Points, please?

Way too many. <G>

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Quoted message said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Hey, lady, I want facts, not editorial comments! (G)

Chopping the chocolate uses some activity points, no? I tend to beat my egg whites by hand, also.

Laura said:

Way too many. <G>

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Do you REALLY want to know? You didn't specify how many servings ... this is what
mastercook spit out at me for the entire recipe (1 serving - just in case you feel
like eating all yourself):

3031 calories/ 239 g fat / 23 g fiber = 75.94 US points

Yikes, 239 grams of fat seems outrageous to me! If you cut it into 16 servings, then it comes out to
189cal/15fat/1fiber = 4.83 US points. Does that sound better?

Joyce

Fred said:

Hey, lady, I want facts, not editorial comments! (G)

Chopping the chocolate uses some activity points, no? I tend to beat my egg whites by hand, also.

Laura said:

Way too many. <G>

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Well, I DID want to know until I KNEW! (G)

Yup, I was hoping Joyce and ol' MasterCook would come through. (I almost said ol' Joyce and
Master Cook!!!!)

I did not determine serving size - it bakes in a 9" springform pan but the recipe does not provide
serving info. ONE sounds good! (G)

THANKS.

Joyce said:

Do you REALLY want to know? You didn't specify how many servings ... this is what mastercook spit
out at me for the entire recipe (1 serving - just in case you feel like eating all yourself):

3031 calories/ 239 g fat / 23 g fiber = 75.94 US points

Yikes, 239 grams of fat seems outrageous to me! If you cut it into 16 servings, then it comes out
to 189cal/15fat/1fiber = 4.83 US points. Does that sound better?

Joyce

Fred said:

Hey, lady, I want facts, not editorial comments! (G)

Chopping the chocolate uses some activity points, no? I tend to beat my egg whites by hand, also.

Laura said:

Way too many. <G>

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> 5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
> 2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
> 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>
> The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Oh please, you aren't going to EAT this are you???

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Just off the top of my head, the size of a 1/16th serving of this bomb has to be about the size of a
small egg.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Do you REALLY want to know? You didn't specify how many servings ... this

is what

Quoted message said:

mastercook spit out at me for the entire recipe (1 serving - just in case

you feel

Quoted message said:

like eating all yourself):

3031 calories/ 239 g fat / 23 g fiber = 75.94 US points

Yikes, 239 grams of fat seems outrageous to me! If you cut it into 16

servings,

Quoted message said:

then it comes out to 189cal/15fat/1fiber = 4.83 US points. Does that

sound

Quoted message said:

better?

Joyce

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:44:35 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hey, lady, I want facts, not editorial comments! (G)

Chopping the chocolate uses some activity points, no? I tend to beat my egg whites by hand, also.

Laura said:

Way too many. <G>

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> 5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter,
> softened
> 2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
> 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>
> The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their listeners in
the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.

Fred said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Prairie Roots
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No, serve it to guests or bring to potluck (G)

Yes, I would have SOME if I actually baked it. It does get baked - does that cut down the
points? (G)

Lesanne said:

Oh please, you aren't going to EAT this are you???

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend sent
me the link.

Prairie Roots said:

It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their listeners
in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.

Fred said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Prairie Roots
232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not. And I
know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a professional
Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for the Evangelical
Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have relatives in Seattle. Not
so much research as connecting the dots.

Fred said:

Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend sent
me the link.

Prairie Roots said:

It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their listeners
in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.

Fred said:

5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
1/2 cup all-purpose flour

The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Prairie Roots
232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Prairie Roots
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I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)

You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it is
quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We meet
monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast today but since
I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at least that is the
plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for an orchard ladder.

So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions like
Carmina Burana.

Prairie Roots said:

Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not. And I
know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for the
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have relatives in
Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.

Fred said:

Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend
sent me the link.

Prairie Roots said:

It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their listeners
in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>
>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)

Prairie Roots
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Prairie Roots
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I say "professional" to distinguish myself from the practitioners. <G> You're more apt to find me at
home on Sunday mornings than in a pew. There are probably more professional Lutherans at PLU than
practitioners. At least one of them, though, is a professonal Catholic.

