Paul Newman is a Mountain Biker

In the previous article said:

He was rippin' it up in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

I notice he didn't need no wussy suspension, either.

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Besides that, the real Butch Cassidy used to hang around near Mohab
in a particular spot on a specific ridge to scope for trains to rob.
It's kind of cool, being in a spot where you know this particular
character from history was planning his hijinks.

Here are two pics of that spot. It's on (I think this is right) the
Onion Creek trail.

The shack:

http://www.panix.com/~baldwin/butch1.jpg

Standing near the shack and looking back toward the trail proper (that
isn't me peeking out there; that dude is too skinny):

http://www.panix.com/~baldwin/butch2.jpg

What I've heard about this spot is that "legend has it" that Butch and
Sundance hid out there. There's no solid historical support for it,
but historians of the Old West agree that it's at least plausible.
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JD said:

He was rippin' it up in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

On a fixie, no less, IIRC.

CC

Corvus Corvax said:

JD said:

He was rippin' it up in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

On a fixie, no less, IIRC.

CC

Nope he freewheeled... I specifically watched for it!

Jimbo... bike geek...(san)

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Quoted message said:

Corvus Corvax said:

JD said:

He was rippin' it up in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

On a fixie, no less, IIRC.

CC

Nope he freewheeled... I specifically watched for it!

Speaking of fixies on my morning commute I got held up at a
loooooooooooooooooooong, slow freight train in Glendale. Serves me right
for being the good doobie and waiting for the train. I got to the tracks
right when the bells started sounding, it still took another 10 seconds
after I stopped just for the arms to start dropping but I figured it was
going to be a high speed metro and it wouldn't take long. Wow, was I wrong.
Anyways, while I'm sitting there through the train I see a guy roll slowly
up on the other side of the tracks and he looked like a messenger, shoulder
mounted cell phone, messenger bag, lots of tats and piercings, cars r
coffins tshirt, don't know if he was a poseur or actually a messenger since
it was mid-day and we weren't downtown or anywhere close to a place that
bicycle messengers make sense, but since it looked like he was a character I
looked a little closer to see what he was riding and it was a fixie. After
the train finally passed through I gave a wave to the guy and watched him
get into his clipless pedals pretty smoothly which brings up a question.
I'd always read that getting into clipless pedals was difficult on a fixie
but this guy made it look like a piece of cake. Experiences?

Greg

G.T. said:

cars r coffins tshirt

Hurl is *everywhere*.

JD

G.T. said:

I'd always read that getting into clipless pedals was difficult on a fixie
but this guy made it look like a piece of cake. Experiences?

Greg

I find it easy. I find that you get used to stepping into, clicking in
and keeping your feet moving.
I started in toe clips and have lately wanted to switch back so I could
choose more pedestrian friendly shoes... I am not looking foward to
changing my thinking when riding the fix.

Jimbo(san)

G.T. said:

I'd always read that getting into clipless pedals was difficult on a fixie
but this guy made it look like a piece of cake. Experiences?

Never had a problem. I'm surprised anybody told you it was an issue.

Clipping _out_ was a slightly more complicated learning curve for me.
The reason for this is that, on a freewheel bike, when you stop at a
light or whatever, you tend to clip out of the "high" pedal and leave
your foot in the "low" one, for stability when you put a foot down. If
you do that on a fix, you end up high and dry when you have to start up
again, because you can't rotate the pedal with your foot in it to the
high side to push off. On a fix, you have to clip out of the "low"
pedal when stopping, which feels really weird for a while.

CC

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Quoted message said:

Corvus Corvax said:

JD wrote:
> He was rippin' it up in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

On a fixie, no less, IIRC.

CC

Nope he freewheeled... I specifically watched for it!

Speaking of fixies on my morning commute I got held up at a
loooooooooooooooooooong, slow freight train in Glendale. Serves me right
for being the good doobie and waiting for the train. I got to the tracks
right when the bells started sounding, it still took another 10 seconds
after I stopped just for the arms to start dropping but I figured it was
going to be a high speed metro and it wouldn't take long. Wow, was I wrong.
Anyways, while I'm sitting there through the train I see a guy roll slowly
up on the other side of the tracks and he looked like a messenger, shoulder
mounted cell phone, messenger bag, lots of tats and piercings, cars r
coffins tshirt, don't know if he was a poseur or actually a messenger since
it was mid-day and we weren't downtown or anywhere close to a place that
bicycle messengers make sense, but since it looked like he was a character I
looked a little closer to see what he was riding and it was a fixie. After
the train finally passed through I gave a wave to the guy and watched him
get into his clipless pedals pretty smoothly which brings up a question.
I'd always read that getting into clipless pedals was difficult on a fixie
but this guy made it look like a piece of cake. Experiences?

Greg

Clipping in is no problem whatsoever, but if you ride brakeless
accidentally clipping out in a emergency is BAAAAD news. Straps are
more reliable in that way. I popped out of some admittably worn old
Shimano 747 and very nearly ate [censored] when a driver swerved head on
towards me. I've had good results with Time Atacs.
Straps are also big with messengers as you can wear normal shoes when
you're hoofing around.
/s

J.D. Baldwin said:

In the previous article said:

He was rippin' it up in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

I notice he didn't need no wussy suspension, either.

I think it was a 29er though.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Besides that, the real Butch Cassidy used to hang around near Mohab
in a particular spot on a specific ridge to scope for trains to rob.
It's kind of cool, being in a spot where you know this particular
character from history was planning his hijinks.

Here are two pics of that spot. It's on (I think this is right) the
Onion Creek trail.

The shack:

http://www.panix.com/~baldwin/butch1.jpg

There are no train tracks near that shack.

Quoted message said:

What I've heard about this spot is that "legend has it" that Butch and
Sundance hid out there. There's no solid historical support for it,
but historians of the Old West agree that it's at least plausible.

They hid out all over the place in the Four Corners area, so that's
probably true.

JD

JD wrote:
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Quoted message said:

They hid out all over the place in the Four Corners area, so that's
probably true.

JD

Yeah, there's a cave in Westwater canyon near the first rapid that was
supposed to be one of their hideouts too. Cool spot. Last time I was
there (maybe 10-12 years ago) there were still artifacts in it like an
old stove and some pieces of clothing. There was a sign asking to not
mess with the stuff and it seemed people had honored that. Of course
it's only accessible by the river (or maybe helicopter) so I think that
keeps a lot of people out.

Matt