Preventing the worst

call your doctor today.

dave

Ken Bessler said:

My best friend, Mike, had type 1 diabetes. One day he noticed he had a hangnail on his right big
toe. Despite treatment, 12 months later he had to have the toe amputated. He was really bad on his
diet & excercise - he would have bad insulin reactions almost everyday, requiring a visit by the
paramedics. He died 12/15/02 from an apparant insulin reaction.

Now I am a insulin dependant type 2. I take good care of myself with proper balanced low carb
nutrition & excercise. My average BG reading is 126, according to my meter. Before I saw a diet
specialist and started excercising, I weighed 300 lbs and was using massive amounts of humalog per
day (300u easy). Now, 9 months later, I weigh 220, have lost 8" from my belt line and am taking
less than 30 u of humalog per day. An insulin reaction is a rare event, despite my having
gastroparesis.

Anyways, enough background - on to the problem:

Yesterday I tore a hole in my right heel while trying to remove excess dead cells. It's not bad
but it did bleed for a minute and now it's painfull to walk on it. I'm scared that it won't heal
right and I might eventually lose my foot.

What can I do to ensure it heals properly? Should I go out and buy bandages and ointment?

Ken

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What can I do to ensure it heals properly? Should I go out and buy bandages and ointment?

See your Dr. ASAP! And from now on, don't mess with your feet. See a Podiatrist for that.

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"Ken Bessler" <[email hidden]>

Antibiotics, keeping in close contact with your doctor and of course watching those bg's. Infection
and antibiotics go together - always.

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My best friend, Mike, had type 1 diabetes. One day he noticed he had a hangnail on his right big
toe. Despite treatment, 12 months later he had to have the toe amputated. He was really bad on his
diet & excercise - he would have bad insulin reactions almost everyday, requiring a visit by the
paramedics. He died 12/15/02 from an apparant insulin reaction.

Now I am a insulin dependant type 2. I take good care of myself with proper balanced low carb
nutrition & excercise. My average BG reading is 126, according to my meter. Before I saw a diet
specialist and started excercising, I weighed 300 lbs and was using massive amounts of humalog per
day (300u easy). Now, 9 months later, I weigh 220, have lost 8" from my belt line and am taking
less than 30 u of humalog per day. An insulin reaction is a rare event, despite my having
gastroparesis.

Anyways, enough background - on to the problem:

Yesterday I tore a hole in my right heel while trying to remove excess dead cells. It's not bad
but it did bleed for a minute and now it's painfull to walk on it. I'm scared that it won't heal
right and I might eventually lose my foot.

What can I do to ensure it heals properly? Should I go out and buy bandages and ointment?

Keep it clean, keep your BG where it should be. There's not much more you CAN do apart from taking
your foot to the doc (which is a good thing to do), but if you do keep it clean and your BG's where
they should be, why would you have a problem?

I've torn holes big enough to shove three fingers in (my leg), stood on rusty nails more times that
I care to think about (I'm a bit of a "bare-footer"😉, had splinters from wood, steel, carbon fibre
and fibre-glass in my feet, but they're still "working as advertised" and in my notes at the
diabetic clinic there's a line which reads "Indulges in kitchen table surgery" referring to the fact
that I use a pair of electrical side cutters (usually used for cutting wire), a scalpel and a towel
to collect the blood when I trim my toe nails:-)

Sure our feet are at higher risk but that's down to running high blood sugars. If you DON'T run
high, you shouldn't have foot healing problems if you follow normal hygiene "rules, but..... "If in
doubt, don't hang about" Get your foot to the doc so HE can make an assessment.

Beav

You don't mention that you ap neuropathy but, as have several other posters, you will be served well
by visiting an MD, or Podiatrist (sp?) as soon as possible.

Without the intention of scaring you, a minor "whoop's Bobo" can quickly turn into serious problem.
And I'll speak clearly for the rest of the group, amputation is not a good thing.

