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Polar HRM: abnormal heart rate readings

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  1. Last year I bought a Polar S720i and the "Polar Power System". These
    works fine on my racing bike (1). However, I just bought another
    bike (2) and installed the wireless Speed sensor on it and used the
    S720i for this bike too (without the Power System). In this setup
    I experience abnormal HR readings, e.g., low values like 30-80 (or
    even 0) while the HR should be > 120. Thereafter I used bike 1
    (with Power System and hence wired speed, cadence, power sensors)
    and the HR shows the right values all the time (no abnormal HR
    readings). I used the same procedure to put the transmitter on in
    both cases (moist the electrodes etc; I've read the Polar FAQ about
    this problem but none of the items seems to apply for this case).

    Is there some way to get the correct HR readings also for setup 2?
    What should I try to solve the problem for bike 2?

  2. "Claus Assmann" <ca+sendmail(no-copies-please)@mine.informatik.uni-kiel.de>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Last year I bought a Polar S720i and the "Polar Power System". These
    works fine on my racing bike (1). However, I just bought another
    bike (2) and installed the wireless Speed sensor on it and used the
    S720i for this bike too (without the Power System). In this setup
    I experience abnormal HR readings, e.g., low values like 30-80 (or
    even 0) while the HR should be > 120. Thereafter I used bike 1
    (with Power System and hence wired speed, cadence, power sensors)
    and the HR shows the right values all the time (no abnormal HR
    readings). I used the same procedure to put the transmitter on in
    both cases (moist the electrodes etc; I've read the Polar FAQ about
    this problem but none of the items seems to apply for this case).

    Is there some way to get the correct HR readings also for setup 2?
    What should I try to solve the problem for bike 2?

    The wired / wireless speed/cadence sensors, presence or absence or power
    sensor shouldn't affect pulse sensing. I assume that you must be using the
    special handlebar mount on the bike with the power system. Where are you
    locating the S720i on the other bike without the power system? Does the
    other bike have anything else electronic on it that might affect pulse
    sensing?

    I'm doing exactly what you are doing with the my Polar S720i on my two bikes
    without any heart rate sensing problems. My only problem has been keeping
    the S720i properly seated in the bracket on the bike with the power sensor.
    This affects only speed/cadence/power and not heart rate sensing.

    BobT

  3. BobT said:

    The wired / wireless speed/cadence sensors, presence or absence or power
    sensor shouldn't affect pulse sensing. I assume that you must be using the
    special handlebar mount on the bike with the power system. Where are you
    locating the S720i on the other bike without the power system? Does the

    On the stem (using the default handlebar mount), so it's rotated by
    90 degrees (it's easier than mounting it on the handlebar due to
    the shift/brake cables). Could that be a problem? IMHO it shouldn't
    as runners wear the receiver on their wrist (right?), so it can be
    in any angle relative to the transmitter.

    Quoted message said:

    other bike have anything else electronic on it that might affect pulse
    sensing?

    No, nothing else.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm doing exactly what you are doing with the my Polar S720i on my two bikes
    without any heart rate sensing problems. My only problem has been keeping
    the S720i properly seated in the bracket on the bike with the power sensor.

    I ran into that problem a few times at the beginning too.

    Thanks for your reply!

  4. "Claus Assmann" <ca+sendmail(no-copies-please)@mine.informatik.uni-kiel.de>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    BobT said:

    The wired / wireless speed/cadence sensors, presence or absence or power
    sensor shouldn't affect pulse sensing. I assume that you must be using
    the
    special handlebar mount on the bike with the power system. Where are you
    locating the S720i on the other bike without the power system? Does the

    On the stem (using the default handlebar mount), so it's rotated by
    90 degrees (it's easier than mounting it on the handlebar due to
    the shift/brake cables). Could that be a problem? IMHO it shouldn't
    as runners wear the receiver on their wrist (right?), so it can be
    in any angle relative to the transmitter.

    Quoted message said:

    other bike have anything else electronic on it that might affect pulse
    sensing?

    No, nothing else.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm doing exactly what you are doing with the my Polar S720i on my two
    bikes
    without any heart rate sensing problems. My only problem has been
    keeping
    the S720i properly seated in the bracket on the bike with the power
    sensor.

    I ran into that problem a few times at the beginning too.

    Thanks for your reply!

    I don't see why your stem mount would not work. As you suggest, the 90
    degree rotation shouldn't matter. You could try different locations
    temporarily such as your wrist, top of handlerbar etc. to see if this has
    any effect on the heart rate sensing problem. I'm stumped otherwise. You
    might try calling polar directly and asking for help.

