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Following up to Chris Gilbert

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Like the tree, the last one, you have caught the great light we have been getting. Could I suggest
"A Tree" was not the greatest title. "The Tree" or "Tree" would have been much poncier. :-)
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Flippin eck. Talk about thread drift. I only went away for a couple of days

;-)

Chris

Reid wrote

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Could I suggest "A Tree" was not the greatest title. "The Tree" or "Tree" would have been much
poncier. :-)

I do naive ;-)

Chris

Reid said:

Like the tree, the last one, you have caught the great light we have been getting. Could I suggest
"A Tree" was not the greatest title. "The Tree" or "Tree" would have been much poncier. :-)

How about "Contemplation"?

Or "The Death of Light"?

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Chris Gilbert said:

Flippin eck. Talk about thread drift. I only went away for a couple of days

;-)

Chris

It's Mike's fault. Nobody should post to URW while still steamed up about a visit to the Tate
Modern ..... :>😉

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Following up to Paul Saunders

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Quoted message said:

Like the tree, the last one, you have caught the great light we have been getting. Could I
suggest "A Tree" was not the greatest title. "The Tree" or "Tree" would have been much
poncier. :-)

How about "Contemplation"?

Or "The Death of Light"?

"Glass of water"

(think Tate Modern)
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Reid said:

"Glass of water"

(think Tate Modern)

Sorry, does not compute.

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:31:20 +0000, Reid <[email hidden]>

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Following up to Paul Saunders

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Like the tree, the last one, you have caught the great light we have been getting. Could I
suggest "A Tree" was not the greatest title. "The Tree" or "Tree" would have been much
poncier. :-)

How about "Contemplation"?

Or "The Death of Light"?

"Glass of water"

(think Tate Modern)

I remember the Glass of Water! My three daughters and I got it , but my wife did not. Now if YOU
got it, you should be able to say how my wife's education differed from the rest of us. Can you?
<big grin>

Pat

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Following up to Paul Saunders

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Quoted message said:

"Glass of water"

(think Tate Modern)

Sorry, does not compute.

there is a glass of water in Tate Modern (a bit out of your way) called "tree"

apparently its art, IMO its pure bollocks.
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Following up to Pat Bennett

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I remember the Glass of Water! My three daughters and I got it , but my wife did not. Now if YOU
got it, you should be able to say how my wife's education differed from the rest of us. Can you?
<big grin>

No, I didn't get it, could you explain?
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Reid said:

there is a glass of water in Tate Modern (a bit out of your way) called "tree"

Oh I see, that makes a bit more sense.

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apparently its art, IMO its pure bollocks.

Yep. There should be a law against making money out of [censored]. ;-)

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:10:13 +0000, Reid <[email hidden]>

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Following up to Pat Bennett

Quoted message said:

I remember the Glass of Water! My three daughters and I got it , but my wife did not. Now if YOU
got it, you should be able to say how my wife's education differed from the rest of us. Can you?
<big grin>

No, I didn't get it, could you explain?

My wife is the only one who did not receive a Catholic education/indoctrination.

Now if I remember correctly, this "work of art" consisted of a glass of water mounted on the
wall with a tasteful notice underneath which contained, to my wife's eye, a load of drivel about
the glass of water which , despite outward appearances to the contrary, actually had the nature
of a tree.

My daughters and I instantly recognized that the drivel was, in fact, straight out of our
Catholic school religious education. The bread and wine used in the Communion during mass had
been substituted by the "glass of water", and the body and blood of Christ had been substituted
by "the tree".

I think that anyone who suffered the "benefit" of a Roman Catholic education would recognize the
analogy instantly, and see the work as a comment on the gobbledegook of the religious doctrine.

I remember laughing uproariously when seeing the piece for the first time and recognizing the
analogy - it was years and years ago - and I also remember my wife's blank incomprehension!

Pat

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Following up to Paul Saunders

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Glass of water"

(think Tate Modern)

Sorry, does not compute.

there is a glass of water in Tate Modern (a bit out of your way) called "tree"

apparently its art, IMO its pure bollocks.