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My best friend, Mike, had type 1 diabetes. One day he noticed he had a hangnail on his right big
toe. Despite treatment, 12 months later he had to have the toe amputated. He was really bad on his
diet & excercise - he would have bad insulin reactions almost everyday, requiring a visit by the
paramedics. He died 12/15/02 from an apparant insulin reaction.

Now I am a insulin dependant type 2. I take good care of myself with proper balanced low carb
nutrition & excercise. My average BG reading is 126, according to my meter. Before I saw a diet
specialist and started excercising, I weighed 300 lbs and was using massive amounts of humalog per
day (300u easy). Now, 9 months later, I weigh 220, have lost 8" from my belt line and am taking
less than 30 u of humalog per day. An insulin reaction is a rare event, despite my having
gastroparesis.

Anyways, enough background - on to the problem:

Yesterday I tore a hole in my right heel while trying to remove excess dead cells. It's not bad
but it did bleed for a minute and now it's painfull to walk on it. I'm scared that it won't heal
right and I might eventually lose my foot.

What can I do to ensure it heals properly? Should I go out and buy bandages and ointment?

Ken

Ken Bessler said:

he had a hangnail on his right big toe. Despite treatment, 12 months later he had to have the toe
amputated. He was really bad on his diet & excercise - he would have bad insulin reactions almost
everyday, requiring a visit by the paramedics. He died 12/15/02 from an apparant insulin reaction.

Now I am a insulin dependant type 2. I take good care of myself with proper balanced low carb
nutrition & excercise. My average BG reading is 126, according to my meter. Before I saw a diet
specialist and started excercising, I weighed 300 lbs and was using massive amounts of humalog per
day (300u easy). Now, 9 months later, I weigh 220, have lost 8" from my belt line and am taking
less than 30 u of humalog per day. An insulin reaction is a rare event, despite my having
gastroparesis.

Anyways, enough background - on to the problem:

Yesterday I tore a hole in my right heel while trying to remove excess dead cells. It's not bad but
it did bleed for a minute and now it's painfull to walk on it. I'm scared that it won't heal right
and I might eventually lose my foot.

What can I do to ensure it heals properly? Should I go out and buy bandages and ointment?

Ken

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call your doctor today.

dave

Don't just call your doctor. Go see the doctor. Even better! Go see a podiatrist. Don't wait! Put on
your pants and go now!!!

PJ

I agree with Dave. You cannot take a chance with it getting infected. I actually went to my GP to
have a splinter removed from my heel. (I couldn't reach it because it was in a weird spot.) When I
told him that I was embarrassed about going to him for a tiny little splinter, he told me that it is
always better for a diabetic to be proactive with any foot issue. Steph

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call your doctor today.

dave

Ken Bessler said:

My best friend, Mike, had type 1 diabetes. One day he noticed he had a hangnail on his right big
toe. Despite treatment, 12 months later he had to have the toe amputated. He was really bad on
his diet & excercise - he would have bad insulin reactions almost everyday, requiring a visit by
the paramedics. He died 12/15/02 from an apparant insulin reaction.

Now I am a insulin dependant type 2. I take good care of myself with proper balanced low carb
nutrition & excercise. My average BG reading is 126, according to my meter. Before I saw a diet
specialist and started excercising, I weighed 300 lbs and was using massive amounts of humalog
per day (300u easy). Now, 9 months later, I weigh 220, have lost 8" from my belt line and am
taking less than 30 u of humalog per day. An insulin reaction is a rare event, despite my having
gastroparesis.

Anyways, enough background - on to the problem:

Yesterday I tore a hole in my right heel while trying to remove excess dead cells. It's not bad
but it did bleed for a minute and now it's painfull to walk on it. I'm scared that it won't heal
right and I might eventually lose my foot.

What can I do to ensure it heals properly? Should I go out and buy bandages and ointment?

Ken

Call your doctor and ask for a referral to a wound specialist!

