Pie and chips

"Stuart Pedazzo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >A commercial for Geico
Insurance here in the states has a gecko with

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an Australian accent referring to "pie and chips". I have never heard
of pie and chips. I did a Google search for a recipe but all I get is
a bunch of references to pie and chips being mentioned in stories or
restaurant reviews. (Do Aussies really call the restaurants chippies?)

As far as I can tell it is similar to Shepards' Pie, a pastry shell
filled with meat in gravy (and maybe some veggies) topped with mashed
potatoes.

Can anyone provide a real recipe for authentic Australian Pie and
Chips? Otherwise I am going to have to book a flight to Oz and check
out a chippie myself!

Believe me, Stuart, that gecko isn't an Australian. He is a genuine London
Cockney, probably from the East End. I'm from London and I love those
commercials, especially the one where he breaks in with, "How about a cup of
tea?" "Lovely." "ow's yer Mum?". That is so typical. Anyway, the
original dish was "pie and mash" - eel pie (!), mashed potatoes and
"liquor". Nowadays, I suppose it could also be steak and kidney pie; of
course, the chips are US french fries.

Dora

"limey" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Believe me, Stuart, that gecko isn't an Australian. He is a genuine

London

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Cockney, probably from the East End. I'm from London and I love those
commercials, especially the one where he breaks in with, "How about a cup

of

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tea?" "Lovely." "ow's yer Mum?". That is so typical.

Quite right Dora. Not an Australian! Definitely London. A "chippie" in the
U.K. is a fish and chip shop......I don't know if that is used in Australia
but may well be.

Pie and chips. Chips of course are known in the U.S. as fries. For the pie
part, make a search of this group for "pie floater". The great Australian
meat pie is a culinary masterpiece! It is similar to other dishes, but is
different enough from any of them to be pure Australian. I don't have my
recipe (from this group) typed up and don't want to bother so just look it
up on r.f.c.

Charlie

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:29:01 -0600, Stuart Pedazzo <[email hidden]>

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A commercial for Geico Insurance here in the states has a gecko with
an Australian accent referring to "pie and chips". I have never heard
of pie and chips. I did a Google search for a recipe but all I get is
a bunch of references to pie and chips being mentioned in stories or
restaurant reviews. (Do Aussies really call the restaurants chippies?)

As far as I can tell it is similar to Shepards' Pie, a pastry shell
filled with meat in gravy (and maybe some veggies) topped with mashed
potatoes.

Can anyone provide a real recipe for authentic Australian Pie and
Chips? Otherwise I am going to have to book a flight to Oz and check
out a chippie myself!

He's not an Aussie, he's a Pommie! But they have pies and chips in
both places. Chips are thick-cut potato fried like frenchfries, but
often crinkle-cut. And a pie is ground beef cooked up in gravy and
baked inside a pastry crust. Meat pies are one of Australia's national
dishes...

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Charles Gifford said:

"limey" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Believe me, Stuart, that gecko isn't an Australian. He is a genuine

London

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Cockney, probably from the East End. I'm from London and I love those
commercials, especially the one where he breaks in with, "How about a cup

of

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tea?" "Lovely." "ow's yer Mum?". That is so typical.

Quite right Dora. Not an Australian! Definitely London. A "chippie" in the
U.K. is a fish and chip shop......I don't know if that is used in Australia
but may well be.

Pie and chips. Chips of course are known in the U.S. as fries. For the pie
part, make a search of this group for "pie floater". The great Australian
meat pie is a culinary masterpiece! It is similar to other dishes, but is
different enough from any of them to be pure Australian. I don't have my
recipe (from this group) typed up and don't want to bother so just look it
up on r.f.c.

Charlie

I think you and Karen areexplaining things very well. I feel I should
add that in Australia "chippie" is the term for a carpenter. Fish 'n
chip shops are sometimes referred to as "fish 'n chipperies", especially
if they have pretensions.

The thing about meat pies is that you eat them out of your hand, often
at sporting events. Doing this without getting the contents (which may
even include a little meat) all over your front, is a definite skill.
And whether to have the tomato sauce on top or under the crust is
something which has rent friendhships asunder....

Christine

Old Mother Ashby <[email hidden]> wrote in
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The thing about meat pies is that you eat them out of your hand, often
at sporting events. Doing this without getting the contents (which may
even include a little meat) all over your front, is a definite skill.

I rarely eat pies anymore (too fattening!), but I really only eat them at
home - that way I don't have to worry about spilling my food everywhere
in public! When we were kids, Mum would sometimes buy those frozen family
sized pies and we'd have pie, mashed potato and peas for tea - so then
you would use a knife and fork to eat your piece of pie. I bought one of
these last year and Rob and I had this for tea - a sentimental journey,
and I mashed my peas and potatoes together with tomato sauce - still
tastes good <g>

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And whether to have the tomato sauce on top or under the crust is
something which has rent friendhships asunder....

So, which do you do??? I put my sauce on top. I like lots of sauce - my
dad used to say "would you like a little pie with your sauce, Rhonda?".

