Phelps' 200 Back

"Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well, no one has brought this up. Figured that I may as well:

1 Phelps, Michael 18 North Baltimore- 1:55.30
27.93 57.09 (29.16)
1:26.54 (29.45) 1:55.30 (28.76)

That's 0.15 sec off Aaron Peirsol's WR. 2nd fastest time in history.

And this is an "off" event.

Go figure. At a fairly low key meet (a US "Spring" nationals held in the middle of the NCAA
season, with a decidedly "B" roster of competitors). Peirsol, with his U Texas team, wasn't
even there.

Hey hey, don't go mentioning Texas, Larry, unless you fully understand the consequinces. By the way,
Texas wasn't there because it was duck huntin season.

On 13 Feb 2004 05:29:28 GMT, [email hidden]

(Larry Weisenthal) said:

Well, no one has brought this up. Figured that I may as well:

1 Phelps, Michael 18 North Baltimore- 1:55.30
27.93 57.09 (29.16)
1:26.54 (29.45) 1:55.30 (28.76)

That's 0.15 sec off Aaron Peirsol's WR. 2nd fastest time in history.

There was a long NY times article on Phelps' expectations for winning X number of medals at the
Olympics, possibly surpassing Spitz, etc. I don't know why he and his coach don't quash this, but
maybe they thrive on added pressure

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

"Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well, no one has brought this up. Figured that I may as well:

1 Phelps, Michael 18 North Baltimore- 1:55.30
27.93 57.09 (29.16)
1:26.54 (29.45) 1:55.30 (28.76)

That's 0.15 sec off Aaron Peirsol's WR. 2nd fastest time in history.

And this is an "off" event.

Go figure. At a fairly low key meet (a US "Spring" nationals held in the middle of the NCAA
season, with a decidedly "B" roster of competitors). Peirsol, with his U Texas team, wasn't
even there.

Speaking of "Nationals" USA Swimming has a nice article written about my team:

Carvin, Mission Viejo shine on Day 4 of Nationals Just as swimmers from the North Baltimore Aquatic
Club established their dominance in the 400m IM Thursday night, swimmers from Mission Viejo have put
quite a stranglehold on the middle distance and distance events this week at the ConocoPhillips
Spring National Championships. Mission Viejo was dominant in Thursday night’s finals, with Sachiko
Yamada and Chad Carvin taking the women’s and men’s 400m free, with times of 4:09.37 and 3:48.92
respectively.

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What's really cool is that out 5AM masters workout (that i go to) shares the LCM pool with those
guys, our national team. Plenty of very fine stroke technique to watch first hand 😄 Chad Carvin,
Larsen Jensen, Justin Mortimer and company.

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Plenty of very fine stroke

technique to watch first hand 😄 Chad Carvin, Larsen Jensen, Justin Mortimer and company.<<

Larsen Jensen is the present and future of US distance swimming. Not too shabby 7:53 800 at US
Nationals (not Thorpian, but he'll continue to get better).

He and Eric Vendt have VERY long strokes (especially for their height) and have very strong,
continuous, vigorous 6 beat kicks. They are perfectly symmetrical, non-lopers.

Here's a clip I took of Jensen swimming at the Southern California Winter Invitational in Commerce,
CA in Dec. 2002.

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Chad Carvin is, in contrast to Jensen, a very pronounced loper. I've taken clips of him also, and
I'll post one this weekend.

Sachiko Yamada trains mostly in Japan, but has taken training trips to the USA in which she trains
for short periods of time at Mission Viejo. I saw her set the Japanese national record for the 1500
at the Mission Viejo Swim Meet of Champions a few years back. She broke that record just this week
at US Spring(Winter) nationals in Orlando.

- Larry

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Here's a clip I took of Jensen swimming at the Southern California Winter Invitational in
Commerce, CA in Dec. 2002.

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Broken link.

Don

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Plenty of very fine stroke

technique to watch first hand 😄 Chad Carvin, Larsen Jensen, Justin Mortimer and company.<<

Larsen Jensen is the present and future of US distance swimming. Not too shabby 7:53 800 at US
Nationals (not Thorpian, but he'll continue to get better).

He and Eric Vendt have VERY long strokes (especially for their height) and

have

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very strong, continuous, vigorous 6 beat kicks. They are perfectly symmetrical, non-lopers.

Here's a clip I took of Jensen swimming at the Southern California Winter Invitational in
Commerce, CA in Dec. 2002.

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Chad Carvin is, in contrast to Jensen, a very pronounced loper. I've

taken

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clips of him also, and I'll post one this weekend.

Yea, I watch what those two are doing, every chance I get. Trying to learn a thing or two.

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Sachiko Yamada trains mostly in Japan, but has taken training trips to the

USA

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in which she trains for short periods of time at Mission Viejo. I saw her

set

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the Japanese national record for the 1500 at the Mission Viejo Swim Meet

of

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Champions a few years back. She broke that record just this week at US Spring(Winter) nationals in
Orlando.

- Larry

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Here's a clip I took of Jensen swimming at the Southern California Winter Invitational in
Commerce, CA in Dec. 2002.

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Chad Carvin is, in contrast to Jensen, a very pronounced loper. I've taken clips of him also, and
I'll post one this weekend.

Now I'm wishing I would have saved my Tivo copy of last year's Tiburon Mile to tape somewhere.
Carvin, Mortimer, Vendt, Neethling, Chris Thompson, Bennett, Kasey Giteau, and Benko all swam it,
and it would have been interesting to see what adaptations, if any, the elite swimmers were making
when they went from pool to choppy open water situation.

Here are clips of the 3 best US distance swimmers (checked out the links...working).

Jensen and Vendt are long-stroke, strong kicking non-lopers. Chris Thompson is a very tall (>6
inches taller than Vendt) swimmer, with a kick which comes and goes, shorter stroke that Jensen and
Vendt, despite taller stature/longer arms. Also, Thompson is a prominent loper.

I video'd all three clips in person. Vendt and Thompson were from the Janet Evans Invitational at
the USC pool. Jensen was in a short course indoor pool in Commerce, CA.

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What distances are they racing?

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

On 15 Feb 2004 20:14:45 GMT, [email hidden]

(Larry Weisenthal) said:

If memory serves, Thompson was swimming the 800; Vendt the 400; Jensen the 500.

This is encouraging. From reading the coaching interviews in Colwin's Swimming Dynamics, one would
think the US would never again develop any decent distance swimmers. Did they all take place in
2004? I'm renaming the videos, and I like to be accurate.

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Vendt and Jensen keep up those brisk 6 beat kicks the whole way. Thompson's kick waxes and wanes.

I can't really see Thompson's kick. Vendt's kick seems to be a subdued six-beat, Jensen's seems a
bit deeper. But since they're not swimming as fast as a sprinter, one wouldn't expect the kick
cadence to be any faster than the arm stroke cadence.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)