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  1. Hi,

    This chap bought a MX Leader, which he got after waiting for 1.5 years:
    he was sent a Leader frame (aluminium) twice before receiving the correct
    steel frame.

    He has a problem with his cables: on his frame the derailleur cable stops
    are not mounted on the down tube, as was done with my frame. Every time he
    steers to the right, the derailleur cable hits his brake. Can he do
    something to make this better?

    Pictures of the problem:
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14515
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14514

    Thanks! Derk

  2. Derk said:

    Hi,

    This chap bought a MX Leader, which he got after waiting for 1.5 years:
    he was sent a Leader frame (aluminium) twice before receiving the correct
    steel frame.

    He has a problem with his cables: on his frame the derailleur cable stops
    are not mounted on the down tube, as was done with my frame. Every time he
    steers to the right, the derailleur cable hits his brake. Can he do
    something to make this better?

    Pictures of the problem:
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14515
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14514

    Thanks! Derk

    Campagnolo.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu

  3. Derk said:

    Hi,

    This chap bought a MX Leader, which he got after waiting for 1.5
    years: he was sent a Leader frame (aluminium) twice before receiving
    the correct steel frame.

    He has a problem with his cables: on his frame the derailleur cable
    stops are not mounted on the down tube, as was done with my frame.
    Every time he steers to the right, the derailleur cable hits his
    brake. Can he do something to make this better?

    Pictures of the problem:
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14515
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14514

    Thanks! Derk


    The easiest thing to do would be to exchange the cable into the 'other'
    adjuster. In other words, the front change cable/housing goes to the right
    adjuster and the rear change cable/housing goes to the left adjuster. Then
    cross the cables before they enter the cable guide underneath the bottom
    bracket.

  4. Derk said:

    Hi,

    This chap bought a MX Leader, which he got after waiting for 1.5 years:
    he was sent a Leader frame (aluminium) twice before receiving the correct
    steel frame.

    He has a problem with his cables: on his frame the derailleur cable stops
    are not mounted on the down tube, as was done with my frame. Every time he
    steers to the right, the derailleur cable hits his brake. Can he do
    something to make this better?

    Pictures of the problem:
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14515
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14514

    Thanks! Derk

    have your "friend"

    1. cross the cables - keep right side with right side, but cross inside
    of each other in front of the head tube.
    2. use proper 4mm non-compressable gear cable housing. the spiral stuff
    shown there will lead to poor shifting. make sure "they" use proper
    shimano sealed ferrules to keep the muck out and keep shifting reliable
    over time.
    3. adjust the brake cable so the adjuster is much lower. for a new
    bike, that's way out.

    when you "friend" has done all this, the cable will still touch on
    turning left, but not at a point ever encountered in normal riding.

  5. Derk said:

    Hi,

    This chap bought a MX Leader, which he got after waiting for 1.5 years:
    he was sent a Leader frame (aluminium) twice before receiving the correct
    steel frame.

    He has a problem with his cables: on his frame the derailleur cable stops
    are not mounted on the down tube, as was done with my frame. Every time he
    steers to the right, the derailleur cable hits his brake. Can he do
    something to make this better?

    Pictures of the problem:
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14515
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14514

    I don't think crossing the cables around would do enough to fix the
    problem. The real trouble is due to those barrel adjusters, which are
    really in the way.

    Two solutions:

    1) Replace the barrel adjusters with some that work in the middle of the
    cable, and use just some sort of washer at the stops. That, along with
    maybe the cross-over cable trick perhaps, may work. But crossing the
    cables may not be possible, depending on the shape of the downtube.

    2) Get strap-on cable stops that attach to the downtube, and use them
    instead of the brazed-on fittings. The set-up he has is, frankly, a mess.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | You will say Christ saith this and the apostles say this; but
    _`\(,_ | what canst thou say? -- George Fox.
    (_)/ (_) |

  6. Dave Thompson said:
    Derk said:

    Hi,

    This chap bought a MX Leader, which he got after waiting for 1.5
    years: he was sent a Leader frame (aluminium) twice before receiving
    the correct steel frame.

    He has a problem with his cables: on his frame the derailleur cable
    stops are not mounted on the down tube, as was done with my frame.
    Every time he steers to the right, the derailleur cable hits his
    brake. Can he do something to make this better?

    Pictures of the problem:
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14515
    http://www.dk-forenserver.de/tour/attachment.php?attachmentid=14514

    Thanks! Derk


    The easiest thing to do would be to exchange the cable into the
    'other' adjuster. In other words, the front change cable/housing goes
    to the right adjuster and the rear change cable/housing goes to the
    left adjuster. Then cross the cables before they enter the cable
    guide underneath the bottom bracket.


    In addition to crossing the cables (this works *very* well in a situation
    such as this) he can set the barrel adjuster so when the cables have the
    proper tension on them, the adjusters are screwed all the way in.

  7. Derk<< Every time he

    Quoted message said:

    steers to the right, the derailleur cable hits his brake. Can he do
    something to make this better? >><BR><BR>

    I answer-Very common with these brakes. A DA has longer arms and is more outta
    the way. Also make sure the der cables are rpetty long, so that they bend away,
    towards the center of the frame and away from the brake caliper arm.

    A Merckx with shimano, I hear it crying from here!!

    ;-lo

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  8. Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:

    Everybody thank you all for your help. This German was desperate and I
    couldn't stand to see the MXL suffering any longer.

    Quoted message said:

    A Merckx with shimano, I hear it crying from here!!


    Maybe this is why his setup doesn't work: the Merckx is resisting!

    Greets, Derk

  9. As I mentioned to Derk, shimano ultegra brake calipers have arms that bend
    toward the centerline of the frame. Either a DA front caliper or longish der
    housing will help to keep the right side der housing away-ish from the brake
    arm. Pisspoirr design of the caliper, IMO, but ya know doesn't really care.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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