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Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

"Old Mother Ashby" <[email hidden]> wrote :

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The thing about meat pies is that you eat them out of your hand, often at
sporting events. Doing this without getting the contents (which may even
include a little meat) all over your front, is a definite skill. And
whether to have the tomato sauce on top or under the crust is something
which has rent friendhships asunder....

Christine

Not to mention the fact that the sloppy gravy is usually barely below
boiling point, and inevitably some ends up running down your arm......which
is why I always put the sauce _under_ the crust (lets out some steam, don't
you know)

Richard.

Rhonda Anderson said:

Old Mother Ashby <[email hidden]> wrote in
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The thing about meat pies is that you eat them out of your hand, often
at sporting events. Doing this without getting the contents (which may
even include a little meat) all over your front, is a definite skill.

I rarely eat pies anymore (too fattening!), but I really only eat them at
home - that way I don't have to worry about spilling my food everywhere
in public! When we were kids, Mum would sometimes buy those frozen family
sized pies and we'd have pie, mashed potato and peas for tea - so then
you would use a knife and fork to eat your piece of pie. I bought one of
these last year and Rob and I had this for tea - a sentimental journey,
and I mashed my peas and potatoes together with tomato sauce - still
tastes good <g>

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And whether to have the tomato sauce on top or under the crust is
something which has rent friendhships asunder....

So, which do you do??? I put my sauce on top. I like lots of sauce - my
dad used to say "would you like a little pie with your sauce, Rhonda?".

Well, if I'm out I get them to put it under the crust, but at home I
have it on top because we don't have one of those pointy dispensers, we
just have it straight out of the bottle.

Christine

limey said:

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Can anyone provide a real recipe for authentic Australian Pie and
Chips? Otherwise I am going to have to book a flight to Oz and check
out a chippie myself!

Believe me, Stuart, that gecko isn't an Australian. He is a genuine London
Cockney, probably from the East End. I'm from London and I love those
commercials, especially the one where he breaks in with, "How about a cup of
tea?" "Lovely." "ow's yer Mum?". That is so typical. Anyway, the
original dish was "pie and mash" - eel pie (!), mashed potatoes and
"liquor". Nowadays, I suppose it could also be steak and kidney pie; of
course, the chips are US french fries.

Dora

The typical East End pie in 'pie and mash' is made from minced meat and
a little gravy in a crust. If eels were used in such pies that was a
very long time ago; none of the oldster I know in the East End ever had
eels in a pie. That said, pie and mash places often do serve eels, but
not in a pie.
'Liquor' is the pale or white gravy, studded with parsley, served with
the pie and mash.

On a linguistic note, the pie and mash places in my neighbourhood have
their own way of ordering: 'one and one' means one pie, one order of
mash, 'two and two' means two pies and two mash etc.

"Arri London" wrote in message >

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limey said:

Anyway, the

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original dish was "pie and mash" - eel pie (!), mashed potatoes and
"liquor". Nowadays, I suppose it could also be steak and kidney pie; of
course, the chips are US french fries.

Dora

The typical East End pie in 'pie and mash' is made from minced meat and
a little gravy in a crust. If eels were used in such pies that was a
very long time ago; none of the oldster I know in the East End ever had
eels in a pie.

Well, I said "the original dish", Arri. That *is* a long time ago. We
never ate eels at home, let alone eel pie or jellied eels! :-)

http://www.pieshop.co.uk/about-pie-and-mash.htm#

Dora

Karen AKA Kajikit said:

He's not an Aussie, he's a Pommie! But they have pies and chips in
both places. Chips are thick-cut potato fried like frenchfries, but
often crinkle-cut. And a pie is ground beef cooked up in gravy and
baked inside a pastry crust. Meat pies are one of Australia's national
dishes...

However to try a truly Aussi dish try a Meat pie floater

Start with a bowl of Pea soup. Then take a meat pie (check the nutritional
information, make sure it exceeds 80% of Recommended Daily Allowance for
Cholesterol), and drop it into the center of the soup. It should float
squarely in the middle of the bowl. Then smother it in ketchup, and consume
quickly before it gets cold.

http://www.lard.net/pie1.html

and the recipe for a pie is

http://www.mitsu4wdclubqld.org/tips/kampkitch/aussie_meat_pie.htm

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"Arri London" wrote in message >

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Anyway, the

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original dish was "pie and mash" - eel pie (!), mashed potatoes and
"liquor". Nowadays, I suppose it could also be steak and kidney pie; of
course, the chips are US french fries.

Dora

The typical East End pie in 'pie and mash' is made from minced meat and
a little gravy in a crust. If eels were used in such pies that was a
very long time ago; none of the oldster I know in the East End ever had
eels in a pie.

Well, I said "the original dish", Arri. That *is* a long time ago. We
never ate eels at home, let alone eel pie or jellied eels! :-)

http://www.pieshop.co.uk/about-pie-and-mash.htm#

Pie pie pie!!!
http://www.squarepie.com/

I've tried this place many times and it's always fabulous. No chips,
just Mash, Gravy and peas (mushy if you wish).

Doc
(No Eels please)