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  1. Heh. I am talking store-bought (dried?) spaghetti here.... so sue me!

    The cooking "destructions" say that it should be cooked in boiling
    (salted) water (with a tablespoon of oil added to the water) for 10-12
    minutes...

    Yeah right!

    Mine always takes *at least* 25 minutes before it's "al dente" i.e. it's
    not "soggy".
    And yes, before anyone asks, the water is *boiling* the whole time...

    Is it just me or...???

    Comments welcome 😉
    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

  2. ChattyCathy said:

    Heh. I am talking store-bought (dried?) spaghetti here.... so sue me!


    I surely won't sue you. I don't make pasta from scratch. I sometimes buy
    "raw" pasta from the refrigerator section at the store, but not often.

    Quoted message said:

    The cooking "destructions" say that it should be cooked in boiling
    (salted) water (with a tablespoon of oil added to the water) for 10-12
    minutes...

    Yeah right!

    Mine always takes *at least* 25 minutes before it's "al dente" i.e.
    it's not "soggy".
    And yes, before anyone asks, the water is *boiling* the whole time...

    Is it just me or...???

    Comments welcome 😉

    Cathy, I've never had dried pasta take that long to cook. In fact,
    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti (broken
    into 3rds for manageability) then simply remove it from the heat and cover
    it. It cooks 'al dente' in 10, maybe 12, minutes without further ado and
    I've freed up a burner for other things. I have noticed some pastas
    labelled "whole wheat" (an oxymoron? they do look more brown in colour) take
    a little longer to cook, but not by much.

    Jill

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    ChattyCathy said:

    Heh. I am talking store-bought (dried?) spaghetti here.... so sue me!

    The cooking "destructions" say that it should be cooked in boiling
    (salted) water (with a tablespoon of oil added to the water) for 10-12
    minutes...

    Yeah right!

    Mine always takes *at least* 25 minutes before it's "al dente" i.e. it's
    not "soggy".
    And yes, before anyone asks, the water is *boiling* the whole time...

    Is it just me or...???

    Comments welcome 😉

    What is your altitude?

    It has a bearing on the temperature of the boiling water.

    We used to live at 8,000 feet, above Denver in Colorado.
    That is where a pressure cooker _really_ comes in handy. ;-)

    Not sure I'd use it for pasta tho'!
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Steve Rothstein

  4. jmcquown said:


    Cathy, I've never had dried pasta take that long to cook. In fact,
    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti (broken
    into 3rds for manageability) then simply remove it from the heat and cover
    it. It cooks 'al dente' in 10, maybe 12, minutes without further ado and
    I've freed up a burner for other things. I have noticed some pastas
    labelled "whole wheat" (an oxymoron? they do look more brown in colour) take
    a little longer to cook, but not by much.

    Here's what it says on the package:

    1. Fill a medium to large pot 2/3 full with water, and bring to the boil

    <I do that>

    2. Add a tablespoon of oil and salt to taste

    <I do that too - BTW, I use olive oil>

    3. Add pasta and boil, uncovered for 10-12 minutes until tender but
    still firm, stirring a few times during cooking.

    <I do that too>

    (Trust me, it's not *done* yet. It's still "hard" in the middle and
    tastes like... 'raw flour' (is there such a thing??) - blech!)

    4. Drain water from pasta and serve with a sauce of your choice....

    <this works well after about 25 minutes>

    OK - one other thing - we live at an altitude of approx. 1600 meters
    (about 5000 feet) above sea level - so our water boils at a little under
    100 Deg C. Wonder if that has anything to do with it??

    FWIW, the brand name is 'Fatti's & Moni's'
    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

  5. ChattyCathy said:

    Heh. I am talking store-bought (dried?) spaghetti here.... so sue me!

    The cooking "destructions" say that it should be cooked in boiling
    (salted) water (with a tablespoon of oil added to the water) for 10-12
    minutes...

    Yeah right!

    Mine always takes *at least* 25 minutes before it's "al dente" i.e. it's
    not "soggy".
    And yes, before anyone asks, the water is *boiling* the whole time...

    Is it just me or...???