I don't stay so connected to Seattle that I receive the morning weather reports. Today though I
think it's nicer here than there. The temp's already 46F and the sun is shining.

I live for choral music. It's opera that's on my least favorite list. A couple of weeks ago, I
attended a Chanticleer concert (male a capella group out of San Francisco) and was moved to tears
more than a few times. There's something about the unmiked human voice as instrument that just
clicks with me. I love how singing feels in the body. Nathalie probably understands.

Organ music, bluegrass music, and accordion music are high on my list of favorites as well.

Breakfast with friends sounds quite a lovely way to spend a dreary morning. Enjoy your excursion to
Home Depot.

Fred said:

I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)

You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it is
quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We meet
monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast today but
since I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at least that is
the plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for an orchard ladder.

So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions like
Carmina Burana.

Prairie Roots said:

Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not. And I
know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for the
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have relatives in
Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.

Fred said:

Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend
sent me the link.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:49:33 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their
>listeners in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.
>
>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter, softened
>>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>>
>>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)
>
>Prairie Roots
>232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

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Oh yes I do understand! We 're singing a passion concert at Easter, with beautiful choral music from
Brahms, Liszt and Fauré. And then there will be Brahms' German requiem in May... one of the most
beautiful things I 've ever heard and sung in my life. And the Carmina Burana next year, Fred! I
love opera too, especially Verdi. And besides that I love jazz, blues, rock... a little bit of
everything in fact. I couldn't imagine my life without music.
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/101.1/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
134.1/101.2/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds RAFL 105.3/101.4/96 Kg
134/1.102/212 lbs "Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I say "professional" to distinguish myself from the practitioners. <G> You're more apt to find me
at home on Sunday mornings than in a pew. There are probably more professional Lutherans at PLU
than practitioners. At least one of them, though, is a professonal Catholic.

I don't stay so connected to Seattle that I receive the morning weather reports. Today though I
think it's nicer here than there. The temp's already 46F and the sun is shining.

I live for choral music. It's opera that's on my least favorite list. A couple of weeks ago, I
attended a Chanticleer concert (male a capella group out of San Francisco) and was moved to tears
more than a few times. There's something about the unmiked human voice as instrument that just
clicks with me. I love how singing feels in the body. Nathalie probably understands.

Organ music, bluegrass music, and accordion music are high on my list of favorites as well.

Breakfast with friends sounds quite a lovely way to spend a dreary morning. Enjoy your excursion
to Home Depot.

Fred said:

I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)

You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it is
quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We meet
monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast today but
since I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at least that
is the plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for an orchard
ladder.

So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions like
Carmina Burana.

Prairie Roots said:

Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not. And
I know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for
the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have
relatives in Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:32:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend
>sent me the link.
>
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:49:33 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their
>>listeners in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.
>>
>>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter,
>>>softened
>>>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>>>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>>>
>>>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)
>>
>>Prairie Roots
>>232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Prairie Roots
232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Prairie Roots
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I see how you defined it. Well, soon you will be able to pedal on sunday mornings.

I pass Seattle Pacific University which I think is also some denominational school on many of my
bike rides. It is on a nice loop.

Drizzling as I came home. Not sure that the mountains are much better. There was suppose to be sun
this afternoon but I think that may not come to pass. I should start stripping the bathroom
woodwork but ....

I like the overall pomp, scenery, etc of opera but their themes can be a bit, well, over the top.

We discussed travel and cats and only a little bit of computers this time. No ladder of the type I
need. Oh, well, I was not going to prune today anyway.

Prairie Roots said:

I say "professional" to distinguish myself from the practitioners. <G> You're more apt to find me
at home on Sunday mornings than in a pew. There are probably more professional Lutherans at PLU
than practitioners. At least one of them, though, is a professonal Catholic.

I don't stay so connected to Seattle that I receive the morning weather reports. Today though I
think it's nicer here than there. The temp's already 46F and the sun is shining.

