Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact cranks...
How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? Do you know the part number? I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact cranks...
How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? Do you know the part number? I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Thanks - Joel
Joel: Any Trek/Klein/LeMond/Fisher dealer can order one of those brackets for you. They run about $10. If you run into grief, let me know and I can have the inside rep for your area make sure your local shop gets one.
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Peter,
I saw this on one of your posts:
Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact cranks...
How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? Do you know the part number? I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact cranks...
How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? Do you know the part number? I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Thanks - Joel
Joel: Any Trek/Klein/LeMond/Fisher dealer can order one of those brackets for you. They run about $10. If you run into grief, let me know and I can have the inside rep for your area make sure your local shop gets one.
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Peter,
I saw this on one of your posts:
Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact cranks...
How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? Do you know the part number? I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Thanks - Joel
Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
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Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Peter, I have the same trouble with a Scott CR1 frame, Campy Record CT front derailleur and a Record 48/34 Compact crank. I have two problems: 1. with a 102 mm BB, as Campy suggests, the front derailleur doesn't go inward enough. I have some chainrub in the small (front)-big (rear) combination. I solved it by offsetting the BB a little. It works but I find it strange that I have to do this. 2. the front derailleur doesn't go low enough. In the lowest position there is a gap of 4 mm between the front derailleur cage and the big ring. It looks like it shifts OK, but I wonder if a triple front derailleur with longer arms woud be a better solution.
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Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Peter, I have the same trouble with a Scott CR1 frame, Campy Record CT front derailleur and a Record 48/34 Compact crank. I have two problems: 1. with a 102 mm BB, as Campy suggests, the front derailleur doesn't go inward enough. I have some chainrub in the small (front)-big (rear) combination. I solved it by offsetting the BB a little. It works but I find it strange that I have to do this. 2. the front derailleur doesn't go low enough. In the lowest position there is a gap of 4 mm between the front derailleur cage and the big ring. It looks like it shifts OK, but I wonder if a triple front derailleur with longer arms woud be a better solution.
Lou
A triple front would help and work fine. BIG tubed carbon frames are the problem, that place the front der too close to the seatube. AND brazeon fd are from the devil..agreeing with Sheldon.
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Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Peter, I have the same trouble with a Scott CR1 frame, Campy Record CT front derailleur and a Record 48/34 Compact crank. I have two problems: 1. with a 102 mm BB, as Campy suggests, the front derailleur doesn't go inward enough. I have some chainrub in the small (front)-big (rear) combination. I solved it by offsetting the BB a little. It works but I find it strange that I have to do this. 2. the front derailleur doesn't go low enough. In the lowest position there is a gap of 4 mm between the front derailleur cage and the big ring. It looks like it shifts OK, but I wonder if a triple front derailleur with longer arms woud be a better solution.
Lou
A triple front would help and work fine. BIG tubed carbon frames are the problem, that place the front der too close to the seatube. AND brazeon fd are from the devil..agreeing with Sheldon.
Another bodge which can sometimes work is to tap and drill another hole above the original one in the body of the deraileur
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Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Peter, I have the same trouble with a Scott CR1 frame, Campy Record CT
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derailleur and a Record 48/34 Compact crank. I have two problems: 1. with a 102 mm BB, as Campy suggests, the front derailleur doesn't go inward enough. I have some chainrub in the small (front)-big (rear) combination. I solved it by offsetting the BB a little. It works but I
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it strange that I have to do this. 2. the front derailleur doesn't go low enough. In the lowest position
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is a gap of 4 mm between the front derailleur cage and the big ring. It looks like it shifts OK, but I wonder if a triple front derailleur with longer arms woud be a better solution.
Lou
A triple front would help and work fine. BIG tubed carbon frames are the problem, that place the front der too close to the seatube
In this case the seat tube isn't to big I think (31.9 mm?) The arms of the CT front derailleur touch each other before the front derailleur hits the seat tube. So you think that a triple front derailleur spaced at 2 mm from the big ring is a better solution shiftwise than a CT front derailleur spaced at 4 mm from the big ring? Cost is not important (in this case), maximum shiftperformance is.
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brazeon fd are from the devil..agreeing with Sheldon.
I couldn't agree more. I hate those flimsy riveted frontderailleur hangers.
Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions. Still, at least having an optional hanger (and one that, with a *lot* of effort, can be modified further) is better than the old brazed-on hangers that used to be popular on many steel frames. Those were *not* fun sometimes! When people would order custom frames, we'd try to talk them out of them, but didn't matter, they wanted as many brazed-on goodies as possible.
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Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact cranks...
How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? Do you know the part number? I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Thanks - Joel
Joel: Any Trek/Klein/LeMond/Fisher dealer can order one of those brackets for you. They run about $10. If you run into grief, let me know and I can have the inside rep for your area make sure your local shop gets one.
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Peter,
I saw this on one of your posts:
Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact cranks...
How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? Do you know the part number? I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Thanks - Joel
Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions.
