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  1. http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/contemporary/muni/splash.html

    heya, im thinking of getting a one of these....anyone got any thoughts?
    ive heard its a decent Muni, has anyone got one? Is it?
    cheers

  2. Check out others at 'http://www.unicycle.uk.com/' (http://)

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  3. if i was you i would go for something without loli-pop bearrings

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  4. My son has been riding one of the Pashley 20" munis for the last couple
    years (he's now 11), and it's held up really well to light-moderate
    trail riding and drops of a foot or less.

    That said, the times and technology have changed these last couple
    years, and Pashley has made no modifications I'm aware of to keep up.
    The design is a bit dated, and I don't think the price/performance ratio
    is really there anymore.

    It's hard to provide much advice without knowing your budget, location,
    current riding skills and future goals, etc.. But overall, despite the
    fact that they "own" the "Muni" name, I wouldn't really call the Pashley
    a muni in the current sense of the word. It's a decent frame with a
    sub-optimal knobby tire. I think you can do better for the price.

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  5. I've had one for a year and I like it a lot. If you started on a
    beginner uni and are ready for something more durable, this is a more
    durable novice muni. If I had it to do all over again, the concerns I
    would have about buying the pashley as a first muni are these:

    -It comes with slick Big Apple tire. I ended up really liking that tire
    but I question the inclusion of a road tire on a muni. You'll be
    shopping for a mountain tire immediately.

    -The viscount seat won't work for muni. It is too hard and you'll be
    looking for a replacement pretty quick.

    -Not very many unis come with nice pedals but that still goes on my list
    of things I had to upgrade in order to be truly trail ready.

    -The seatpost size is odd. You can only fit viscount or Kris Holm seats
    on the post. If you want to switch to a torker/miyata style seat, you
    will have to use shims or have some custom modifications done to seat
    post.

    There are a lot of positives but these are the things I've encountered
    that have been drawbacks. I've converted mine into a 29" commuter and am
    in the market for a splined 24" Muni.

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  6. My first uni was a Pashley UMX 20". My second was a Pashley MUni 26.
    The MUni was much better than the UMX.

    My third uni was a Nimbus II 20" - immeasurably better than the Pashley
    UMX.

    Since then, I've owned or ridden a range of unis, from Nimbus I to Coker
    to DM. I would never buy a Pashley again.

    The Pashley is made of lightweight materials - in fact, they've used
    loads of lightweight material. Tons of the stuff. Get my drift?

    The bearing housings are not simple lollipops, but they are harder to
    remove than ordinary clamps. The standard tyre is simply dreadful. The
    standard cranks are heavy and ugly. The bottle cage bosses are
    useless.

    The Pashley MUni is a big heavy ugly poorly designed unicycle which will
    not maximise your off road unicycling pleasure.

    That said, I've found mine to be tough, reliable and I've had some good
    rides on it.

    Do not buy a Pashley MUni. Buy a MUni designed by keen unicyclists for
    keen unicyclists. Get a better tyre, lighter frame, tougher rim, nicer
    cranks... If you plan to ride hard, then pay the extra for a KH or
    something like that. If you just want to scoot around on the dirt, get
    a Nimbus/Yuni and stick a knobbly tyre on it.

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  7. My first uni was a Pashley UMX 20". My second was a Pashley MUni 26.
    The MUni was much better than the UMX.

    My third uni was a Nimbus II 20" - immeasurably better than the Pashley
    UMX.

    Since then, I've owned or ridden a range of unis, from Nimbus I to Coker
    to DM. I would never buy a Pashley again.

    The Pashley is made of lightweight materials - in fact, they've used
    loads of lightweight material. Tons of the stuff. Get my drift?

    The bearing housings are not simple lollipops, but they are harder to
    remove than ordinary clamps. The standard tyre is simply dreadful. The
    standard cranks are heavy and ugly. The bottle cage bosses are
    useless.

    The Pashley MUni is a big heavy ugly poorly designed unicycle which will
    not maximise your off road unicycling pleasure.

    That said, I've found mine to be tough, reliable and I've had some good
    rides on it.

    Do not buy a Pashley MUni. Buy a MUni designed by keen unicyclists for
    keen unicyclists. Get a better tyre, lighter frame, tougher rim, nicer
    cranks... If you plan to ride hard, then pay the extra for a KH or
    something like that. If you just want to scoot around on the dirt, get
    a Nimbus/Yuni and stick a knobbly tyre on it.

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  8. There are many cool things about a Pashley:

    - Their unicycle is the only one called a "Muni" as a model name. They
    did it first. They know they do not own the word (they got it from
    Duncan Castling, same as us), but as a product name they may have it
    sewed up.