I live for choral music. It's opera that's on my least favorite list. A couple of weeks ago, I
attended a Chanticleer concert (male a capella group out of San Francisco) and was moved to tears
more than a few times. There's something about the unmiked human voice as instrument that just
clicks with me. I love how singing feels in the body. Nathalie probably understands.

Organ music, bluegrass music, and accordion music are high on my list of favorites as well.

Breakfast with friends sounds quite a lovely way to spend a dreary morning. Enjoy your excursion to
Home Depot.

Fred said:

I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)

You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it is
quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We meet
monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast today but
since I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at least that is
the plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for an orchard ladder.

So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions like
Carmina Burana.

Prairie Roots said:

Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not. And I
know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for
the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have
relatives in Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:32:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend
>sent me the link.
>
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:49:33 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their
>>listeners in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.
>>
>>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter,
>>>softened
>>>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>>>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>>>
>>>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)
>>
>>Prairie Roots
>>232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Prairie Roots
232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Prairie Roots
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Ah, the German Requiem is a good one but I particularly like Brahms. I think I heard Mendelsohn's St
Matthew (John??) and once was more than enough!

I'm seeing/hearing Carmina in April. I have about 3 different versions in the car (G)

Nathalie W said:

Oh yes I do understand! We 're singing a passion concert at Easter, with beautiful choral music
from Brahms, Liszt and Fauré. And then there will be Brahms' German requiem in May... one of the
most beautiful things I 've ever heard and sung in my life. And the Carmina Burana next year, Fred!
I love opera too, especially Verdi. And besides that I love jazz, blues, rock... a little bit of
everything in fact. I couldn't imagine my life without music.

I'm home from the bike shop just long enough to pick up my checkbook. They charge extra for
credit cards.

On my drives around town, I thought of a Fred-like way to describe my stance with the church: I'm
Lutheran by PROfession not CONfession.

Oh, I wondered what you were going to do with an orchard ladder. No Washington Delicious
apple-picking?

I like just about anyone's Requiem: Mozart, Faure, Rachmaninoff...

Listened to Rossini's L'Italiana in Algeri on the Chevron Texaco opera broadcast this afternoon. The
big number at the end of the 1st act was a show stopper. Vocal gymnastics. Exquisite.

I'm getting a Bianchi Auto-Milano. Full details later. Gotta run.

Fred said:

I see how you defined it. Well, soon you will be able to pedal on sunday mornings.

I pass Seattle Pacific University which I think is also some denominational school on many of my
bike rides. It is on a nice loop.

Drizzling as I came home. Not sure that the mountains are much better. There was suppose to be sun
this afternoon but I think that may not come to pass. I should start stripping the bathroom
woodwork but ....

I like the overall pomp, scenery, etc of opera but their themes can be a bit, well, over the top.

We discussed travel and cats and only a little bit of computers this time. No ladder of the type I
need. Oh, well, I was not going to prune today anyway.

Prairie Roots said:

I say "professional" to distinguish myself from the practitioners. <G> You're more apt to find me
at home on Sunday mornings than in a pew. There are probably more professional Lutherans at PLU
than practitioners. At least one of them, though, is a professonal Catholic.

I don't stay so connected to Seattle that I receive the morning weather reports. Today though I
think it's nicer here than there. The temp's already 46F and the sun is shining.

I live for choral music. It's opera that's on my least favorite list. A couple of weeks ago, I
attended a Chanticleer concert (male a capella group out of San Francisco) and was moved to tears
more than a few times. There's something about the unmiked human voice as instrument that just
clicks with me. I love how singing feels in the body. Nathalie probably understands.

Organ music, bluegrass music, and accordion music are high on my list of favorites as well.

Breakfast with friends sounds quite a lovely way to spend a dreary morning. Enjoy your excursion
to Home Depot.

Fred said:

I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)

You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it is
quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We meet
monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast today but
since I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at least that
is the plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for an orchard
ladder.