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Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions.
The above is guaranteed 100% free of sarcasm, denigration, snotty remarks, indifference, platitudes, fuming demands that "you do the math", conceited visions of a better world on wheels according to [insert NAME here].
Especially true for Mavic front deraillures. There's lots of room on top of factory hole. I've got a bunch of them if anyone wants to purchase one from me.
Maybe more "correctly," as a Trek/Klein dealer, you have Shimano/Bontrager on all your bikes and forgot about the "Campy world?"
Do you sell any Campy-equipped bikes?
A few, primarily from the LeMond line, as well as custom bikes either built off the Project One Trek site or in our store. You correctly suspect that the great majority are Shimano.
--Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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> Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any > "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions.
48/34 is a standard Campy compact crankset.
You're right, my bad. I've got 34/50 on my bike and just completely forgot there's a whole 'nother world out there! :>😉
Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions.
Campagnolo compacts and also Truvative both offer this combo. Just cuz it ain't shimano or Bontrager....etc.....etc....etc....
Still,
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at least having an optional hanger (and one that, with a *lot* of effort, can be modified further) is better than the old brazed-on hangers that used to be popular on many steel frames. Those were *not* fun sometimes! When people would order custom frames, we'd try to talk them out of them, but didn't matter, they wanted as many brazed-on goodies as possible.
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Mike Jacoubowsky said:
> Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact > cranks... > > How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? > Do you know the part number? > I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. > I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the > slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the > chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, > less than ideal solution. > > Thanks - Joel
Joel: Any Trek/Klein/LeMond/Fisher dealer can order one of those brackets for you. They run about $10. If you run into grief, let me know and I can have the inside rep for your area make sure your local shop gets one.
"Joel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Peter, > > I saw this on one of your posts: > > Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact > cranks... > > How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? > Do you know the part number? > I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. > I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the > slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the > chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, > less than ideal solution. > > Thanks - Joel >
Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions.
Campagnolo compacts and also Truvative both offer this combo. Just cuz it ain't shimano or Bontrager....etc.....etc....etc....
Yes! I'm guilty!!! And given my 70s-past, I should know better. I sold out to the dark side.
And yet I still would have enjoyed your retro ride on my old Cinelli... (or would I have been disqualified because I put a Shimano brake up front so it would stop?).
--Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions.
Campagnolo compacts and also Truvative both offer this combo. Just cuz it ain't shimano or Bontrager....etc.....etc....etc....
Still,
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at least having an optional hanger (and one that, with a *lot* of effort, can be modified further) is better than the old brazed-on hangers that used to be popular on many steel frames. Those were *not* fun sometimes! When people would order custom frames, we'd try to talk them out of them, but didn't matter, they wanted as many brazed-on goodies as possible.
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote: > > Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact > > cranks... > > > > How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? > > Do you know the part number? > > I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. > > I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file > > the > > slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the > > chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the > > hanger, > > less than ideal solution. > > > > Thanks - Joel > > Joel: Any Trek/Klein/LeMond/Fisher dealer can order one of those > brackets > for you. They run about $10. If you run into grief, let me know and I > can > have the inside rep for your area make sure your local shop gets one. > > --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles > www.ChainReactionBicycles.com > > > "Joel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Peter, > > > > I saw this on one of your posts: > > > > Trek now makes a longer, replaceable front der hanger for compact > > cranks... > > > > How do I order one? Should I call Trek or talk to the LBS? > > Do you know the part number? > > I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. > > I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file > > the > > slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the > > chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the > > hanger, > > less than ideal solution. > > > > Thanks - Joel > >
Thanks Mike BUT we had a customer that had a compact of 48/34 and the 'compact' front der hanger of the 5900 wasn't log enough to get the front der low enough...(?) Had to use a triple FD, longer arms, lower front der-works but....
... Non-standard implementations (48/34 isn't a stock configuration on any "road" crank that I know of) will always require creative solutions.
Campagnolo compacts and also Truvative both offer this combo. Just cuz it ain't shimano or Bontrager....etc.....etc....etc....
If its not made in Japan, why bother with it?
-- Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
Thanks Tom, but lots of stuff is made in China and Taiwan, not Japan. A lot of shimano is made in Malaysia as well....I have lived in Japan, for 3 years and Japan has a lot going for it but 'inventors', they are not. They copy, in many cases, improve but innovation, ala something actually 'new' does not come from this highly industrialized nation. Italy, on the other had, has had individuals that have invented much...I guess I should start with Tullio Campagnolo. If not for Tullio, I'm guessing shimano would be making only fishing reels. Something else they copied, improved.
I just installed some compact cranks on my Trek 5500. I can't get the front der low enough. I figure I will need to file the slot in hanger 1/8" lower to get the der cage within 3mm of the chainring. Then the der won't be making full contact with the hanger, less than ideal solution.
Different front derailleurs will hang lower in the same slot. A current Campy hangs lower than an IRD Compact or Shimano road.