    I'm wondering what elevation you're living at! I have to cook my
    packaged pasta for a minute or three less than the package suggests or
    else I'll get mush.

    sf @ "sea level"
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

  6. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cathy, I've never had dried pasta take that long to cook. In fact,
    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti
    (broken
    into 3rds for manageability) then simply remove it from the heat and cover
    it. It cooks 'al dente' in 10, maybe 12, minutes without further ado and
    I've freed up a burner for other things. I> Jill

    I caught onto this trick from my m-i-l. It works well with most thinner
    pasta. I don't test my luck with the method with penne's etc.

    When I put the spaghetti into the pan of boiling water, I usually leave it
    whole, but encircle it around inside the pan until it melts down into the
    water and gets to boiling again, then time it from there.

    Dee

  7. "ChattyCathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Heh. I am talking store-bought (dried?) spaghetti here.... so sue me!

    The cooking "destructions" say that it should be cooked in boiling
    (salted) water (with a tablespoon of oil added to the water) for 10-12
    minutes...

    Yeah right!

    Mine always takes *at least* 25 minutes before it's "al dente" i.e. it's
    not "soggy".
    And yes, before anyone asks, the water is *boiling* the whole time...

    Is it just me or...???

    Comments welcome 😉
    --

    Angel hair takes 4 mintutes. Macaroni takes 8-11, IIRC. I have found that I
    like pasta done the time suggested on the box or less. But then I don't
    generally
    cook BIG HONKING NOODLES.

    lol

    TWENTY FIVE MINUTES FOR PASTA???

  8. cybercat said:


    TWENTY FIVE MINUTES FOR PASTA???


    Yep.

    <Cathy just finished eating her pasta with meat sauce>

    Altitude: 5000 feet 😉

    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

  9. jmcquown wrote:
    In fact,

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti (broken
    into 3rds for manageability)

    <clutching chest in pain>
    Oh no no no, Jill. Don't do this! This is horrible. Just twirl a few
    strands on your fork to make a compact package you then can lift to your
    mouth. It isn't hard, and is a more grown up way of eating.
    Short broken pieces of spaghetti don't twirl worth a [censored].

  10. ChattyCathy said:

    OK - one other thing - we live at an altitude of approx. 1600 meters
    (about 5000 feet) above sea level - so our water boils at a little under
    100 Deg C. Wonder if that has anything to do with it??

    Altitude is your problem!
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

  11. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    jmcquown wrote:
    In fact,

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti
    (broken
    into 3rds for manageability)

    <clutching chest in pain>
    Oh no no no, Jill. Don't do this! This is horrible. Just twirl a few
    strands on your fork to make a compact package you then can lift to your
    mouth. It isn't hard, and is a more grown up way of eating.
    Short broken pieces of spaghetti don't twirl worth a [censored].

    Why are you telling anyone how to eat pasta, FFS? I like mine
    the way you like yours, but I make my husband's the way HE likes
    it--broken in to thirds.

  12. "ChattyCathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    cybercat said:


    TWENTY FIVE MINUTES FOR PASTA???


    Yep.

    <Cathy just finished eating her pasta with meat sauce>

    Altitude: 5000 feet 😉

    ohhhhh.

    Well.

    Never mind. 😄

  13. ChattyCathy said...

    Quoted message said:

    Heh. I am talking store-bought (dried?) spaghetti here.... so sue me!

    The cooking "destructions" say that it should be cooked in boiling
    (salted) water (with a tablespoon of oil added to the water) for 10-12
    minutes...

    Yeah right!

    Mine always takes *at least* 25 minutes before it's "al dente" i.e. it's
    not "soggy".
    And yes, before anyone asks, the water is *boiling* the whole time...

    Is it just me or...???

    Comments welcome 😉

    Cathy,

    That sounds like too long for spaghetti. Are you making it in a pot with
    LOTS of water or are you crowding the spaghetti into "shallow waters?"

    My vermicelli takes 8-10 minutes.