    - Theirs is the first unicycle made specifically for offroad riding.

    - The one in the "action" photo on their web site was donated to the
    second annual California MUni Weekend in 1997. Manufacturers generally
    are not aware enough to donate unicycles. We usually get them from
    resellers, like Unicycle.com or Bedford.

    - The Pashley is retro.

    - Theirs is the only lolipop bearing system that does not suck. Bolts
    enter the frame from both sides, and the design does not cause the frame
    to break.

    Drawbacks:

    - The Pashley is retro.
    Their design does not seem to have changed since they were introduced in
    1996 or so.

    - Fatter tires cannot fit.

    Yes, the Pashley will always be special in the world of mountain
    unicycling, as the first one. Before Pashleys, you had to cobble
    together your own from whatever tire you could fit into a regular frame.
    Pashleys came out before we learned about 3" tires, so the frames are
    narrower.

    Brett Bymaster rode one for years, and beat the tar out of it. I'm sure
    he still has it. It held up just fine for him, with probably thousands
    of miles of trail riding, but not tons of hopping like you'd do in
    Trials.

    So, respect the Pashley, but be aware that the design is dated.

    The photo on their web site is of Jonathan Young in the Confluence
    Uphill Race at the 1997 CA MUni Weekend in Auburn. He had won the
    unicycle on the previous day. The unicycle had been brought in by Roger
    Davies (now of unicycle.uk.com). See more pictures from that day:
    http://www.unicycling.com/muni/muni97/sunam.htm

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  9. There are many cool things about a Pashley:

    - Their unicycle is the only one called a "Muni" as a model name. They
    did it first. They know they do not own the word (they got it from
    Duncan Castling, same as us), but as a product name they may have it
    sewed up.

    - Theirs is the first unicycle made specifically for offroad riding.

    - The one in the "action" photo on their web site was donated to the
    second annual California MUni Weekend in 1997. Manufacturers generally
    are not aware enough to donate unicycles. We usually get them from
    resellers, like Unicycle.com or Bedford.

    - The Pashley is retro.

    - Theirs is the only lolipop bearing system that does not suck. Bolts
    enter the frame from both sides, and the design does not cause the frame
    to break.

    Drawbacks:

    - The Pashley is retro.
    Their design does not seem to have changed since they were introduced in
    1996 or so.

    - Fatter tires cannot fit.

    Yes, the Pashley will always be special in the world of mountain
    unicycling, as the first one. Before Pashleys, you had to cobble
    together your own from whatever tire you could fit into a regular frame.
    Pashleys came out before we learned about 3" tires, so the frames are
    narrower.

    Brett Bymaster rode one for years, and beat the tar out of it. I'm sure
    he still has it. It held up just fine for him, with probably thousands
    of miles of trail riding, but not tons of hopping like you'd do in
    Trials.

    So, respect the Pashley, but be aware that the design is dated.

    The photo on their web site is of Jonathan Young in the Confluence
    Uphill Race at the 1997 CA MUni Weekend in Auburn. He had won the
    unicycle on the previous day. The unicycle had been brought in by Roger
    Davies (now of unicycle.uk.com). See more pictures from that day:
    http://www.unicycling.com/muni/muni97/sunam.htm

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  10. The Pashley was possibly the only uni with lollipop style bearings that
    was considered OK (all other unis with lollipops were very prone to the
    frame splitting near the bearings).

    However, like others are saying, the Pashley is old technology and you
    can do much better for the money.

    Go to-

    www.unicycle.uk.com

    and check out the Nimbus models which have-

    *main cap style bearing holders (even 'good' lollipop bearing holders
    have the considerable disadvantage that taking off the wheel for
    changing inner tubes can be a real ordeal)

    *a frame thats wide enough to fit in fat 3" tyres (great for muni)- the
    tyre that comes with the Pashley is inadequate for muni, and the frame
    isn't designed to fit the fat tyres in.

    Also, it's established technology, simple but good, and there's a lot of
    satisfied Nimbus owners out there.

    Purchasing from unicycle.uk.com you'll get excellent customer service
    (ring Roger on the freephone number listed on the site for useful advice
    about what uni is right for you).

    Here's a Nimbus 24x3 muni: -

    http://tinyurl.com/3gd9k

    and, a bit cheaper-

    http://tinyurl.com/3gd9k

    but look round the site as there's other configurations and other
    models.

    Also, do some searches on this discussion board using relevant terms-
    there's loads of useful info here that can really help you decide what
    uni to get.

