Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:Bob Pastorio said:Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:Matti Narkia wrote:
>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:49:33 GMT in article <[email hidden]>
>"Dr. Andrew B. Chung,
>MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Nigel wrote:
>>
>>>I'm looking for peer reviewed references here.
>>
>>You'll have to wait.
>
>And don't hold your breath while waiting.
Correct.
Things take longer when things are truly not-for-profit.
<foaming-at-the-mouth hissing snipped>
Here's what Chung snipped: "Spoken like someone who has never actually done anything on a not-for-
profit basis. Another Chung ringing content-free overview, like "You can lead an untruthful horse to
water but you can't grow truthful moss on a rock."
"But that wasn't the subject. The issue was "peer reviewed references" for the silly 2PoundDiet.
Like science instead of the bragging and spamming of a quack. None available? What a shock."
Quoted message said:No one is any hurry because no one will make any money from the 2PD approach.
"So since there's no *direct* profit from the website, that says Chung's assertion that all revenues
from it will go to charities is a lie on the face of it. And, secondarily, that whole non-profit
evasion is merely a way to justify avoiding the scrutiny of real scientists."
Poor Chung has to snip all the stuff he can't answer.
Quoted message said:The 2PD approach is to Pastorio as Noah's Ark was to those who mocked Noah while the Ark was
being built.
Might be interesting for Chung to offer some proof that the flood even happened. You know, from a
good archaeological source. From some physical evidence not just his "faith." From something other
than the various myths of the middle east.
Couldn't be enough water on earth to cover it completely to a height of 7,000 feet above the normal
sea level (the estimated height of where the ark loonies say it landed) as would be necessary for
the story to be literally true. And all the population of land animals and all humans came from the
ones on the ark. Only problem is that genetic analysis says that it isn't possible that all lions
came from two. And all elephants came from two. And all the varieties of snakes came from two. And
all humans came from their small contingent.
And what about the kangaroo and platypus from Australia? And what about llamas and alpacas from
South America? And what about written language in China that goes back, unbroken, several thousand
years before Noah and up to the present?
Quoted message said:Picture those folks saying to Noah *before* the flood:
Here's some of the "thinking" that goes into the whole flood myth: answering-answering-Open ↗
islam.org.uk/Shamoun/noahs_ark.htm
"Two of every kind of land animal entered the ark, including those animals (for example, dinosaurs)
that have become extinct in the millennia following the Flood.
"After being installed in their respective "rooms" in the ark, and after a good meal, most of them
probably spent most of the Flood year in a state of hibernation."
Here's a more knowledgeable assessment, if equally credulous: flood-myth.comark.htmOpen ↗
"That would be longer than any modern ocean vessel built before 1858 and more than twice as long as
the longest barges used in Egypt to transport obelisks. Wood boats much longer than 200 feet leak
excessively. It is therefore very unlikely that Noah's barge was 450 feet long."
Here's one that sounds like Chung could have written it: noahsarksearch.comdavedeal.htmOpen ↗
"Ararat, by the way was not named Ararat until the middle ages (approximately 1105). It is named
Agri Dagi (painful mountain) and is a classic volcano which last erupted in the mid-1800s. There is
the possibility that the mountain was not even a mountain (at least to 15,000 feet altitude) at the
flood's end."
More fanatical "archaeology" here: noahsark-naxuan.com1.htmOpen ↗
And let's hear from the Mt. Ararat contingent:
parentcompany.comsfna2.htmOpen ↗
According to this flaky wacko, there was wooden evidence there on Ararat in 1856. Never mind the one
on the other mountain where the other bozos say there's an ark and it's the real deal.
Here's a real beauty. Writer has Noah and his kin building a wooden ship with hand tools, that
displaces 22,000 tons. Lots of wonderful calculations. Hilarious.
biblestudy.orgsizeark.htmlOpen ↗
Love this one: geocities.comnoahsreedshipOpen ↗
Says the ark was really a reed ship.
These are wonderful examples of wackos trying desperately to make reality fit their conceptions.
Labored "explanations" and far-fetched "analyses" to force conjecture to fit a vague biblical
description.
"On a mountain in Turkey not far from Mt Ararat (the Biblical Ark was said to have landed, or at
least rested on Mt Ararat) is to be found a giant boat-shaped formation preserved in petrified mud.
"Although no material remains existed within the formation..."
So Noah sends a pigeon out and it comes back with an olive branch. So the water wasn't deeper than
an olive tree but it killed all the humans. And the olive tree lived after being under water for the
better part of a year.
The bible says the water rose 15 cubits and covered the mountains. A cubit is the distance from
fingertips to elbow and ranges from about 17 inches to 24 inches, depending on the size of the guy
measuring. The most 15 cubits can be is 30 feet. Not much of a flood.
And then, when the waters had subsided, Noah sacrificed one of each of the clean animals. Kept
them alive for a year in a boat that must have smelled like Chung's integrity and then kills a
bunch of them.
End of story.
Quoted message said:"You crazy old man.
You've never built a boat before, how do you know it will float?
And being that there hasn't been any water around here for years, how are you going to ever prove
it is even seaworthy?
Plenty of water. Hint: Tigris, Euphrates.
Might want to see what Gilgamesh had to say about a flood a long time before Genesis was written.
Ancient Babylonian myth.
Quoted message said:May God add His Blessing to the retelling of this Biblical story.
What a wonderfully empty thing to say.
Quoted message said:And may He help you be a better steward of your health.
Better than what, I wonder. Since there's no way I'd ever consider doing med biz with Chung, there's
no way he knows what the state of my health is. Or why it is what it is. Or how much better it could
be. More of Chung's self-proclaimed and often disproved "truth discernment" in action.
More emptiness from the fraud and quack.
Pastorio