    Good luck,

    Andy

  14. Goomba38 said:

    jmcquown wrote:
    In fact,

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti
    (broken into 3rds for manageability)

    <clutching chest in pain>
    Oh no no no, Jill. Don't do this! This is horrible. Just twirl a few
    strands on your fork to make a compact package you then can lift to
    your mouth. It isn't hard, and is a more grown up way of eating.
    Short broken pieces of spaghetti don't twirl worth a [censored].

    They aren't that short and they still twirl 🙂

  15. On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:39:44 -0400, Goomba38 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    jmcquown wrote:
    In fact,

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti (broken
    into 3rds for manageability)

    <clutching chest in pain>
    Oh no no no, Jill. Don't do this! This is horrible. Just twirl a few
    strands on your fork to make a compact package you then can lift to your
    mouth. It isn't hard, and is a more grown up way of eating.
    Short broken pieces of spaghetti don't twirl worth a [censored].

    I'm turning into a stabber. I just don't like to twirl anymore unless
    it's linguine and clams. So, intead of spaghetti - I prefer rigatoni
    with my meat sauce.
    --

    History is a vast early warning system
    Norman Cousins

  16. Dee Dee said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cathy, I've never had dried pasta take that long to cook. In fact,
    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti
    (broken
    into 3rds for manageability) then simply remove it from the heat and
    cover it. It cooks 'al dente' in 10, maybe 12, minutes without
    further ado and I've freed up a burner for other things. I> Jill

    I caught onto this trick from my m-i-l. It works well with most
    thinner pasta. I don't test my luck with the method with penne's etc.


    Oh heavens, no! I wouldn't do this with penne, rigatoni, corkscrew or jumbo
    shells (chochiglioni). Probably not even large macaroni. But for
    spaghetti, angel hair, and even fettucini, it tends to work just fine.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When I put the spaghetti into the pan of boiling water, I usually


    leave it whole, but encircle it around inside the pan until it melts
    down into the water and gets to boiling again, then time it from
    there.


    Yes, I remove it once it's stirred in well and comes back to the boil. Then
    cover, remove from the heat and go on to deal with the sauce, the bread, the
    vegetables (or salad, if I'm cooking for other people who want a fresh
    salad).

    As Cathy noted and sf concurs, her problem may be altitude. I have no idea
    how to adjust cooking dried pasta for that.

    Jill

  17. Andy said:


    Cathy,

    That sounds like too long for spaghetti. Are you making it in a pot with
    LOTS of water or are you crowding the spaghetti into "shallow waters?"

    My vermicelli takes 8-10 minutes.

    Good luck,

    The pot I use holds about 3.5-4 liters of water (just a guesstimate) -
    which I fill up to about 2/3 ; just so that it doesn't "boil over" onto
    the stove-top - and I only cook about 200g (less than half a pound) of
    dried pasta at a time... I have a much bigger pot - holds twice at much
    water.... and cooking the same amount of pasta in a lot more water still
    has the same results...

    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

  18. said...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm turning into a stabber. I just don't like to twirl anymore unless
    it's linguine and clams. So, intead of spaghetti - I prefer rigatoni
    with my meat sauce.

    I've been tempted to leave my homemade spaghetti in untrimmed three-foot
    lengths. Maybe have a "candid camera" moment watching guests twirl up tennis
    ball sized wads of spaghetti!!? 😄

    Andy's Evil Twin

  19. <sf> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:39:44 -0400, Goomba38 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    jmcquown wrote:
    In fact,

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes after I get the water to a rapid boil I add the spaghetti
    (broken
    into 3rds for manageability)

    <clutching chest in pain>
    Oh no no no, Jill. Don't do this! This is horrible. Just twirl a few
    strands on your fork to make a compact package you then can lift to your
    mouth. It isn't hard, and is a more grown up way of eating.
    Short broken pieces of spaghetti don't twirl worth a [censored].

    I'm turning into a stabber. I just don't like to twirl anymore unless
    it's linguine and clams. So, intead of spaghetti - I prefer rigatoni
    with my meat sauce.
    --

    I LOVE penne!

  20. cybercat said:

    Why are you telling anyone how to eat pasta, FFS? I like mine
    the way you like yours, but I make my husband's the way HE likes
    it--broken in to thirds.

    Kinda reminds me of Chef Boyardee canned stuff. Ugh.

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