So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions like
Carmina Burana.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:01:24 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not. And
>I know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
>professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for
>the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have
>relatives in Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.
>
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:32:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend
>>sent me the link.
>>
>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:49:33 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their
>>>listeners in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.
>>>
>>>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter,
>>>>softened
>>>>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>>>>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>>>>
>>>>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)
>>>
>>>Prairie Roots
>>>232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
>
>Prairie Roots
>232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Prairie Roots
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Prairie Roots
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Very good - PRO/CON. Very imaginative.

Frankly, there are no Washington DELICIOUS apples (boy, am I risking being sued). I have never been
fond of that particular variety. No, hedges, altho, I do have apple, cherry and plum trees in the
rear yard.

Enjoy the bike. I have not been to any shops in years where they discount for checks or inflate for
credit cards. I use to like that practice.

Prairie Roots said:

I'm home from the bike shop just long enough to pick up my checkbook. They charge extra for
credit cards.

On my drives around town, I thought of a Fred-like way to describe my stance with the church: I'm
Lutheran by PROfession not CONfession.

Oh, I wondered what you were going to do with an orchard ladder. No Washington Delicious
apple-picking?

I like just about anyone's Requiem: Mozart, Faure, Rachmaninoff...

Listened to Rossini's L'Italiana in Algeri on the Chevron Texaco opera broadcast this afternoon.
The big number at the end of the 1st act was a show stopper. Vocal gymnastics. Exquisite.

I'm getting a Bianchi Auto-Milano. Full details later. Gotta run.

Fred said:

I see how you defined it. Well, soon you will be able to pedal on sunday mornings.

I pass Seattle Pacific University which I think is also some denominational school on many of my
bike rides. It is on a nice loop.

Drizzling as I came home. Not sure that the mountains are much better. There was suppose to be sun
this afternoon but I think that may not come to pass. I should start stripping the bathroom
woodwork but ....

I like the overall pomp, scenery, etc of opera but their themes can be a bit, well, over the top.

We discussed travel and cats and only a little bit of computers this time. No ladder of the type I
need. Oh, well, I was not going to prune today anyway.

Prairie Roots said:

I say "professional" to distinguish myself from the practitioners. <G> You're more apt to find me
at home on Sunday mornings than in a pew. There are probably more professional Lutherans at PLU
than practitioners. At least one of them, though, is a professonal Catholic.

I don't stay so connected to Seattle that I receive the morning weather reports. Today though I
think it's nicer here than there. The temp's already 46F and the sun is shining.

I live for choral music. It's opera that's on my least favorite list. A couple of weeks ago, I
attended a Chanticleer concert (male a capella group out of San Francisco) and was moved to tears
more than a few times. There's something about the unmiked human voice as instrument that just
clicks with me. I love how singing feels in the body. Nathalie probably understands.

Organ music, bluegrass music, and accordion music are high on my list of favorites as well.

Breakfast with friends sounds quite a lovely way to spend a dreary morning. Enjoy your excursion
to Home Depot.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:05:12 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)
>
>You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it
>is quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We
>meet monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast today
>but since I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at least
>that is the plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for an
>orchard ladder.
>
>So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions
>like Carmina Burana.
>
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:01:24 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not. And
>>I know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
>>professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for
>>the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have
>>relatives in Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.
>>
>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:32:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A friend
>>>sent me the link.
>>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:49:33 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their
>>>>listeners in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter,
>>>>>softened
>>>>>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>>>>>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>>>>>
>>>>>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)
>>>>
>>>>Prairie Roots
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I share your opinion of the not-very-delicious Delicious apple. In my opinion, the same psychology
was used in naming this apple as was used in naming Greenland and Iceland. They're the opposite of
what their names imply.

My bike was purchased at a small, family owned bike shop. Dad owns the store, his young teenage son
sold me the bike and accessories. I'd have gone to a chain if necessary, but so much more
satisfactory transacting with a small business.

Fred said:

Very good - PRO/CON. Very imaginative.

Frankly, there are no Washington DELICIOUS apples (boy, am I risking being sued). I have never been
fond of that particular variety. No, hedges, altho, I do have apple, cherry and plum trees in the
rear yard.

