nutmeg and mace. Cook until onions are tender but not
    browned. Stir in flour until smooth. Gradually add milk and cook and stir
    until thickened. Season sauce to taste with salt and pepper and stir in food
    coloring. Add lobster meat and enough more sherry to make sauce the
    consistency of medium sauce.

    Spoon lobster into cleaned lobster shells. Top with a spoonful of
    Hollandaise sauce, sprinkle with cheese then paprika. Bake at 400F about 15
    minutes. Makes 6 servings.

  9. On Fri 25 Nov 2005 06:34:19p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Charles
    Gifford?

    Quoted message said:


    "rox formerly rmg" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Astoria Oregon Oyster Loaf

    I wouldn't eat an oyster for less than a thousand dollars, but the
    mention of Astoria brings back memories. There are few places as pretty
    as Astoria, OR.

    Charlie
    OBFOOD: Here is a great recipe from a famed Sandy Eggo restaurant:

    HARBOR HOUSE LOBSTER THERMIDOR

    Recipe by: Harbor House Restaurant, San Diego

    6 medium frozen lobster tails, thawed
    1.5 cups sherry, plus more if needed
    1/2 cup butter
    1 cup minced onion
    1/2 cup chopped mushrooms
    pinch dry mustard
    pinch rosemary
    pinch thyme
    pinch nutmeg
    pinch mace
    1/2 cup flour
    2 cups milk
    salt
    pepper
    3 drops yellow food coloring
    Hollandaise sauce
    grated Parmesan cheese
    paprika

    Cook lobster tails in boiling, salted water 5 to 10 minutes. Drain and
    remove meat, keeping shells intact. Dice lobster meat and place in
    skillet. Add just enough sherry to barely cover and simmer about 15
    minutes.

    Meanwhile, melt butter in a saucepan. Add onions, mushrooms, mustard,
    rosemary, thyme, nutmeg and mace. Cook until onions are tender but not
    browned. Stir in flour until smooth. Gradually add milk and cook and
    stir until thickened. Season sauce to taste with salt and pepper and
    stir in food coloring. Add lobster meat and enough more sherry to make
    sauce the consistency of medium sauce.

    Spoon lobster into cleaned lobster shells. Top with a spoonful of
    Hollandaise sauce, sprinkle with cheese then paprika. Bake at 400F about
    15 minutes. Makes 6 servings.

    I love lobster thermidor. I tasted it for the first time on the night of
    my highschool senior prom. Our "very sophisticated" party of six went to a
    very elegant restaurant before going to the dance. :-) It was a memorable
    evening.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________________________

    A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

  10. Stark wrote on 11/25/2005:

    Quoted message said:

    Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since there
    were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread dressing
    this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific Oysters that
    my Kroger store had trucked in.

    Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached.

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    These were called Willapoints, I believe; if they are what West
    Coasters are used to, they must think puny little Gulf Oysters are a
    waste of good shell. As I recall those flippers and do-dads did sort
    of disappear in the dressing. Maybe Gulf oysters retain a little more
    integrity.

    Happily, not all west coast oysters are that large.

  11. Stark said:

    Okay, I don't get around much--in the kitchen or elsewhere. Since there
    were no Gulf oysters--all I've ever known--for our cornbread dressing
    this year, I picked up a couple of half pints of Pacific Oysters that
    my Kroger store had trucked in.

    Ye Gods! These thangs were huge, about three in a half pint, with all
    sorts of flippers and do-dads still attached. Do you ever face them in
    an oyster bar? You'd need a knife and fork.

    We cut 'em up and plopped them in our dressing and they were great, but
    I'm sill amazed by the size, . . and the configuration.

    These were called Willapoints, I believe; if they are what West
    Coasters are used to, they must think puny little Gulf Oysters are a
    waste of good shell. As I recall those flippers and do-dads did sort
    of disappear in the dressing. Maybe Gulf oysters retain a little more
    integrity.

    Reminds me of this passage from _Big Flavors of the Hot Sun_:

    "Being a fan of huevos rancheros, I'm no stranger to the combination of
    chiles and eggs, but throw in oysters and I had my doubts. When I actually
    encountered this dish in Singapore, though, it turned out to be one of my
    favorites."

    "There we were, on our first night in Singapore, suffering from jet lag
    but nevertheless busily checking out the street food scene. It was 2:00 A.M.
    and we were in the heart of Newton Circus, one of the city's organized
    collections of street food vendors that reflect the incredible cultural
    diversity of Singapore. We were watching a guy toss a couple of raw eggs
    into a wok smoking hot with oil, followed by some giant raw oysters, soy
    sauce, ginger, herbs, and an extra-large handful of chopped chiles to
    torture the tourists. Before I could say, "I've changed my mind," this
    chile-laden egg-oyster thing was looking up at me from a plate. This dish
    may not sound great, but that's nothing compared to the way it looked, and
    my buddy was cracking up as I took my first bite. The ginger and herbs were
    the first things I tasted, the consistency was a little like brains, with a
    distinct, partially cooked oyster flavor, and then whammo! the chiles kicked
    in. The oysters were meaty and delicious, and with the eggs to bind them
    together a bit and the power of the chiles--well, I lost my jet leg and
    became quite a fan of this common street food. It goes to show, once again,
    that being adventurous pays off, and you should never judge anything until
    you have actually tasted it."

    Since reading that, I've made facsimiles of that dish and enjoyed them
    greatly -- and note that it was made with "giant raw oysters".

    Bob

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