Pedal reflectors on bents

Danny Colyer said:

Maybe I should save this until Guy gets back, but I'm sure he'll at least scan 6 weeks' worth of
urc headers after Easter.

I think I may have a solution to the problem of pedal reflectors on bents. As Guy has pointed out
several times, the lighting regs state that pedal reflectors must be clearly visible to the front
and rear. I've been through the regs and I can't find any loopholes:
hmso.gov.ukUksi 19891796 en 2.htmOpen ↗

But think of the legendary blades protruding from the hubs of Boadicea's chariot wheels. All we
need is reflective sticks protruding from the outside of each pedal and we can be legal. Might
work for clipless pedals on uprights, too.

Won't work on my trike. Even if the blades cleared the front wheels they would need to be at
least 18" long.

They would look pretty all lit up tho ;-)

John B

Same problem on my trike...............but then who cares! But even on a bi they would have to stick
out beyond your body...............Too wide!!!!!

SW

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Quoted message said:

Maybe I should save this until Guy gets back, but I'm sure he'll at least scan 6 weeks' worth of
urc headers after Easter.

I think I may have a solution to the problem of pedal reflectors on bents. As Guy has pointed out
several times, the lighting regs state that pedal reflectors must be clearly visible to the front
and rear. I've been through the regs and I can't find any loopholes:
hmso.gov.ukUksi 19891796 en 2.htmOpen ↗

But think of the legendary blades protruding from the hubs of Boadicea's chariot wheels. All we
need is reflective sticks protruding from the outside of each pedal and we can be legal. Might
work for clipless pedals on uprights, too.

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On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:27:08 +0000, Danny Colyer did issue forth:

Quoted message said:

I think I may have a solution to the problem of pedal reflectors on bents. As Guy has pointed out
several times, the lighting regs state that pedal reflectors must be clearly visible to the front
and rear. I've been through the regs and I can't find any loopholes:
hmso.gov.ukUksi 19891796 en 2.htmOpen ↗

I wonder how many people in the group actually have pedal reflectors? I don't, and I doubt any
of the other clipless users have anything apart from the bit of reflective material on the back
of the shoe.

Anyone ever got their collar felt by the Police over this?

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Huw Pritchard said:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:27:08 +0000, Danny Colyer did issue forth:

Quoted message said:

I think I may have a solution to the problem of pedal reflectors on bents. As Guy has pointed
out several times, the lighting regs state that pedal reflectors must be clearly visible to the
front and rear. I've been through the regs and I can't find any loopholes:
hmso.gov.ukUksi 19891796 en 2.htmOpen ↗

I wonder how many people in the group actually have pedal reflectors? I don't, and I doubt any of
the other clipless users have anything apart from the bit of reflective material on the back of
the shoe.

Anyone ever got their collar felt by the Police over this?

I would doubt it.

But given time, insurance companies are sure to latch on to a lack of reflectors as contributory
negligence when a cyclist is hit by a motorist. they've already started with helmets.

No hemlet, no reflectors, no reflective clothing, - you must be 50% at fault. What? No car? On a
bike? Make that 100% at fault.

John B

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Quoted message said:

Huw Pritchard said:

Anyone ever got their collar felt by the Police over this?

Quoted message said:

I would doubt it.

It is only on newish (post 1986 I think) bicycles that this is a legal requirement so police are
unlikely to go spotting absent reflectors.

I rather like reflective ankle bands and think they do the job rather better than pedal reflectors.

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Steve Watkin said:

Same problem on my trike...............but then who cares! But even on a bi they would have to
stick out beyond your body...............Too wide!!!!!

Dose the law specify just at what range in front & behind they have to be visible? No. So 10cm from
the pedal is good enough surely! No need to be visible past the body, or in the case of my Ross,
the huuuge panniers. Getting a rear light visible past the panniers is causing me some trouble
though :-(

Mike

Quoted message said:

I wonder how many people in the group actually have pedal reflectors?

On my trad pedals with toe clips, the pedals do have reflectors. My Look pedals don't so what I do
when my Look pedals are on the bike I wear fluorescent & reflective yellow trouser clips even though
I don't *need* trouser clips for the trousers, so to speak.

Cheers, helen s

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Mike Causer said:

Steve Watkin said:

Same problem on my trike...............but then who cares! But even on a bi they would have to
stick out beyond your body...............Too wide!!!!!

Dose the law specify just at what range in front & behind they have to be visible? No. So 10cm
from the pedal is good enough surely! No need to be visible past the body, or in the case of my
Ross, the huuuge panniers. Getting a rear light visible past the panniers is causing me some
trouble though :-(

You will have to go back and check but I'm pretty sure the bits of the lighting regs to do with
lights being obscured only apply to motor vehicles.

OTOH, you probably want the light to be seen, not just be legal ;-)

Tim.

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Helen Deborah Vecht said:

I rather like reflective ankle bands and think they do the job rather better than pedal reflectors.

Agreed 100%, Helen.

As I mentioned in this NG recently, neither of my bikes have reflective pedals; I have SPDs on both.
Therefore, I always strap on my reflective ankle bands whenever I'm riding in the dark.

James

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