Bay Area Dave said:

call your doctor today.

dave

Ken Bessler said:

My best friend, Mike, had type 1 diabetes. One day he noticed he had a hangnail on his right big
toe. Despite treatment, 12

months

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later he had to have the toe amputated. He was really bad on his diet & excercise - he would have
bad insulin reactions almost everyday, requiring a visit by the paramedics. He died 12/15/02 from
an apparant insulin reaction.

Now I am a insulin dependant type 2. I take good care of myself with proper balanced low carb
nutrition & excercise. My average BG reading is 126, according to my meter. Before I saw a diet
specialist and started excercising, I weighed 300 lbs and was using massive amounts of humalog
per day (300u easy). Now, 9 months later, I weigh 220, have lost 8" from my belt line and am
taking less than 30 u of humalog per day. An insulin reaction is a rare event, despite my having
gastroparesis.

Anyways, enough background - on to the problem:

Yesterday I tore a hole in my right heel while trying to remove excess dead cells. It's not bad
but it did bleed for a minute and now it's painfull to walk on it. I'm scared that it won't heal

right

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and I might eventually lose my foot.

What can I do to ensure it heals properly? Should I go out and buy bandages and ointment?

Ken

"Beav" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Keep it clean,

BUT DON'T SOAK YOUR FOOT. Soaking can soften the skin and make it easier for the wound to grow.
Don't soak unless the doctor tells you to do it. PJ

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You don't mention that you ap neuropathy but, as have several other posters, you will be served
well by visiting an MD, or Podiatrist (sp?) as soon as possible.

Without the intention of scaring you, a minor "whoop's Bobo" can quickly turn into serious
problem. And I'll speak clearly for the rest of the group, amputation is not a good thing.

I'm trying to understand your statement but to keep it short, I don't have any neuropathy in my
feet - the only diabetes complication I have is gastroparesis. I just had an exam for neuropathy 3
months ago and passed with flying colors, except for some non-diabetic ulnar nerve compression in
my left hand.

I haven't gone to the Dr. yet as I am new in town and haven't established a new Dr. yet.

Anyways, I'm practicing full caution as to the wound - I've got neosporin on it and have it bandaged
and wrapped quite well. So far the healing process seems to be advancing very well (for a diabetic)
- the bleeding stopped and there has been only a little puss, causing the bandages to stick
(ouch!)...

Thanks to all for the advice. :-)

Ken

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"Beav" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Keep it clean,

BUT DON'T SOAK YOUR FOOT. Soaking can soften the skin and make it easier for the wound to grow.

I was brought up in the tradition of keeping a wound dry, but when my Ma had a leg wound, they
(there's always a "they" isn't there? :-), anyway, they put dressings on the wund which made it STOP
drying. I couldn't get me head round that for even one second (and neither could Ma) and the wound
didn't heal very well at all, until she decided to remove the dressing and "let the air get at it".
THEN it healed. So yeah, I'd go with your sentiment to not soak the foot, but only after it's been
ceaned thoroughly.

Beav

Beav said:

I was brought up in the tradition of keeping a wound dry, but when my Ma had a leg wound, they
(there's always a "they" isn't there? :-), anyway, they put dressings on the wund which made it
STOP drying. I couldn't get me head round that for even one second (and neither could Ma) and the
wound didn't heal very well at all, until she decided to remove the dressing and "let the air get
at it". THEN it healed. So yeah, I'd go with your sentiment to not soak the foot, but only after
it's been ceaned thoroughly.

I remember seeing something a little while ago that some studies had found that wounds heal better
when covered. I don't remember all of the details, but I think it's the new thing.
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K'neH'a'Iw said:

Beav said:

I was brought up in the tradition of keeping a wound dry, but when my Ma had a leg wound, they
(there's always a "they" isn't there? :-), anyway, they put dressings on the wund which made it
STOP drying. I couldn't get me head round that for even one second (and neither could Ma) and the
wound didn't heal very well at all, until she decided to remove the dressing and "let the air get
at it". THEN it healed. So yeah, I'd go with your sentiment to not soak the foot, but only after
it's been ceaned thoroughly.

I remember seeing something a little while ago that some studies had found that wounds heal better
when covered. I don't remember all of the details, but I think it's the new thing.