    BobT

  5. BobT said:

    "Claus Assmann" <ca+sendmail(no-copies-please)@mine.informatik.uni-kiel.de>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    BobT said:

    The wired / wireless speed/cadence sensors, presence or absence or power
    sensor shouldn't affect pulse sensing. I assume that you must be using
    the
    special handlebar mount on the bike with the power system. Where are you
    locating the S720i on the other bike without the power system? Does the


    On the stem (using the default handlebar mount), so it's rotated by
    90 degrees (it's easier than mounting it on the handlebar due to
    the shift/brake cables). Could that be a problem? IMHO it shouldn't
    as runners wear the receiver on their wrist (right?), so it can be
    in any angle relative to the transmitter.

    Quoted message said:

    other bike have anything else electronic on it that might affect pulse
    sensing?


    No, nothing else.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm doing exactly what you are doing with the my Polar S720i on my two
    bikes
    without any heart rate sensing problems. My only problem has been
    keeping
    the S720i properly seated in the bracket on the bike with the power
    sensor.


    I ran into that problem a few times at the beginning too.

    Thanks for your reply!

    I don't see why your stem mount would not work. As you suggest, the 90
    degree rotation shouldn't matter.

    The orientation of the watch definitely has influence on the speed reading.
    If I put de HRM on my wrist the speed/cadence readings are all messed
    up. Don't remember if the HR was also messed up.

    Lou

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    Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)

  6. "Lou Holtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The orientation of the watch definitely has influence on the speed
    reading.
    If I put de HRM on my wrist the speed/cadence readings are all messed up.
    Don't remember if the HR was also messed up.

    I've had similar experience with the Polar 720i on my bike with the wireless
    cadence and speed sensors. With the watch on my wrist, if I sit up and take
    my hand off the bar to look at the watch, I sometimes don't get speed or
    cadence info. I have assumed that occurs because that move puts the
    receiver/watch too far away from the wireless transmitters. I think the
    polar manual says the maximum distance for the cadence transmitter is 80 cm
    and maximum distance for the speed transmitter is 50 cm. As one would
    expect, I have not seen problems with heart rate sensing with the receiver
    on my wrist. This is why I suggested trying the setup with the watch on his
    wrist or on top of bars just to see, if in his case, watch/receiver position
    had anything to do with the heart rate sensing problem.

    BobT

  7. BobT said:

    "Lou Holtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The orientation of the watch definitely has influence on the speed
    reading.
    If I put de HRM on my wrist the speed/cadence readings are all messed up.
    Don't remember if the HR was also messed up.

    I've had similar experience with the Polar 720i on my bike with the wireless
    cadence and speed sensors. With the watch on my wrist, if I sit up and take
    my hand off the bar to look at the watch, I sometimes don't get speed or
    cadence info. I have assumed that occurs because that move puts the
    receiver/watch too far away from the wireless transmitters.

    In my case it also occurs when I just turn my wrist to look at it and
    not putting the watch further from the sensor.

    I think the

    Quoted message said:

    polar manual says the maximum distance for the cadence transmitter is 80 cm
    and maximum distance for the speed transmitter is 50 cm. As one would
    expect, I have not seen problems with heart rate sensing with the receiver
    on my wrist. This is why I suggested trying the setup with the watch on his
    wrist or on top of bars just to see, if in his case, watch/receiver position
    had anything to do with the heart rate sensing problem.

    I agree.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu (http://www.nb.nu)

  8. BobT said:

    I've had similar experience with the Polar 720i on my bike with the wireless
    cadence and speed sensors. With the watch on my wrist, if I sit up and take
    my hand off the bar to look at the watch, I sometimes don't get speed or
    cadence info. I have assumed that occurs because that move puts the
    receiver/watch too far away from the wireless transmitters. I think the
    polar manual says the maximum distance for the cadence transmitter is 80 cm
    and maximum distance for the speed transmitter is 50 cm.

    I find the Polar 720i so erratic that I never trust it as a single
    instrument. I keep a standard Cateye computer on all my bikes and that
    way I know I'll have a perfect reading throughout the ride.

    You can increase the signal strength emitted from the sensors. Open up
    the sensor by taking it off the bike and removing two tiny screws
    you'll find in the fork hollow. Inside you'll find a standard
    electronic jumper that can connect two of the three prongs. From the
    factory it is shipped in the standard low-power position. Move the
    jumper over to get a bit more range (but less battery life) from your
    sensor and this will improve the situation, but not cure it.

    It isn't a perfect system.

    JB

  9. BobT said:

    I don't see why your stem mount would not work. As you suggest, the 90
    degree rotation shouldn't matter. You could try different locations

    It seems it does... Today I simply "tied" the receiver to the
    handlebar (it was a bit loose, but otherwise ok) and I didn't notice
    any wrong readings. I hope this wasn't just a coincidence.

    Thanks for everyones feedback!

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