Enjoy the bike. I have not been to any shops in years where they discount for checks or inflate for
credit cards. I use to like that practice.

Prairie Roots said:

I'm home from the bike shop just long enough to pick up my checkbook. They charge extra for
credit cards.

On my drives around town, I thought of a Fred-like way to describe my stance with the church: I'm
Lutheran by PROfession not CONfession.

Oh, I wondered what you were going to do with an orchard ladder. No Washington Delicious apple-
picking?

I like just about anyone's Requiem: Mozart, Faure, Rachmaninoff...

Listened to Rossini's L'Italiana in Algeri on the Chevron Texaco opera broadcast this afternoon.
The big number at the end of the 1st act was a show stopper. Vocal gymnastics. Exquisite.

I'm getting a Bianchi Auto-Milano. Full details later. Gotta run.

Fred said:

I see how you defined it. Well, soon you will be able to pedal on sunday mornings.

I pass Seattle Pacific University which I think is also some denominational school on many of my
bike rides. It is on a nice loop.

Drizzling as I came home. Not sure that the mountains are much better. There was suppose to be
sun this afternoon but I think that may not come to pass. I should start stripping the bathroom
woodwork but ....

I like the overall pomp, scenery, etc of opera but their themes can be a bit, well, over the top.

We discussed travel and cats and only a little bit of computers this time. No ladder of the type
I need. Oh, well, I was not going to prune today anyway.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:33:03 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I say "professional" to distinguish myself from the practitioners. <G> You're more apt to find
>me at home on Sunday mornings than in a pew. There are probably more professional Lutherans at
>PLU than practitioners. At least one of them, though, is a professonal Catholic.
>
>I don't stay so connected to Seattle that I receive the morning weather reports. Today though I
>think it's nicer here than there. The temp's already 46F and the sun is shining.
>
>I live for choral music. It's opera that's on my least favorite list. A couple of weeks ago, I
>attended a Chanticleer concert (male a capella group out of San Francisco) and was moved to
>tears more than a few times. There's something about the unmiked human voice as instrument that
>just clicks with me. I love how singing feels in the body. Nathalie probably understands.
>
>Organ music, bluegrass music, and accordion music are high on my list of favorites as well.
>
>Breakfast with friends sounds quite a lovely way to spend a dreary morning. Enjoy your excursion
>to Home Depot.
>
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:05:12 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)
>>
>>You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it
>>is quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We
>>meet monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast today
>>but since I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at least
>>that is the plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for an
>>orchard ladder.
>>
>>So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions
>>like Carmina Burana.
>>
>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:01:24 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not.
>>>And I know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
>>>professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house for
>>>the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have
>>>relatives in Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.
>>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:32:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A
>>>>friend sent me the link.
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:49:33 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their
>>>>>listeners in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter,
>>>>>>softened
>>>>>>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>>>>>>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>Prairie Roots
>>>>>232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
>>>
>>>Prairie Roots
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I notice the past-tense "was purchased" (G)

Congratulations. I see a wide variety of colors on various web pages. My bianchi is their 'famous'
celeste green - celedon almost.

Most delicious apples are almost tasteless pulp.

Prairie Roots said:

I share your opinion of the not-very-delicious Delicious apple. In my opinion, the same psychology
was used in naming this apple as was used in naming Greenland and Iceland. They're the opposite of
what their names imply.

My bike was purchased at a small, family owned bike shop. Dad owns the store, his young teenage son
sold me the bike and accessories. I'd have gone to a chain if necessary, but so much more
satisfactory transacting with a small business.

Fred said:

Very good - PRO/CON. Very imaginative.

Frankly, there are no Washington DELICIOUS apples (boy, am I risking being sued). I have never
been fond of that particular variety. No, hedges, altho, I do have apple, cherry and plum trees in
the rear yard.

Enjoy the bike. I have not been to any shops in years where they discount for checks or inflate
for credit cards. I use to like that practice.

Prairie Roots said:

I'm home from the bike shop just long enough to pick up my checkbook. They charge extra for
credit cards.