Basic Band-Aid experience demonstrates that. How much it's due to keeping debris out of the wind and
keeping the edges of the wound squeezed together, I'm not sure. But certainly an unprotected wound
will tend to s-t-r-e-t-c-h open more when moved....

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Beav said:

I was brought up in the tradition of keeping a wound dry, but when my Ma

had

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a leg wound, they (there's always a "they" isn't there? :-), anyway,

they

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put dressings on the wund which made it STOP drying. I couldn't get me

head

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round that for even one second (and neither could Ma) and the wound

didn't

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heal very well at all, until she decided to remove the dressing and "let

the

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air get at it". THEN it healed. So yeah, I'd go with your sentiment to

not

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soak the foot, but only after it's been ceaned thoroughly.

I remember seeing something a little while ago that some studies had found that wounds heal better
when covered. I don't remember all of the details, but I think it's the new thing.

The dressing the hospital used on Ma kept the wound wet and it just "sat", not getting ANY better.
If this is a new idea, I for one will file it with a lot of other new idea's.... in the bin:-)

Beav

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K'neH'a'Iw said:

Beav said:

I was brought up in the tradition of keeping a wound dry, but when my Ma had a leg wound, they
(there's always a "they" isn't there? :-), anyway,

they

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put dressings on the wund which made it STOP drying. I couldn't get me head round that for even
one second (and neither could Ma) and the wound didn't heal very well at all, until she decided
to remove the dressing and "let the air get at it". THEN it healed. So yeah, I'd go with your
sentiment to not soak the foot, but only after it's been ceaned thoroughly.

I remember seeing something a little while ago that some studies had found that wounds heal
better when covered. I don't remember all of the details, but I think it's the new thing.

Basic Band-Aid experience demonstrates that. How much it's due to keeping debris out of the wind
and keeping the edges of the wound squeezed together, I'm not sure. But certainly an unprotected
wound will tend to s-t-r-e-t-c-h open more when moved....

That'd be right for a n "axe" wound Nico, but what about those types of wound which are simply
"skinned" knees (as my Mum's wound was). nothing to stretch, but a lot to scab over. The hospital
were intent on not allowing a scab to form, but as I see things, if scabs aren't SUPPOSED to form,
they wouldn't do. Same thing with the "new and improved" treatment for blisters. I had some
EXCELLENT ones a few years ago and the doc at the A&E said "I'll just burst thos blisters", to which
I reply "Go ahead, and then watch when I

Obviously I didn't let him burst the blisters, although for or five DID burst themselves, and
strange to report, the ones that burst are the ones that produced the scars. Those that
"held" didn't.

All this "new and improved" [censored] IS [censored] as far as I'm concerned.

Beav

Beav ,

This is not a recommendation , but when I get an "overfilled" blister , I lance a teeny hole in it
to let some of the "water" out of it---usually they wont "burst" or tear until the underlying skin
is ready for exposure to air---sometimes I put a bandage on it---always I use a steral lance and
only enough to do the trick ( after gently washing area and drying )

tim....( remove the " 5 " to reply )

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Obviously I didn't let him burst the blisters, although for or five DID burst themselves, and
strange to report, the ones that burst are the ones that produced the scars. Those that
"held" didn't.

All this "new and improved" [censored] IS [censored] as far as I'm concerned.

Beav

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Beav ,

This is not a recommendation , but when I get an "overfilled" blister , I lance a teeny hole in it
to let some of the "water" out of it---usually they wont "burst" or tear until the underlying skin
is ready for exposure to air---sometimes I put a bandage on it---always I use a steral lance and
only enough to do the trick ( after gently washing area and drying )

I did whatever I had to do to keep the juice inside Tim. My idea was simple. That juice was there
for a reason, and on the occasions where I've popped blisters (I get a few now and again from
welding pops) there's ALWAYS a white dot where the blister was.

I've no idea what's IN the "juice", but I'm leaving it where it is if (when) I get another

Beav