Presumably - not having seen it - the idea is 'water of life' = 'tree of life'?
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Quoted message said:

Reid said:

there is a glass of water in Tate Modern (a bit out of your way) called "tree"

Oh I see, that makes a bit more sense.

Quoted message said:

apparently its art, IMO its pure bollocks.

Yep. There should be a law against making money out of [censored]. ;-)

<sorry, but you've got me going here!>

The best bit about Tate Modern (I allways refer to it as 'Tate [censored]'😉, is that it's got the rubbish
out of the proper Tate Gallery. Also, when people say to me how wonderfull the Millenium Bridge is
because it takes you to the Tate Modern, I respond that it's wonderfull because it takes you _away_
from the Tate Modern! I also swear that next time I find myself down that way, I'll call into the
Tate [censored] and say at the reception 'I understand there's an art gallery around here, I wonder if you
could direct me to it?', and when they say 'it's here', walk out laughing!

<with superhuman effort, I've managed to unclench my teeth and restrain myself from writing more
about modern 'art' - for now!>

Regards: Jim Ford

Following up to Pat Bennett

Quoted message said:

My wife is the only one who did not receive a Catholic education/indoctrination.

Now if I remember correctly, this "work of art" consisted of a glass of water mounted on the
wall with a tasteful notice underneath which contained, to my wife's eye, a load of drivel about
the glass of water which , despite outward appearances to the contrary, actually had the nature
of a tree.

that's what I saw.

Quoted message said:

My daughters and I instantly recognized that the drivel was, in fact, straight out of our
Catholic school religious education. The bread and wine used in the Communion during mass had
been substituted by the "glass of water", and the body and blood of Christ had been substituted
by "the tree".

Right, that makes some sense and is reasonably clever. Do you feel the same as me that it is rather
slight and while (if understood) it has some interest, its not enough to justify it being revered in
a gallery?
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Following up to Jim Ford

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The best bit about Tate Modern (I allways refer to it as 'Tate [censored]'😉, is that it's got the rubbish
out of the proper Tate Gallery. Also, when people say to me how wonderfull the Millenium Bridge is
because it takes you to the Tate Modern, I respond that it's wonderfull because it takes you _away_
from the Tate Modern!

I like the space as they call it, but either i'm a stupid philistines or most of the stuff in it is
trivial. The Guggenheim is better IMO but even when good the stuff is just mildly interesting, not
worth the huge fuss made about it. Hey! We have never done walking round galleries before!
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 18:20:01 +0000, Reid <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Following up to Pat Bennett

Quoted message said:

My wife is the only one who did not receive a Catholic education/indoctrination.

Now if I remember correctly, this "work of art" consisted of a glass of water mounted on the
wall with a tasteful notice underneath which contained, to my wife's eye, a load of drivel about
the glass of water which , despite outward appearances to the contrary, actually had the nature
of a tree.

that's what I saw.

Quoted message said:

My daughters and I instantly recognized that the drivel was, in fact, straight out of our
Catholic school religious education. The bread and wine used in the Communion during mass had
been substituted by the "glass of water", and the body and blood of Christ had been substituted
by "the tree".

Right, that makes some sense and is reasonably clever. Do you feel the same as me that it is rather
slight and while (if understood) it has some interest, its not enough to justify it being revered
in a gallery?

I agree entirely. I don't think that it is a work of art, rather an in-joke (and, I think, a very
good one) for Roman Catholics!

We saw it in Liverpool a long time ago - is it still displayed in the Tate Modern collection?

Pat

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Pat Bennett said:

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its not enough to justify it being revered in a gallery?

No, maybe on a webpage.

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I agree entirely. I don't think that it is a work of art, rather an in-joke

Don't they have comedy programmes for jokes?

Humour? Yes. Art? Gimme a break...

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Following up to Pat Bennett

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I agree entirely. I don't think that it is a work of art, rather an in-joke (and, I think, a very
good one) for Roman Catholics!

We saw it in Liverpool a long time ago - is it still displayed in the Tate Modern collection?

It was a couple of months ago, although it could have been a fake? :-)
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