On my drives around town, I thought of a Fred-like way to describe my stance with the church: I'm
Lutheran by PROfession not CONfession.

Oh, I wondered what you were going to do with an orchard ladder. No Washington Delicious apple-
picking?

I like just about anyone's Requiem: Mozart, Faure, Rachmaninoff...

Listened to Rossini's L'Italiana in Algeri on the Chevron Texaco opera broadcast this afternoon.
The big number at the end of the 1st act was a show stopper. Vocal gymnastics. Exquisite.

I'm getting a Bianchi Auto-Milano. Full details later. Gotta run.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:00:46 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I see how you defined it. Well, soon you will be able to pedal on sunday mornings.
>
>I pass Seattle Pacific University which I think is also some denominational school on many of my
>bike rides. It is on a nice loop.
>
>Drizzling as I came home. Not sure that the mountains are much better. There was suppose to be
>sun this afternoon but I think that may not come to pass. I should start stripping the bathroom
>woodwork but ....
>
>I like the overall pomp, scenery, etc of opera but their themes can be a bit, well, over
>the top.
>
>We discussed travel and cats and only a little bit of computers this time. No ladder of the type
>I need. Oh, well, I was not going to prune today anyway.
>
>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:33:03 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>I say "professional" to distinguish myself from the practitioners. <G> You're more apt to find
>>me at home on Sunday mornings than in a pew. There are probably more professional Lutherans at
>>PLU than practitioners. At least one of them, though, is a professonal Catholic.
>>
>>I don't stay so connected to Seattle that I receive the morning weather reports. Today though I
>>think it's nicer here than there. The temp's already 46F and the sun is shining.
>>
>>I live for choral music. It's opera that's on my least favorite list. A couple of weeks ago, I
>>attended a Chanticleer concert (male a capella group out of San Francisco) and was moved to
>>tears more than a few times. There's something about the unmiked human voice as instrument that
>>just clicks with me. I love how singing feels in the body. Nathalie probably understands.
>>
>>Organ music, bluegrass music, and accordion music are high on my list of favorites as well.
>>
>>Breakfast with friends sounds quite a lovely way to spend a dreary morning. Enjoy your
>>excursion to Home Depot.
>>
>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:05:12 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't think that I've met a PROFESSIONAL Lutheran before. Nice meeting you. (g)
>>>
>>>You do seem to have connections to this little corner of the US. Have your sources told you it
>>>is quite gray and damp here this morning. Having breakfast with bbs (former bbs) friends. We
>>>meet monthly altho, I always accept "weather dependent!" (G) Weather worked for breakfast
>>>today but since I have not been very good with foods lately, I'm going to hold to oatmeal - at
>>>least that is the plan, this half hour before meeting. First, off to Home Depot to check for
>>>an orchard ladder.
>>>
>>>So you are into choral music? That is probably one of my least favorite with some exceptions
>>>like Carmina Burana.
>>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:01:24 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well heck, it's pledge week here as well on every public radio station in town, NPR or not.
>>>>And I know a couple of profs at PLU. It is, after all, Pacific LUTHERAN University, and I'm a
>>>>professional Lutheran. (I'm the managing editor of worship & music at the publishing house
>>>>for the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.) One of our editors lives in Seattle. I have
>>>>relatives in Seattle. Not so much research as connecting the dots.
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:32:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Oh, someone has done some research (G) I did not hear it, well, I did but on the web. A
>>>>>friend sent me the link.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:49:33 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It must be pledge week at KUOW or KPLU. Maybe they're trying to kill off a few of their
>>>>>>listeners in the hopes one of them has bequeathed the station in his will.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:49:40 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>5 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped 12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) unsalted butter,
>>>>>>>softened
>>>>>>>2/3 cup sugar 5 large eggs, separated
>>>>>>>1/2 cup all-purpose flour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The ingredients are from a cake on NPR today (G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Prairie Roots
>>>>>>232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
>>>>
>>>>Prairie Roots
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>>
>>Prairie Roots
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