    The best way to get informative replies is to supply loads of info such
    as location, experience, what type of riding you do/want to do etc.

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  11. The Pashley was possibly the only uni with lollipop style bearings that
    was considered OK (all other unis with lollipops were very prone to the
    frame splitting near the bearings).

    However, like others are saying, the Pashley is old technology and you
    can do much better for the money.

    Go to-

    www.unicycle.uk.com

    and check out the Nimbus models which have-

    *main cap style bearing holders (even 'good' lollipop bearing holders
    have the considerable disadvantage that taking off the wheel for
    changing inner tubes can be a real ordeal)

    *a frame thats wide enough to fit in fat 3" tyres (great for muni)- the
    tyre that comes with the Pashley is inadequate for muni, and the frame
    isn't designed to fit the fat tyres in.

    Also, it's established technology, simple but good, and there's a lot of
    satisfied Nimbus owners out there.

    Purchasing from unicycle.uk.com you'll get excellent customer service
    (ring Roger on the freephone number listed on the site for useful advice
    about what uni is right for you).

    Here's a Nimbus 24x3 muni: -

    http://tinyurl.com/3gd9k

    and, a bit cheaper-

    http://tinyurl.com/3gd9k

    but look round the site as there's other configurations and other
    models.

    Also, do some searches on this discussion board using relevant terms-
    there's loads of useful info here that can really help you decide what
    uni to get.

    The best way to get informative replies is to supply loads of info such
    as location, experience, what type of riding you do/want to do etc.

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    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
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  12. I have a Pashley 26" Muni.

    I would reccomend you do not buy a Pashley, for all the reasons listed
    above.

    If you still want one, I will give you a good deal on a used Pashley
    26" Muni.

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  13. I have a Pashley 26" Muni.

    I would reccomend you do not buy a Pashley, for all the reasons listed
    above.

    If you still want one, I will give you a good deal on a used Pashley
    26" Muni.

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  14. nbrazzi said:

    *I have a Pashley 26" Muni.

    I would reccomend you do not buy a Pashley, for all the reasons listed
    above.

    If you still want one, I will give you a good deal on a used Pashley
    26" Muni. *

    I sincerely hope you don't work in marketing - you'd starve!🙂

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  15. nbrazzi said:

    *I have a Pashley 26" Muni.

    I would reccomend you do not buy a Pashley, for all the reasons listed
    above.

    If you still want one, I will give you a good deal on a used Pashley
    26" Muni. *

    I sincerely hope you don't work in marketing - you'd starve!🙂

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  16. Quoted message said:

    The best way to get informative replies is to supply loads of info such
    as location, experience, what type of riding you do/want to do etc.

    a bit more info about who, what, where etc
    im 16, i used my old uni for my paper round/going to school/going to friends
    houses... my bike saddle is held together by string, so ive used my uni for a
    bike ride, and found it loads of fun, so id like to do a bit more Muni-ing.

    Experience, i can do the half the level 4 skills, and a couple of 5s. i also do
    a few school shows etc.

  17. Based on your skills descriptions, I'd pass on the Pashley. I think
    you'll find better price/performance on some of the other models that
    folks have linked to further up in this post.

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  18. If you do end up with a Pashley, don;t despair, with a decent tyre and
    saddle they are pretty good. I've had mine 7 years or more now and its
    still holding out. original hub, rim, frame and most of the spokes.
    evry thing else has been changed over the years tho!
    SArah

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  19. I'm yet another pashley owner telling you not to buy one. For muni, the
    inability to take a 3" tire is a show stopper. The standard 26" rim is
    narrow and weak. I now use my pashley as a 29er, and it's pretty good
    for that, but if I was starting a 29er from scratch I'd use a nimbus
    frame.

    Why hasn't any other uni frame maker picked up the bottle bosses? I know
    they're much derided, but I use them all the time. I often want some
    water for a medium length ride but don't want a camel carcass on my
    back.

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  20. cjd said:

    *I'm yet another pashley owner telling you not to buy one. For muni,
    the inability to take a 3" tire is a show stopper. The standard 26"
    rim is narrow and weak. I now use my pashley as a 29er, and it's
    pretty good for that, but if I was starting a 29er from scratch I'd
    use a nimbus frame.

    Why hasn't any other uni frame maker picked up the bottle bosses? I
    know they're much derided, but I use them all the time. I often want
    some water for a medium length ride but don't want a camel carcass on
    my back. *

    You can get them fitted to bike frames, it probably wouldn't cost much
    to have them put onto a nimbus frame.

    Joe

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