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  1. I posted here a few months back after I had been diagnosed with bicuspid
    aortic valve and chronotropic incompetence.
    The CI was causing the biggest problem with my cycle racing as it
    reduced my aerobic power output to 80%. After weeks of poking, prodding
    and scanning, my cardiologist suspected a form of carditis. Over the
    past month or so I have seen a slow recovery to about 90% of my prior
    fitness and an increase in my heart rate while working out. I'm
    obviously delighted as there was a real possibility of no recovery.
    Anyone know of any other anecdotal incidences like this.

    Phil Holman

  2. Phil Holman said:

    I posted here a few months back after I had been diagnosed with bicuspid
    aortic valve and chronotropic incompetence.
    The CI was causing the biggest problem with my cycle racing as it
    reduced my aerobic power output to 80%. After weeks of poking, prodding
    and scanning, my cardiologist suspected a form of carditis. Over the
    past month or so I have seen a slow recovery to about 90% of my prior
    fitness and an increase in my heart rate while working out. I'm
    obviously delighted as there was a real possibility of no recovery.
    Anyone know of any other anecdotal incidences like this.

    Phil Holman

    There should be a concern that what you have been experiencing are the early
    manifestations of decompensating valvular heart disease.

    What is your functional aortic valve area? What are the peak and mean
    pressure gradients across your aortic valve?

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

  3. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Phil Holman said:

    I posted here a few months back after I had been diagnosed with


    bicuspid

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    aortic valve and chronotropic incompetence.
    The CI was causing the biggest problem with my cycle racing as it
    reduced my aerobic power output to 80%. After weeks of poking,


    prodding

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and scanning, my cardiologist suspected a form of carditis. Over the
    past month or so I have seen a slow recovery to about 90% of my


    prior

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fitness and an increase in my heart rate while working out. I'm
    obviously delighted as there was a real possibility of no recovery.
    Anyone know of any other anecdotal incidences like this.

    Phil Holman

    There should be a concern that what you have been experiencing are the


    early

    Quoted message said:

    manifestations of decompensating valvular heart disease.

    What is your functional aortic valve area? What are the peak and mean
    pressure gradients across your aortic valve?

    5mm delta p across the valve. I didn't see any numbers on valve area but
    the flow rate was ~2m/s.
    Cardiologist was less concerned about immediate problems with the valve.
    Is there a correlation between valve disease and HR. I've not seen this
    mentioned anywhere.

    Phil Holman

  4. Phil Holman said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Phil Holman said:

    I posted here a few months back after I had been diagnosed with


    bicuspid

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    aortic valve and chronotropic incompetence.
    The CI was causing the biggest problem with my cycle racing as it
    reduced my aerobic power output to 80%. After weeks of poking,


    prodding

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and scanning, my cardiologist suspected a form of carditis. Over the
    past month or so I have seen a slow recovery to about 90% of my


    prior

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fitness and an increase in my heart rate while working out. I'm
    obviously delighted as there was a real possibility of no recovery.
    Anyone know of any other anecdotal incidences like this.

    Phil Holman

    There should be a concern that what you have been experiencing are the


    early

    Quoted message said:

    manifestations of decompensating valvular heart disease.

    What is your functional aortic valve area? What are the peak and mean
    pressure gradients across your aortic valve?

    5mm delta p across the valve. I didn't see any numbers on valve area but
    the flow rate was ~2m/s.
    Cardiologist was less concerned about immediate problems with the valve.
    Is there a correlation between valve disease and HR.

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    I've not seen this
    mentioned anywhere.

    Phil Holman

    I'll see if I can dig up a ref for you.

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

  5. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There should be a concern that what you have been experiencing are


    the early manifestations of decompensating valvular heart disease.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What is your functional aortic valve area? What are the peak and


    mean pressure gradients across your aortic valve?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    5mm delta p across the valve. I didn't see any numbers on valve area


    but the flow rate was ~2m/s.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cardiologist was less concerned about immediate problems with the


    valve. Is there a correlation between valve disease and HR.

    Quoted message said:


    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    I've not seen this
    mentioned anywhere.

    Phil Holman

    I'll see if I can dig up a ref for you.

    I'd appreciate that. I've searched pubmed but the data that comes up is
    not really applicable (I assume).
    It appears to be for people that have suffered an MI and now cannot
    increase their HR to 85% of an age predicted max.
    Not that I'm in denial but I have a hard time relating my immediate
    problem with my valve. My valve will not any get better which does
    not explain an increase in sustainable HR from a previous 128 to 147
    currently. What has been *normal* for me is anything in the 150s.

    Phil Holman

  6. Phil Holman said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > There should be a concern that what you have been experiencing are


    the early manifestations of decompensating valvular heart disease.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > What is your functional aortic valve area? What are the peak and


    mean pressure gradients across your aortic valve?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    5mm delta p across the valve. I didn't see any numbers on valve area


    but the flow rate was ~2m/s.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cardiologist was less concerned about immediate problems with the


    valve. Is there a correlation between valve disease and HR.

    Quoted message said:


    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    I've not seen this
    mentioned anywhere.

    Phil Holman

    I'll see if I can dig up a ref for you.

    I'd appreciate that. I've searched pubmed but the data that comes up is
    not really applicable (I assume).
    It appears to be for people that have suffered an MI and now cannot
    increase their HR to 85% of an age predicted max.
    Not that I'm in denial but I have a hard time relating my immediate
    problem with my valve. My valve will not any get better which does
    not explain an increase in sustainable HR from a previous 128 to 147
    currently. What has been *normal* for me is anything in the 150s.

    Phil Holman

    The heart rate effects of your aortic stenosis may be transient.

    Here's a ref describing an extreme case:

    http://tinyurl.com/o062

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

  7. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Phil Holman said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > There should be a concern that what you have been experiencing


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the early manifestations of decompensating valvular heart disease.

    Quoted message said:

    > > What is your functional aortic valve area? What are the peak


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mean pressure gradients across your aortic valve?

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > 5mm delta p across the valve. I didn't see any numbers on valve


    area

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but the flow rate was ~2m/s.

    Quoted message said:

    > Cardiologist was less concerned about immediate problems with


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    valve. Is there a correlation between valve disease and HR.

    Quoted message said:


    Yes.

    > I've not seen this
    > mentioned anywhere.
    >
    > Phil Holman

    I'll see if I can dig up a ref for you.

    I'd appreciate that. I've searched pubmed but the data that comes up


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not really applicable (I assume).
    It appears to be for people that have suffered an MI and now cannot
    increase their HR to 85% of an age predicted max.
    Not that I'm in denial but I have a hard time relating my immediate
    problem with my valve. My valve will not any get better which does
    not explain an increase in sustainable HR from a previous 128 to 147
    currently. What has been *normal* for me is anything in the 150s.

    Phil Holman

    The heart rate effects of your aortic stenosis may be transient.

    Here's a ref describing an extreme case:

    http://tinyurl.com/o062

    Thanks Dr Chung. The related articles were also very informative.

    Phil Holman

  8. Phil Holman said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Phil Holman said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > There should be a concern that what you have been experiencing


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the early manifestations of decompensating valvular heart disease.
    > > > What is your functional aortic valve area? What are the peak


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    mean pressure gradients across your aortic valve?
    > >
    > > 5mm delta p across the valve. I didn't see any numbers on valve


    area

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but the flow rate was ~2m/s.
    > > Cardiologist was less concerned about immediate problems with


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    valve. Is there a correlation between valve disease and HR.
    >
    > Yes.
    >
    > > I've not seen this
    > > mentioned anywhere.
    > >
    > > Phil Holman
    >
    > I'll see if I can dig up a ref for you.

    I'd appreciate that. I've searched pubmed but the data that comes up


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not really applicable (I assume).
    It appears to be for people that have suffered an MI and now cannot
    increase their HR to 85% of an age predicted max.
    Not that I'm in denial but I have a hard time relating my immediate
    problem with my valve. My valve will not any get better which does
    not explain an increase in sustainable HR from a previous 128 to 147
    currently. What has been *normal* for me is anything in the 150s.

    Phil Holman

    The heart rate effects of your aortic stenosis may be transient.

    Here's a ref describing an extreme case:

    http://tinyurl.com/o062

    Thanks Dr Chung. The related articles were also very informative.

    Phil Holman

    Glad to help :-)

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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